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harrisonhartsough998
Tuesday, Jul 17 2018

@ said:

Curious as to why you would ED if, and let’s assume when, you make significant strides in your LSAT score. My curiosity issues from my understanding—potentially false—that you should not ED at schools if you’re at or above both 75ths.

Perhaps, in skimming, I didn’t catch your reasons.

TBH I'm assuming nothing re the LSAT score, because that 164 was after many, many PTs which were notably more successful. My average PT score was about a 168 and I really thought I was going to hit that on test day. Then I had one of those irregular logic games that I think messed me up. My typical scoring on the sections was about -1 to -2 on LG, -3 to -5 on LR, and -2 to -4 on RC. I think that day (although it was undisclosed) I missed 6 on the LG.

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harrisonhartsough998
Monday, Jul 09 2018

Definitely, definitely interested!

@ said:

I am working full time and trying to put together a new study plan. Just curious how many hours others are putting into studying weekly (in preparation for the November test)?

My first take I probably did 16 - 20 per week, depending on other commitments. It partly depends on your job, I get an hour lunch and I'm only required to work 35 hours/week. I'd encourage more folks to be realistic about studying, just pace yourself and plan time to do what you enjoy. Not seeing friends, family, and generally being reticent didn't actually help me that much when compared against the benefits of a few more hours of studying. Instead, picking a later test date seems more prudent.

I'm also figuring out how much I'll study for a (re)take. I think it'll be significantly less, because the skills are there, I just scored at the lower end of my possible score band due to a rogue game.

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harrisonhartsough998
Friday, Jul 06 2018

So, it sounds like spending the rest of the summer polishing my app and studying for a retake is in order so I can ED really quickly if my retake isn't that much better.

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harrisonhartsough998
Friday, Jul 06 2018

Thanks for all the comments!

@ and @ - I think of the two I'd probably like NU better. But the Berkeley GPA thing appeals to me if the worst happens and I score only nominally better (e.g. a 166). I think @.c lshopeful addressed that point really well.

And @ that's true, however, I'm not worried about cost of living. My spouse makes enough to cover both our living expenses, even if we lived in the Bay area. I also have some educational award money from the AmeriCorps year.

So as a general response, definitely appreciate the concerns about COL, I don't think that's as big of a factor for me, but I also need to know how bad it is before I go throwing all my eggs in one basket!

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harrisonhartsough998
Thursday, Jul 05 2018

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/how-many-test-takes-is-too-many-for-law-school/

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harrisonhartsough998
Thursday, Jul 05 2018

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Thanks for your comment. I get the stats focus - is there any reason to think that the soft factors I mentioned could make a difference at either, i.e. the connections at NW and possibly fitting the profile better at Berkeley? But yeah, stats are most of it.

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harrisonhartsough998
Thursday, Jul 05 2018

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Admittedly, I'm pretty unfamiliar with schools west of Chicago, beyond poking around about Berkeley, UCLA, and Irvine here, TLS, and LSN. Most of that circles around admissions rather than campus culture. I appreciate your take... I jokingly say that I'm so moderate that everyone can find something to hate. But I definitely take your point.

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Thursday, Jul 05 2018

harrisonhartsough998

Where to send an ED app? Northwestern or Berkeley.

Background:

I scored a 164 on the Feb. 2018 LSAT. This was the low end of my PTing range of 164 - 172. GPA of 3.93. Attended a higher-end state school. I work at a legal aid firm as a paralegal, before that I was an AmeriCorps member at the same firm. I have eclectic undergrad experience including winning a grant to research public defense in my state (and actually doing the research), also majoring in English Lit and concentrating on Caribbean literature, and being a very proficient (but mostly amateur) classical musician. I'm probably headed for public interest, making scholarship money important. My spouse and I are in a financially stable position, though.

Question:

My question is pretty specific; I already know I need to retake the LSAT. However, before retaking the LSAT (probably on the new November date) I'd like to craft a really good ED app and send it either to Berkeley or Northwestern due to their scholarship offerings for being accepted ED. Generally, it seems like ED and an early cycle app would increase my chances of getting in and I like both of these schools enough that I'd go to either. Any thoughts on which?

Pros of Berkeley: historically seem to weigh GPA more highly, might like an applicant with demonstrated experience, devotion to public interest, and interesting background. Once my spouse and I establish CA residency, the cost decreases, and there's the 60K scholarship split over the three years. That would probably be affordable for us.

Pros of Northwestern: personal connections including a supervisor who went there, a professor from undergrad who knows admissions counselors and professors and would provide a solid recommendation. The full-ride scholarship seems like a double-edged sword: yeah, it'd be great, but it seems unrealistic. My chances of EDing Northwestern probably depend a lot on retaking the LSAT. But maybe those personal connections would help?

Thanks in advance! I really appreciate it.

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