Hey 7Sagers,
Here's the official October 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.
**Please keep all discussions of the October 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)
Rules:
✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆♀️
You can say things such as the following:
“I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?” “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”“I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?” ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅♂️
You CANNOT say things such as the following:
“Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)“The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)“What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)
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Man I could not figure out the shelving game setup for the life of me! I swear to god Pam and her shelving superiority will haunt me in my sleep.
Did anybody else really enjoy the bike passage? And also feel that the bikers were right? It's just outrageous that they should be cut off from the path while the walkers and equestrians are not.
I wish someone prepared me for the kind of stylus they provided. It worked somewhat fine (albeit not every time) for picking the right answer choice (basically tapping on the screen), but it failed me every time I tried to highlight or scroll down. I wasted too much time trying to get it to work. At the end of the test, we were told to keep it as a souvenir :wink: In addition, they only let us raise the tablets like two inches off the desk surface so I couldn't see anything because of the glare. Little that I knew, you can't change your seat after you get assigned to a specific seat number. These "minor" difficulties threw me completely off balance, and I think I am bound for the January LSAT now. Otherwise, 7sage digital tester is pretty much identical to the one LSAC has. So, I would recommend using it to practice instead of printing prep tests. There is absolutely no need to buy a watch. Digital LSAT has a timer.
Did anyone find this test very difficult?
The games threw me for a terrible loop. Shouldn’t have been that hard but very unfamiliar. I felt like I was crushing the first 2 lr’s. I’m hoping because lg is quite possibly 50% and so was rc.
They really wanted to test us on what do these two people disagree about didn't they? Is it confirmed that the LR 25 was experimental? That had to be the easiest section.
did anyone else find reading super difficult
I don't know if its just me but the last passage of RC on intellectual property was so hard for me to get the details - I feel like I just solved the questions based on vague impressions I had on each passages..
I felt like the Logic Games should be easy but for some reason I couldn’t figure out the games setup. Was anyone else thrown by the LG section?
@zacharytsmith26826 said:
They really wanted to test us on what do these two people disagree about didn't they? Is it confirmed that the LR 25 was experimental? That had to be the easiest section.
I have never seen so many. There were like 13 friggin' disagrees.
The real RC: was about jazz, volcanoes, cycling/camping, and intellectual property
The real LG: contained a game about tour guides for two South American countries and a game about shelving
@rogantrevor536 said:
Anyone know of any logic games that have been administered that are similar to the shelves game? I've never seen anything like that and I could not figure it out during the test...not sure how to prepare for something I've never encountered.
I've done every single game released by LSAC and I can confirm I have never before seen a game like the shelving game. However, it wasnt unusual in that the game is rule-driven and as long as you do not violate any rules then anything goes. So I solved the game by just trying out different possible game boards.
Did anyone find one of the LG questions about the Uruguay and Venezuela super hard?? The one where O& P were to be in the same month. It took me 5 minutes and I still ended up guessing. I wonder if i missed anything.
@zacariye149 I noticed that during the first three sections I was unable to eliminate answer choice E and sometimes unable to eliminate answer choice D, although I was able to select those answer choices if I wanted to. It was pretty annoying and I was a little distracted by the problem.
At the break I told the proctor and she called LSAC. They told her the only way to fix it was to start section 4 for everyone else and then switch my tablet with a new tablet. Oddly, no one else in my test center seemed to have this problem, although others remarked that highlighting was difficult. I was a bit reluctant to do this since I was worried it would disrupt my/others' concentration, but once I started section 4 I noticed that I was unable to eliminate ANY answer choices, so I requested that she switch my tablet with a different one. The switch took about 1 min and the extra time was added to the end of my section. I had already answered question 1 in that section and when I got the new tablet I saw it had saved my answer for question 1. I was able to pick up easily where I left off. I'm happy I ended up switching because the second tablet worked much better than the first one (it was easier to highlight and select/eliminate answer choices).
The proctor said that when she spoke to LSAC, it seemed like they were familiar with this problem, so it probably happens to a number of students. If you're having problems with the tablet I'd encourage you to speak with the proctor, and hopefully they can be as helpful as mine was in this case. The problem is that during the first three sections, there isn't an ideal opportunity to speak with the proctor and troubleshoot the problem at length. Hopefully they'll have figured out by the November test.
