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Wednesday, Oct 30 2013

I'm personally trying to decide if it's possible to make notable gains in just over a months time.

I hit a 163 on the OCT 2013 LSAT. My anxiety was unreal of test day, even woke up with a migraine. My last 8 PT's were in the 165-172 range.... So I don't know what to do. I don't know how not to freak out of test day.

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Wednesday, Oct 30 2013

Really underperformed on the OCT LSAT. Ended up with a 163.

I did the worst on what is usually my best section, LR- Missing a total of 16 b/w the two sections. I couldn't believe it. On PT's I was averaging around 170+ with -5 b/w both LR's.

BR'd PT 70 Today... Missing only questions total. I made a lot of foolish mistakes on LR.

I will be retaking .

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Sunday, Sep 29 2013

K,

I don't think there's anything wrong with reviewing. Just avoid cramming. I.e. studying endless hours day and night. I don't see a problem with reviewing a few hours a day.

To go off of CJ's analogy... Fighters still train up until the day of the fight. They don't go all out the last week, but they certainly don't avoid training for an entire week before the fight.

I'm going to take my final pre test PT on Tuesday. Review it by Wednesday night. Then take it easy on Thursday and Friday.

I plan on taking the day before the test to do absolutely nothing.

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Saturday, Sep 28 2013

I work full time and lift 5 days a week. You stand corrected. Lifting is my escape. It helps control all of the negative side effects of intense lsat training.

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Friday, Sep 27 2013

It's experimental. It won't be outrageous, but perhaps bit of a stretch. Just look at the evolution of the lsat ... Nothing extreme . Even if it were , who cares- its not scored

Yes check in by 8:30, test around 9.,

If you've been prescribed ADHD medication, your physician should have given you instructions, and you should follow those. If you have not been prescribed such medication, I would advise you not to do so on test day unless you abuse it regularly are familiar with all of the pros/cons. For some its counterproductive.

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Saturday, Aug 24 2013

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First 170!

So, my recent PT score was 170 timed, 180BR! I'm pumped. Thanks 7Sage, everything is coming along nicely.

-0 LG

-1 RC

-4 LR

-5 LR

I missed 3 questions because of incorrect bubbling, though I circled the correct answer! Just a warning for others out there. Be careful bubbling.

I missed 2 because I ran out of time on the first LR and guessed on the last two. The lesson I learned from this, is not to vacillate on questions. There were a couple early on that I wasted time on. You really have to trust your intuition on some of the questions, and realize you don't have time to do a full diagram, etc... you just have to select an answer just because it feels right.

I missed one because I didn't know the definition of a word used. lol

In the end there was only one that I feel I "should've" gotten wrong as it took a long time on BR to solve.

All of the errors could have been avoided had I not misread details while being rushed. I felt like slapping myself on most of the errors I made.

Anyway, just a "high five" to JY. Thus far I've gone from a raw score in the 50's before 7sage, to a 66 midway through, 70's after the course, to hitting 89 on a 99point test after a few tests/BR.

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Thursday, May 23 2013

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Could be true questions

On could be true questions, I can't find the exact question, but I remember it having an answer choice that provided a Must be true answer, and one that provided a could be true answer.

The must be true was incorrect, the could be true was correct.

However, other could be true questions I've experienced had a correct answer that was Must be true.

Would someone please help me on this?

The only way for me to make sense of it is to assume that when both a must be true and also a could be true answer are provided, select the could be true. In cases where there is only a must be true, select it.

I'm confused because I've read that could be true covers 1-100% which would include must be true answers, yet it was incorrect provided that a less certain answer choice was present.

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Monday, Sep 23 2013

Best of luck, Kerri. You're going to kill the test in December.

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Monday, Sep 23 2013

For LR

1. For the first 4-6 weeks, work without timing yourself. The goal is quality.

2. For every question that you do during that time frame do the following.

A. Write down what type of question you’re being asked.

B. Write a paraphrase of the main conclusion of the argument.

C. Write down a flaw in the argument (there may be many; in that case, choose two).

D. Write down the answer to the question you’ve been asked. (For Flaw, Necessary and Sufficient assumption, weaken, strengthen, and evaluation questions, your answer from part (C) will suffice). For most of the questions , you will now be able simply to choose an answer choice that matches what you’ve written down.

