Would be great if we could add this to our analytics without needing to take the whole test.
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I'm studying full time so my schedule is very flexible! My average is a 157 and I'm hoping to score in the high 160s.
I'm in a very similar situation and have the same questions. I don't know if it's better to submit applications in December or retake the LSAT in January and apply afterwards. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I eliminated A on the basis of an assumption that they were not eating the proper food, not that they were unable to perform weight-bearing exercise because of a weightless environment. Sigh
Really hope the test isn’t canceled altogether 😔
This is extremely helpful!! Thank you so much!!
Thank you :)
Thank you!
I’m not seeing any, so just checking.
It's been a rough couple months, as I've received several rejections from other top schools, but luckily I was just accepted into my top choice. Thank you 7sage for providing such a supportive community. I can't imagine getting through this without you guys!
This is very encouraging! Thank you for sharing and congrats :)
Scores are out
I experienced a four-hour delay at my test center. I ended up leaving during the break because I realized my concentration level wasn’t the same after such a long delay. I reached out to LSAC regarding a make-up test or at least removing the canceled score from my file. They said that because I was exposed to the test, the canceled score would need to stay on record and I would not be able to make it up. They initially also denied my request for a refund over the phone, but I kept pushing and they ended up issuing one.
157 after in-person prep course. Starter or ultimate to get high 160s in 3 months studying full-time
Is access to the harder problem sets necessary to break into the 160s? Strongest section right now is LR (averaging -5). Thank you!
@ I like that rule! Thank you for sharing.
@ Yes, very helpful to remember there are some easy freebies that shouldn’t be questioned! Pick it and move on!
You only have to complete the writing section once. The option to complete it becomes available after your first time taking the LSAT. At that point, you can take it whenever you want. Just try to do it before you submit apps so there isn't a delay.
Has this happened to anyone? Will I have to retake it? THIS SUCKS.
I have the same problem. I tend to really overthink the easy questions, making them harder than they are. I’m still working on changing this, but I think what’s helped is taking a step back and remembering that there are easy questions and that those questions have obvious (or at least, more obvious) answers. No need to make it more complicated than it actually is.
@ I have a very similar experience! I worked in NYC after college for 2 years and got really homesick. I moved back home to LA in January and started working part-time in March, but quit in July to study full-time. I was planning to write an addendum explaining that I was studying during the gap period, but I’m worried that the time off/not working will hurt my application. Thoughts?
I have the same question. I’m also wondering if it’s okay to combine addendums/additional statements in apps that provide the option to upload only one additional document.
I think it’s a good idea. One of the admissions reps at Stanford called it a miss opportunity to not do the optional essays (aside from the diversity one, which depends on your circumstance).
#help I didn’t love any of the answer choices, but my issue with C is that it doesn’t specify that the creative solutions are effective ones. When I first read it, I thought hmmm, anyone can propose creative solutions. What matters is that the ones that are actually effective come from people with experience, while the creative solutions from people without experience are futile. C doesn’t seem to clearly make that distinction.
Absolutely love this! Definitely have to always keep fighting, which the LSAT makes really hard to do at times. Congrats and best of luck in law school :)
Thank you :) It actually is my number one bc of its location and community. I know I want to stay in CA (I grew up in LA and already spent enough time on the east coast after college when I worked in NYC for a few years haha). And I really prioritize community, which I've heard is amazing at Berkeley, especially for students of color. I applied to a bunch of schools for negotiation purposes, but I went into the process knowing that Berkeley was my top choice. I'm super grateful that it all worked out.
I have considered retaking solely for financial aid purposes, but I don't think it's worth the toll it might take on my mental health. I got really depressed while studying and am worried about going through that again. I figure that I'll either do big law to pay off loans or take advantage of Berkeley's LRAP program & public loan forgiveness.
I know that schools can now receive your scores without the writing sample, but I wonder if they won't actually make a decision until they have it. Has anyone been accepted this cycle before their LSAC writing sample was processed (since it can take up to a month)? Thanks!
