Hello, I have posted a separate discussion post last night about my struggle with improving my score over the past 6 months, but I’m gearing this post more to materials that have helped people. After this amount of time I am familiar with the question types and patterns of subject matter that is on the exam and strategies on how to solve some of these questions. I am familiar with all of the popular and well-rated companies such as Powerscore and LSAT Demon, and I read the LSAT Trainer in full taking handwritten notes throughout the whole book. I have the LG Powerscore bible which I plan to get started on. With all of that said, have people found the curriculum for 7Sage effective in improving their score? I’m only about 5% in. What parts of 7Sage have helped you the most? I find the explanations to be helpful but I’m not sure that they actually help me improve my score. Does anyone recommend any materials for drilling problems such as the 5 lb. Manhattan Prep LSAT Drill book? Please let me know what your thoughts are on what specifically has helped you to improve your score; I don’t need anything introductory as again I am very familiar with the exam, as I’ve taken about 15 PT’s so far. Thank you! :)
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I just purchased Ellen’s book, however The LSAT Trainer recommends reading the question stem first. I have also found this to be much easier because I feel like I have a guide before reading the stimulus on what I’m looking for and how to perceive the information in the stimulus opposed to going in blindly and then reading the question stem.
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what are your br scores? do you feel like you have the conceptual understanding down?
in my opinion, 7sage does a really good job explaining the concepts behind logic.
obviously, practical application (i.e. how you apply your understanding) is important, but i think the theoretical understanding of the concepts really helped me with lr.
as for the game sections, well, i think many people here can agree that 7sage killed the games sections.
but everyone is different and learns differently. i think the key to improvement is: 1. accurate diagnosis (what are you struggling with? why?); 2. game plan (what's your plan? how are you going to plan/schedule your prep?); 3. execution (execute your plan).
then you circle back to 1. accurate diagnosis; and the cycle repeats.
My BR scores are an average of around 160, which at this point, if I could actually be scoring that I would be more than grateful. Sometimes I BR 20 points higher than my initial try at the PT, So I know that I do have a good general understanding. I really do think the timing is huge issue for me and getting anxiety during the timed section opposed to just relaxing and thinking logically. I was always a slower test taker than most I've noticed. Or perhaps I just need to learn more and spread out how often I take the PT's to actually have my score improve some. Thank you though, this was helpful and I like your strategy!
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Another vote for the Loophole book!!
I read the Powerscore LR book (love it!), but really struggled with my 'receptive mindset' v. a critical mindset. I read the Loophole book after that book and it helped. (I think it helps to read it after PS, because PS is more descriptive, overall - you won't have this problem if you do pick up a copy, since you have the Trainer's foundation. Not only (as mentioned above) did her translation section help me, almost instantly, but she helped me 'see' assumptions and start to be much more critical. [... Sometimes one book/source 'speaks' to us better than another. Sadly, I'm only familiar with the Trainer's LR section - I borrowed a copy, but only had it for the shortest of time to take notes. ... ]
Additionally, her answer choice strategies are very helpful. I wish she had a similar book available for RC!!
I do like 7sage (although it has been my most recent source, after the others), but I found more helpful info to tackle the LR section specifically from Powerscore (LR bible) and the Loophole. I've made a big effort, though, to really tie all of the sources of information that I read together, to almost compare-and-contrast them all (to get the most out of them all as a group). That helped me 'see' things in some of the books that I missed in the first read. I'm hoping it has strengthened my foundation ... my BR score 'tells' me it has, but we shall see :wink: .
I don't think 7Sage explains LR as much as some (me!) might need - where other sources are a handy supplement. I do like the 7sage RC approach also. Powerscore's approach, while easy to memorize the acronym, takes me much longer than 7sage's simpler method. I think in many ways, one could make an analogy between the way that the LG and RC sections are handled in Powerscore (in a more complicated, time-consuming approach), to 7sage (which strips them down and simplifies). I read and used the PS LG bible, and while working through their Training Type LG book, it took me so long (much over the allotted time) to finish a game - even after working the same type in each of those chapters. I think their approach made me more 'OCD' in my setup. It may also help that I can watch video on 7sage and watch him diagram a game - that's not an option while reading the PS book.
The PS LG book (as does the PS RC book to a MUCH lesser extend), do both have benefits in describing the question types and the LG book explains the rare game types more than 7sage does (7sage almost ignores them, outside of video explanations)..
