Many thanks again @. This was really helpful.

Thanks, @. So the Fire HD10 would allow me to download the 7Sage app and jump straight into taking PTs, right?

Oh wow, I’m mildly surprised to hear that both of those occurred! But the more I think about it maybe I shouldn’t be, haha. Thanks @.

To answer your question, I’d say it depends on how long you’ve been studying. If you’ve been grinding away for say the last 4-6 months, then you should give yourself some time - I’d say 10-14 days at this point of true, unconditional relaxation and then get back at it. For me, any longer than 2 weeks and I found it really hard to gain back the motivation - I got comfortable with having no study regimen very quickly. I also think it’s good to begin to get back into it a little bit before you receive your score back - if in the case that you don’t do as well as you’d hoped you’ll already be back in the groove/flow and it’ll be easier to brush off said underperformance much more easily. And then you’ll have about a month from that point (mid-late August) to re-immerse until the September exam. Wishing you the best!

Out of curiosity, did they still give you the tablet version of the exam? And was it the same exam that everyone else took?

One additional reason (C) is wrong: Saying a nerve sheath begins to disintegrate around 3 months does not say anything about how long it takes until it is fully disintegrated. Suppose the disintegration process is a 12 month process. Additionally, suppose that so long as there is some semblance of a nerve sheath - be it fully intact or just partially disintegrated - then that nerve tissue can still regenerate within the sheath (this was never ruled in the stimulus!). Then, given this, there is absolutely no reason whatever to think muscle function necessarily cannot be restored after 3 months despite the nerve not yet having regenerated successfully. A nerve could have as long as 15 months (in this particular hypothetical) to restore itself and have muscle function, given the 3 months + 12 months disintegration process. Thus, (C) is not strongly supported, especially compared to (D).

At the beginning of the video J.Y. says PSA questions will have a correct AC that is either a broad principle or a narrow principle that logically connects the premises to the conclusion (he uses heroin in public as an example at the beginning of the video). Have there ever been any instances (or could there be) of a PSA question whose ACs contain both a broad principle and a narrow principle, both of which share the same logical structure? If so, which one should I choose?

Ex. “No heroin use should allowed in public schools.” and “No drug use should be allowed in public spaces.”

@ Actually, to backtrack some on what I said, I sometimes feel fatigue after 3 sections as well, but it's only during the break where it sets in (ironically). Other times, I feel good until the 5th section. I think it just depends on external factors for me.

@ that's largely what I've been doing as a supplement to PTs since I finished the CC back in August, although I didn't know that's somewhat frowned upon. I've done 13 full PTs and 11 PTs (mostly in the 36-46 range) split up and spread out, usually 2 consecutive sections per day 3x per week on top of a full PT. Honestly, I do seem to benefit from it - both in that I recover more quickly and also continue to improve and learn - although it's tough to tell whether I'd get more benefit from PT'ing a second or third time each week instead.

@ Yeah, half of me takes that line of thought too. The other half worries that if I'm not 100% (or, say, 90%) then I'm not using valuable PTs (I'm thinking particularly of the most recent ones from 70+) as efficiently and resourcefully as I should be. The handful of times (3-4) I've scored in the 170's I seemed to have felt much more mentally fresh, although it's tough to pinpoint if that's what actually accounted for those scores.

Thanks for sharing this! Really interesting. The only thing I’d say (for other 7Sagers) is that their response to question #6 seems fairly dubious from their limited answer. If a 172 is “devalued” because it took 5 attempts to get it, but the school’s median is (say) 169 - or a 75th percentile of (say) 171 - and your GPA is of a similar competitive caliber, then that person’s chances/appeal almost certainly won’t be affected in any impactful manner (all else being equal).

The only instance where it could be devalued is if you’re being considered against other people with very similar numbers and application profile. Then maybe other 172s that scored that in one or two tries might look slightly more appealing at first blush (which is by no means clear that they are, in fact, once looking further into each applicant). But even in this instance it would have to be if you’re in their median range or below. If you’re above their 75th, then they won’t care about how many times it took each applicant with a 172 to attain that score (all else being equal). They’re either posturing/saving face to a prospective applicant, or their answer was far too context-independent. If I’m incorrect and neither is the case, then what that particular school is saying is they’re just resigned to not improving upon their ranking within the next couple cycles. Just my two cents.

Thank you!

Thanks @!

Right, I assumed as such. I wasn’t being very clear at the end there (and/or I chose a poor post title), sorry. What I meant to say was are there any indicator words or phrases that includes accident report (aside from the term itself)? For example, I take it that “citation,” “ticket,” “infraction,” or “violation” don’t qualify if only an accident report was written. Would it just say “traffic crash report” or would it be a less obvious term?

I apologize if it sounds like a finicky question. I’m just trying to limit my addenda and minimize extra materials to read in my applications.