It might depend on the school. I've heard some admissions reps say that they don't really bother looking at your old PS, unless you refer to it or something.
I went back and forth trying to decide if I should apply with a 157. I was really frustrated with my score because I was PT'ing in the mid 160s and had already spent 6 months studying full time. I ultimately decided to apply because 1) I thought the rest of my application was very strong and 2) I realized the worst thing that could happen was that I would have to reapply because I wasn't accepted anywhere or satisfied with my options. Well, I ended up getting into Berkeley Law and couldn't be happier! Please see below for my stats & cycle recap.
157 & 3.76, URM, first-generation student, 3 years public interest experience, went to Berkeley for undergrad
Acceptances: Berkeley (wrote a why Berkeley essay), Loyola
WL: Columbia, Duke, Vanderbilt, Emory, Davis
Rejections: Michigan, NYU, USC, UCLA, Northwestern, Virginia, UT Austin
I submitted all of my apps in December, with the exception of UCLA and Northwestern, which I submitted Feb 1. I also submitted a diversity statement and an LSAT addendum with my SAT scores, which were very low, arguing that standardized tests have not accurately predicted my academic ability.
What would I have done differently? I would have tried to get accommodations for the LSAT, which I hadn't even considered until multiple people suggested it after hearing about my testing experience, and I would have submitted supplemental essays (e.g. why X school) to all the other schools that accepted them. Offers from other schools are really important for financial aid negotiations.
For URMs, here are some programs that are extremely beneficial in terms of financial assistance and mentorship: UCLA Law Fellows, Sidley Scholars, and SEO Law Fellows (the last one is a summer internship program at a big law firm right before law school).
I hope this is helpful and encouraging for folks! :)
It will definitely change. I’ve been to a few admissions panels where deans at top schools made clear that they will definitely be looking at the writing portion now since it will be legible.
I’d say find a flexible job that allows you to work as little or as much as you want! That way you can prioritize studying when you want but also easily work when you need money or a break from studying. I’m substitute teaching, and I absolutely love it! I can decide the day of if I want to work or not and the pay can be anywhere from $20-$35 an hour.
I emailed lsaccomplaint@.org the night of the delay asking to be scheduled for the makeup test and they never responded. I called today and they initially just said no because I sat for the test, even though I left during the break and canceled my score. I started to explain that I didn't know that I could get a retake if I would've just left and that it seems unfair that this wasn't transparent and communicated to all test-takers at the testing center, only the ones who had their phones to call. I think she felt bad, so she told me to email my situation to lsacinfo@.org. I did, and they responded within an hour, denying my request for a retake but issuing me a refund. I'll take what I can get, even though this whole situation sucks.
Thank you for this thread. It's really helpful to know how much time people have spent studying so that you can set realistic expectations/know that it really depends on your individual circumstances. As I was planning my study schedule, I kept reading online that 6 months was about enough time to study, or even 3 months if you study full-time, which created a lot of false expectations on my end. It definitely has taken a lot longer, which I wish I would've known to mentally prepare myself and plan accordingly. My answer to that question now is that it's hard to really know how long it will take you and just know that it can take a VERY long time.
I agree with the previous comment. What really helped me in LR was knowing when to skip (make sure to flag the question when you skip so it’s easy to get back to). Give each question a sincere effort and flag the ones that give you trouble/are going to require more time so you can come back to them after you’ve gone through all the questions. Don’t get stuck spending 2 or 3 minutes on a question when you haven’t seen the whole section.
I think it's more beneficial to keep everything digital since it builds your comfort with the digital version. The only paper I use is scratch paper for games.
Curious if this is only for people whose test was canceled or if it's also for folks who experienced a signficant delay (like 4 hours).
I don't think it's necessary to know what kind of law you want to practice. In fact, I've heard admissions officers say that it can actually hurt your application if you claim to be passionate about something but lack relavant experience to support your claim.