E. If none of the answers match what you’ve written in down, identify with precision and with thought the reason that you will choose one answer, and write down that reasoning. Next, write down the reason/s that you are not choosing each of the other four choices . Now, you have a record to refer to after you check your answers against the key, and you can intelligently assess your progress.

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Monday, Sep 23 2013

Check out some of the TLS threads.... they have one by people who have scored 160+ . They also have 3 good articles by individuals that scored 180.

I have found full length tests to be more beneficial than drilling. After awhile you start seeing patterns. That's when I started seeing improvements on LR.

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Friday, Jun 14 2013

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Biconditionals

Perhaps I missed something as I do not remember a lesson on biconditionals (double arrows).

My understanding is that each term is both sufficient and necessary for the other.

Here are some indicators that I've noted:

A or B, but not both

A if, but only if B

A if and only if B

A when, only when B

If A, then B, vice versa

If A, then B, otherwise not

Except A, B

I have seen J.Y. mention "except" and "otherwise" in a video, but I am confused in regards to their usage as a biconditional indicator. In the past I've categorized "except" as a group 3 indicator, so that is causing issues in my thought processes.

Would someone elucidate these?

Also, list any other biconditions indicators/ tips that you've encountered.

Thanks,

JD

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hickmanjames2604
Thursday, Oct 10 2013

I'm waiting for my Oct score before I sell mine.

Also I've never had issued with mine . It shouldn't reset itself. On mine you have to stop it and then hit reset.

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hickmanjames2604
Wednesday, Oct 09 2013

K,

You never know. Maybe you aced it.

I feel the same as you . The more I think about it the more sick I feel.

You did help me ID which rc was experimental , though. Thanks for that. I also had one question on that passage (probably the same) that didn't seem to have an answer.

Anyway, good luck with your other studies. If we didn't kill it this time, we will on the next round we choose.

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Sunday, Oct 06 2013

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Post October LSAT

First of all, I hope you all enjoyed LSAT 70. I took it myself, and found it to be a decent test. I know we can't discuss specifics yet, but I wanted to open up the door for post test dialogue between us 7Sagers.

I will say the adrenaline was pumping. But as JY said, once I hit the questions it was just the usual routine and the nerves seemed to fade out. Fortunately, my testing center was great. The room temperature was freezing, but I prefer that over heat.

My overview of the test is as follows.

I was hoping for games or LR for the experimental, and what did I get, RC.

I do not know which one was experimental as they both seemed to be of the same difficulty. I will say that in the past, it has been my worst section, however, both of the sections seemed relatively easy. Which concerned me. That seems to be the consensus on the web right now. Those typically doing well on RC found it difficult, those having done poorly found it easy. Mind blowing. The questions seemed to be obvious at times with no trickery.

The LR was standard. My first LR section was easy- I thought at that time that it was experimental as they had some strange questions that I wasn't used to. The second LR section was kind of a beast. I made it through the whole thing, but I didn't have time to confirm any that I had doubts on.

The games section was easy, probably one of the easiest I've had in a long time.

Now we can enjoy the suspense of waiting for the results.

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Friday, Mar 06 2015

@ Short Thank you for your humbling response. You are correct to have revealed my flawed thinking. That mind set, in itself, is enough to prevent success. After having read all of these generous responses I am forced to admit that I deluded myself into thinking that I had done all that I could. For that I am thankful, because I know that with the PROPER approach there should be improvement, and that failure to improve is most likely my failing to approach it correctly. So, as many of you have said, I need to break down RC into smaller areas and develop fundamental skills to tackle the whole.

@ S thank you, again, for all of your advice. I do need to develop consistency. It shouldn't be a coin toss on test day. Many of the suggestions presented in this thread will help that, and I will implement and review them when I resume studying. And thanks for the Nietzche reference (big fan).

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Wednesday, Mar 04 2015

@ S Thank you for the RC recommendations. I'm so far from being able to succeed in your methods. I'm actually surprised I score as high as I do on RC, because it's not uncommon for me to read it and have no idea what the main point is... re-read it and still have no idea. I may just sign up for the economist, as you have suggested, and force myself to deconstruct the passages.