Is your testing site typically a university or college of some kind? Prior to this year, the non-summer standard LSAT dates always fell on a Saturday and always at 8:30am. When I saw that they were offering multiple fall/winter/spring exams at 12:30pm on Mondays, I instantly wondered how my prior testing site (a law school at a university) was going to handle it since college classes would be going on during then. It turns out my curiosity was warranted: the closest testing site near me for the October, November, and March exams (all on a Monday @ 12:30pm) is 65 miles away.

Takeaway: LSAC masks their shortsighted decision-making and disregard for test takers as "convenience" and "increased accessibility."

Thank you, @!

Hey Alan, is there by chance a way you could change the highlighting/underlining mechanism to simply highlight/underline the entire word upon touching it and not the individual letters of the text? It’s becoming pretty frustrating when only half the word gets highlighted and I have to try highlighting the text again and using up precious seconds.

Aside from the LSAC’s program itself, TestMasters’ (ew) program is also designed that way, so I take it it’s possible to do.

Apologies if this has already been asked. The other comments are difficult to wade through at this volume. Thank you for working so hard!

I've heard that YHS isn't known to give much financial aid/tuition assistance out to their accepted applicants. Assuming what I've heard is correct (it's possible that I misunderstood), do you regret going with the (presumably) more costly program of HLS when other T14 schools were available to you? Or have the opportunities and connections you've established there essentially paid for themselves, so to speak?

Has LSAC clarified when we will find out if a test center is administering the exam digitally? I'm just curious whether we're going to find out shortly after the moment we walk into the test center or if we're informed a few days beforehand.

Also, I assume that for each test center all students for that test center will have the same format, correct? Surely the person next to me wouldn't have a tablet while I have the test in paper, right? That seems slightly absurd.

@ I hope this isn't too much of a bother, but I have two questions regarding this that may or may not be time-sensitive given that I'm planning to submit my apps next week. I took the the LSAT five times, three of which still included the handwritten writing sample, and two with the digital/typed sample.

1. My first LSAT attempt was the one I also gave the most amount of effort toward the writing—about five decent-sized paragraphs (handwritten) and, IMO, not half-bad. The other two handwritten attempts I was pretty blasé toward. On each, I wrote two modest paragraphs and called it a day. I wasn't flippant or glib, but I was fatigued and wanted to be done. If 1 out of my 3 attempts show real effort, will they hold those other two against me? Or is this _merely_ to get a sense/glimpse of my writing ability, and thus that first attempt is all they're seeking?

2. Because of that first attempt, I hadn't bothered attempting either of my digital writing samples that are available. Would it be wise to do a typed sample given all of this, or does it not matter?

@ said:

51, 2

52, 4

54, 4

60, 2

Excellent! By random chance these are all PTs I hadn't yet used or drilled, so this explains why I can't recall them. Thank you, @!

Just a shot in the dark, but is there any chance the LG explanation videos for PT 88 will be up before November 15th? I'm a former Ultimate user but was hoping to see the explanations for this particular games section for free if possible. No worries if not, obviously.

Thanks J.Y.!

@-4 That's what I'm hoping to figure out with this post haha.

@ would you happen to know?

Yes, the explanations just get uploaded after a few weeks following purchase. That's what happened with PTs 85 & 86.

@ Would you happen to know?

Hey @ thanks so much for such a thorough response and helpful suggestion! I really appreciate it :) I just wanted to follow-up and say that June 2019 was a disclosed exam, meaning all test takers already got back the full test and it's now available for public purchase, so it'll definitely be available on 7Sage pretty soon! The only question is how soon :)

Thanks for the pointer @-4. My hope is to get it digitally since I wanted to take both one of the newer PTs as well as take a PT digitally for the sake of adjustment to the tablet. Hopefully it's released within the next week or so!

If it makes you feel any better I'm very much in the same boat. Began studying at the beginning of May. My first post-curriculum PT at the end of July was a167 with my range being 165-169 through nine PTs. I ended up scoring a 157 (-5 RC, -11 LR, -9 LG, -6 LR) on the September exam and my confidence has been devastated the last few days. I don't attribute it to overconfidence nor test anxiety because I felt nervous but not unbearably so. Nor was it a slow start because my first section was my best. The best explanation I've come up with for myself is that I got swept up in the moment of the test day atmosphere and began abandoning "the fundamentals" that we're all taught. Though test day was all a complete blur I barely can remember, I'm really beginning to suspect I just instinctually reverted back what I had been doing back when I was taking my diagnostic.

Given that you had a BIG score drop (just like me), while also saying test conditions weren't the sole cause of it and that you didn't mention having a complete meltdown during the test, maybe the same thing happened to you? If so, it might just be a matter of taking more and more timed PTs with test day conditions (pre-recorded proctor, maybe an experimental 5th section) and just continuing to do that. It was eye opening how much test day really is a different environment compared to any practice test, and that it's hard to mimic. But nevertheless, to an extent you just have to convince (or deceive) yourself into thinking that it's just another practice test and that a bunch of other people are just taking the same PT with you. I hope that helps, and know you're seriously not alone!