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Sunday, Sep 30 2018

@ Haha yes!!

And that is so helpful to hear your experience! That really solidifies for me what I am thinking I should do right now. I am so happy for you that you were able to take that time and get into such an amazing school!

Also, you are so right, this extended year would be entirely necessary for me to get into the range of schools I am aiming to get into. I appreciate your insight!

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Sunday, Sep 30 2018

@ Thank you so much for that! Yes, I think that is an excellent idea to show them tangible, printed-out reasons for precisely why I am taking this stance. And it is kind of still undecided how much they will help with paying for law school, if at all. But I completely agree with you! And yes, I did move back in after I graduated in May, so I agree that I may have to move back out to make this happen. Thank you!!

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Sunday, Sep 30 2018

@ Wow yeah we really are in the same boat!! That is crazy! Thank you for sharing that insight. I really appreciate it. I of course would want to compromise with my parents if possible, but given my circumstances right now, I'm not sure if I will be able to because they would really push me to just go to the highest-ranked school I'd get into this cycle, which would not end well for me. But your advice is certainly helpful, so thanks so much!! And I wish you the best with the November test & Chicago!

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Wednesday, May 30 2018

I would love to be part of this as well! Please add me- thank you!

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Sunday, Sep 30 2018

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Seeking Advice on Handling Parental Pressures

If anyone has the time & ability to give me some insight/perspective/advice, I would truly so appreciate it!!!

Here is my situation: I graduated in May, planned to take one gap year, took the LSAT in September, and am now recognizing that I need far more time to study for the LSAT if I want to have a legitimate shot at my goal schools. I would like to attend a T14, so I am determined to score in the 170s. I was BRing around this score (but..my score would fluctuate quite a bit). Thus, I was not too surprised when I scored a 163 on the September test.

Basically, I am certain that if I took more time, I could score much higher, which would give me a good shot at the schools I am hoping to get into. So (partly since I am 21 and am personally in no urgent rush to start law school as soon as possible) I want to just take the time to study more for the LSAT and wait another year to apply to schools. However, my parents are very against this, and they think that November should be my last shot, and whatever score I get..that's the score I get. They honestly do not have many reasons for this, aside from just wanting me to get started with law school and not take any more time than necessary. I do not think they fully grasp the significance of everything from the LSAT score to the ranking of the law school one attends, but they are also not particularly amenable to me trying to explain it to them (they are both attorneys themselves, but honestly I do not think their experience was the same as it is today).

Has anyone has walked a road similar to this one before? Or anyone have any insight on how I should go about this? I am keenly aware that this is a highly personal situation that is very specific to my life, but I also believe that many law school applicants have had to have gone through this before, and I would really love to hear some perspectives on the matter. Do you have any advice on how I should go about this with my parents? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!!

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Thursday, Jun 28 2018

SO bummed I had to miss this. Is there any way for me to access a recording of it?

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Thursday, Oct 25 2018

Yay!!! Subscribed!

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elliegjohnson612
Sunday, Jun 24 2018

@ Oh that is so interesting and helpful! I have never heard that before! So I should use slashes? For example, "11/2016 -- 4/2017" and "5/2017 -- present"? Or what would you recommend?

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elliegjohnson612
Thursday, Aug 23 2018

This is so inspiring. I am so happy for you!!! congratulations! I honestly got the chills reading this & am so encouraged by this post. Thank you so much for sharing.

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elliegjohnson612
Friday, Sep 21 2018

Put your all into the LSAT, polish your personal statements and applications as much as possible, and submit your law school applications with the knowledge that you really gave it your best effort! And remember, admissions decisions do not define you & you can always apply again if you so choose!

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elliegjohnson612
Sunday, Oct 14 2018

This is insightful, motivating, and encouraging! Thank you for sharing!!

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elliegjohnson612
Friday, Oct 12 2018

Congratulations!! So exciting!!

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elliegjohnson612
Wednesday, Oct 10 2018

Haha that’s awesome! Yes, go team soybeans!!!

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elliegjohnson612
Tuesday, Oct 09 2018

Thank you so much!! I appreciate all your input!❤️ @

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elliegjohnson612
Tuesday, Oct 09 2018

@ Those are all incredibly helpful ideas & very practical tips. Thanks so very much!!!

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Tuesday, Oct 09 2018

I completely agree! Thank you!! @

Thanks so much, @ !! And yes, will do!!

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elliegjohnson612
Tuesday, Oct 09 2018

Yes! I’m on it!

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Tuesday, Oct 09 2018

Just wanted to follow up and thank you all for your super helpful input! I presented it to my parents, and it went really well - thanks to all of you. So I am now officially waiting another year to apply and postponing taking the LSAT again to the summer. And my parents are behind it. I feel so much relief and peace about this decision, and I know it is the correct thing for me to do at this point in my life. So thank you all so so much for everything!!! And I wish you all the best on each of your law school journeys:)

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elliegjohnson612
Wednesday, Oct 03 2018

Wow this is so helpful to know- thank you for posting this!

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elliegjohnson612
Tuesday, Oct 02 2018

That’s awesome!! Congrats!!

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Saturday, Apr 01 2017

elliegjohnson612

Work/internship experience

I am curious what is the relevance and weight that will be placed on work and internship experience for law school admissions and then also (and perhaps more importantly) once one gets into law school and needs to find a job once in law school & upon graduation. I currently have no legal experience but am not sure how important it is that I gain experience before entering law school -maybe not so much because I believe it could harm my chances of getting in as I am afraid it would harm my chances of getting a job in or after law school. I am in my junior year of undergrad and at this point desire to apply to law schools this fall and go straight to law school after graduation. According to my pre-law advisor at my undergrad university (UC Berkeley), law schools do not place as much weight on experience (as LSAT and GPA) in terms of admissions. However, I am unsure exactly how much it would affect me after getting into a law school. Does anyone have concrete advise on this issue?

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ Yes!! Great advice:) Thank you!

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ Thank you for sharing that! Those are very helpful tips, and I will be sure to print out some of those stats you mentioned. Also, yes, you honestly nailed it on the head with where they're coming from with their perspective on law school rankings. Thank you for your insight!!

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ Thank you for that! Yes, that is super true. I have not really explained that to them either. I will do that! Thanks so much. And wishing you the best with your applications and scholarship offers!

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ Thank you for sharing that! Yes, I believe that you are right -- my parents would not be thrilled with the results if I tried to apply with a lower score this cycle, so either way their reactions would not be ideal. And that is a helpful example. Yes, I would say I am in a similar position as that friend (since I have a 3.9 from a top public university) and rushing into my applications would be unwise. I really just need to take this time to get the score I need, and at this point I really am planning to wait another year and just figure out the best way to go about it with my parents:) So thank you for your insight! All of you have been so kind and helpful; I appreciate it SO much!!

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ Yes, very true. That reason, in addition to the reason of improving my LSAT score and getting into a better school, is definitely one of my top reasons for wanting to postpone. I agree that being one year older and having acquired that additional life experience and wisdom will be very beneficial for my law school career. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the matter! I appreciate it a lot.

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elliegjohnson612
Monday, Oct 01 2018

@ That is incredibly helpful advice. Thank you so much. I think you are completely right regarding providing them with a concrete plan, and I will definitely do that. Thank you!!

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