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Wednesday, Mar 04 2015

@ because the date of my Oct 2013 LSAT was early in Oct, I could take Oct 2015 LSAT. It's hard for me to give up, especially knowing that if I apply now with a 161, I could've done the same 2 years ago. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

@ Wang I don't want to accept it, but because I have been unable to improve it, I've accepted that I'm a below average reader. I've tried the method recommended here in the full course, I've paid for the velocity LSAT RC course, I've used the LSAT trainer, and I've read just about every RC recommendation out there. It's ruining me. It, for me, seems like the only section that I can't drill. Reviewing doesn't help me. I could retake the same RC a month later, and miss the same amount of questions.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

I'm really regretting not participating on here these last two times. I forgot how focused and motivated I was the first time because of the community.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

@ I agree. I haven't been partaking in the LSAT prep community and everyone "out there" tells me to accept the score and apply to lower schools. They don't understand.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

Unfortunately, I know Northwestern won't happen this year... I missed their application deadline. It was before the February release and I didn't want to waste the money applying without knowing my raw numbers would at least get my application a glance.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

My personal statement should be decent. I'm a first generation college student that worked and paid my way through undergrad. I've had a enough hardship to write a compelling statement. However, I'm trying not to resort to emotional appeals, though it is difficult.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

@ I will be sending out a few applications this week. Hopefully I can leverage some serious funding. Otherwise it's another year for me.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

@ In regards to family and friends, that's exactly how I've been feeling. If I take it again, I honestly don't want to tell anyone... I'm sick of feeling the disappointment, albeit self-imposed, that comes with revealing the same unsatisfactory score again and again.

If I didn't truly believe it was a curse before, I'm struggling not to now. But you have given solid advice, and so has everyone else. I should've been training to cope with my test day anxiety. I think it's my biggest enemy. There's really no reason I should score a 170-173 on my last three PT's and then fall to a 161. If/when I start studying again, I will definitely take all of this into consideration.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

I've already considered the transfer strategy and I'm not confident enough in my law school potential to risk it. So I'm going to avoid that, unless I get near a full ride scholarship at good, but not top, school, one that I'm willing to graduate from. Then I would try if the grades allowed.

Right now I'm seriously considering waiting until next year, but even though i know applying this late In the cycle with weak scores isn't ideal, I'm sick of delaying my future.

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hickmanjames2604
Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

Big thanks to all of you. I've been very depressed about this since December, even more so after my score was released last night. You've all been very encouraging. I'll probably retake in Oct 2015, ED at Northwestern, and go from there. I'll probably submit some last minute applications this cycle before I start studying, again. Not looking forward to giving the LSAT my soul again. Thanks again guys and gals.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

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You're right, though, I should've committed to every Saturday at the exact time, under the exact conditions, and on campus or in a similar classroom.

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Tuesday, Mar 03 2015

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Retake disaster/need help from a mod..

So I have now taken the LSAT 3 times, and I'm beyond frustrated. I took the LSAT for the first time OCT, 2013 after 6 months of study self-study and a 7Sage course. This first round I was studying at least 5 hours per day. At that time I was PT scoring in the high 160's and low 170's. However, I scored a 161. [RC -8, LG -1, LR 1&2 -16 (bombed LR)]

I decided to wait and reconsider law school. I decided to take the LSAT again December 2014, and after 3 months of less intensive studying (I felt I burnt out the first time) I was PTing again in the high 160's and low 170's. However, I scored a 161! I couldn't believe it. (RC -7, LG -9, LR 1&2 -10). I failed in games and knew it during the test. I neglected it as the easy section as I never had a problem with it.

So, I studied games intensively and retook it in February. Bit of a panic leading up to this test: Had a flat tire on my BMW (no spare) half way to the test center 40 miles away, thought I was going to miss the test, was able to get there 5 minutes late and still get in, and then someone got kicked out for cheating which caused a scene. However, I scored a 161!

How is that even possible three 161's?!

Should I give up? Literally give up on my dreams of going to a top law school? I can't improve my RC as it always lands around -7 to -10, I get my LR to around -2 or -3 per section while PTing, and get my LG to -0 while PTing. But I'm cursed with this 161.

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hickmanjames2604
Wednesday, Oct 02 2013

If I hit a 170+ Saturday, ill sell you mine .

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Tuesday, Oct 01 2013

^^^ same. lol

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