For all future test takers, I would really encourage practicing the digital format before sitting for the exam. I prepped with a combination of paper and purchased the more recent tests in digital format from 7sage and found them to be remarkably close to the actual testing experience. I didn't have the resources to purchase a tablet so I used my laptop, which prepared me well enough.
@zacariye149 said:
Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?
A girl in line told me she had difficulty with the stylus last time she took the lSAT and used her finger instead for highlighting. So I started out in RC trying to use my finger to highlight and it kept highlighting the line below what I wanted. I switched over to the stylus and found that much more precise to highlight, although it would sometimes still highlight more than what I actually wanted. At one point while answering a question the whole paragraph become highlighted. As a work around, I tried to make sure I set it to "erase" while answering questions.
Occasionally the tablet would skip ahead a couple questions and then I would notice the previous question had not been answered yet even though I never saw it.
Other than those small annoyances, I really enjoyed the digital test format. I found it much easier to focus on each question and preferred it to switching back and forth from scantron to test book. I also liked the visibility of the questions I had flagged so I could quickly go back and review them if/when I had time as opposed to flipping frantically through a test book.
@rope14u355 said:
The games threw me for a terrible loop. Shouldn’t have been that hard but very unfamiliar.
This was exactly how I felt! Very unfamiliar compared to all the games I’ve practiced and mastered.
Does anyone score release date still say "TBD" on LSAC website?
OK, guys. Let's take deep breaths today and remember that score day is NOT as stressful as test day. If it's good news, there will be MUCH celebration and joy, and if it's bad news, it's back to the drawing board. Either way, all we have to do is brace ourselves and open an e-mail...
@avelamb111553 I had the same thing @alexanderfusca315 ... the proctor did a wrong seating chart for a different class room and had to create a new seating chart and re-administer the previously assigned tablets. frustrating ha
@kristinachemareva547 said:
@zacharytsmith26826 said:
Did anybody else really enjoy the bike passage? And also feel that the bikers were right? It's just outrageous that they should be cut off from the path while the walkers and equestrians are not.
LOL. For some crazy reason, this was my favorite passage ever. :)
Me too! I enjoyed 3/4 of the passages (save the science one). Although I think the questions were hard for the intellectual property passage. It reminded me of the comparative IP passage where they talked about Chefs and Comedians... (------- This is when you know you've been doing this for too long.(/p)
@zacharytsmith26826 said:
Did anybody else really enjoy the bike passage? And also feel that the bikers were right? It's just outrageous that they should be cut off from the path while the walkers and equestrians are not.
LOL. For some crazy reason, this was my favorite passage ever. :)
@andrewxhyun315 said:
Does anyone know which LR was the experimental??
i had LR 1, 3, 4
2 was LG
and 5 was RC
I had that test, section 4 was experimental
Had the experimental RC first and thought it was SO HARD. Barely finished. The second RC (post-break) I thought was much easier. The volcano/glacier thing was kinda weird, and the IP comparison seemed a bit tougher than usual, but not AWFUL. I had time left over which I typical for RC for me.
I think I got 3/4 Logic Games down pretty well--probably should've attempted more of the third game but something just wasn't clicking for me. Either the other 3 were really easy or I really screwed them up.
LR was...LR? I've never been good at determining if an LR section is difficult or not. Finished both of them with some time to review.
But, RE: proctors, I was in a MASSIVE atrium/ballroom in a federal building and even with like 9 proctors I feel like they couldn't police things like tablet height. As a matter of fact, when the head proctor was reading the rules about that, he stopped, mumbled something like "that doesn't make sense," and told us we could use whatever angle we wanted. So I guess that's good? I found an angle that mostly reduced glare and turned the brightness up almost to max.
The scratch paper was fine; watermark was at the bottom instead of across the whole sheet like I'd read before. Stylus worked fine, but the pen was TRASH--glad I brought pencils to do the LG.
The weirdest thing for me will be actually being able to...do nothing and relax for at least a few weeks? Hopefully I'm done with this test forever tbh.
@zacariye149 said:
Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?
lol that thing was a JOKE. The stylus had no integrity so it makes it a royal pain to use. I just used my finger.
Logic games were tough for me. To be honest, LG isn't my best section, but I thought I had a better grip on it than that. I couldn't even figure out to draw most of my boards. Just didn't recognize the games. Definitely need to investigate this before Nov. I know some, if not most, didn't seem to have much trouble. Yikes!