Good luck in your studies and I wish you that light-bulb moment for your best score!!
Thank you so much, this was so helpful! I am going to go through the LG bible, as I've heard that logic games is typically the easiest to improve on, however I think in order for me to excel in the games, I think it would be really good for a basic understanding of all games and all question types and how to approach them. I plan to get through the entire 7Sage curriculum as well, because I've heard great things about it, and i am a big fan of the explanation videos of the games.
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Ellen Cassidy's The Loophole in LSAT Logical Reasoning is also very good, especially her translation method. It helped me tremendously for hard to understand sentences. She's also very funny and adds humor like JY which is a nice plus. It's on sale at amazon right now as I'm writing this if anyone was thinking of making the purchase.
I just made my purchase as I've seen all around great reviews and success. Thank you!
So after a realization of mine, I've realized that it just simply won't be feasible for me to apply to law school for the Fall 2021 cycle. This exam has been such a challenge for me, and after 6 months I have seen little to no improvement in my score, scoring from 147-149 with little to no improvement and barely breaking 150. I have had 14 hours of private tutoring, read "The LSAT Trainer" in full taking notes, and have taken about 15 PT's so far. I feel that I have made progress, because I do of course recognize the patterns of the questions and the material overall at this point, but I just get so thrown off by the timed conditions and don't perform nearly as well as I would with more time. I feel like the progress that I have made is all in my head and is not reflecting my score which is frustrating. This exam has really humbled me in a sense and had me question my own capabilities. I did take the November LSAT Flex but I truthfully do not even want to see my score. I don't want to settle with an application that I am not happy with. Also not to mention but this exam has consumed me to the point that I was unable to focus on any other part of my application anyway, so i know it is for the best to wait. Can anyone else relate or has anyone else experienced this? Let me know in the comments, thanks!
I get where you're coming from. I am working full time 9 - 5 Monday - Friday and then I study evenings and I feel a lot of pressure. My job is already mentally draining but working out + meditating + eating healthy really helps to improve things. How I see it is you cannot expect your mind to work how its supposed to without taking care of your body, and doing things you enjoy throughout the day. When it comes to the LSAT, while i am aiming to reach a specific score, I am going to adjust if I don't reach that score at my goal time and I am going to adjust. The pressure on yourself only makes things worse; its all about balance.
I happen to work for an attorney who graduated from my absolute dream law school. I have a low GPA (for their standards) so i am postponing my LSAT cycle another application cycle so I can have a high LSAT score to apply with. My GPA is in the 25th percentile of applicants they accept according to their most recent 509 report and my LSAT score is just under their 25th percentile. Since he is alumni of the school and a very prominent attorney in the state (public sector), I am wondering if this would have any effect on my application and if law schools take this into consideration to make me a more competitive candidate? I tried looking into this online but couldn’t find much. This law school is very competitive, in the Top 30 in the US... about a 20% acceptance rate. I want to be a competitive candidate as much as I can. Any information would be helpful. Thank you!
After watching this explanation I still cannot piece together why B was incorrect. David acknowledged the beneficial effects of research, so how could he be ignoring any part of Carla's statement? I can see why A is correct, but still cannot 100% see why B was incorrect. It was really tough even during BR to change my answer from B. #help
Hey everyone, I just wanted to share my experience with my first time taking the LSAT to give people some hope given my situation. I have been studying for the exam consistently since June, but it has been a bit of a challenge trying to balance everything considering that I work full time. I have been thru tutoring, the LSAT Trainer, 15 PT’s, and now I’m reading thru the Powerscore LG Bible and Ellen’s Loophole to LR along with the 7Sage Curriculum. I have felt so discouraged because I have barely ever broken 150 on a PT, Consistently scoring in the high 140’s. I was expecting to see around the same score on the November LSAT-Flex, and I checked my score to see a 154 for my first time ever taking the LSAT. For context, the highest I have ever scored was a 151 on a PT. I never thought this would be possible! It may not seem like that much of an accomplishment to some but for me it is giving me the hope to keep going to increase my score to the mid-160’s. I was losing hope for a little while, but to see that score really gave me the confidence boost to keep going!
Hey there, I have been scoring in the high 140’s for 6 months (rough because I work full time even after studying consistently) and I pulled a 154 on the November LSAT which is an accomplishment for me considering I have never scored that high on a PT before. I don’t plan on stopping studying but I am glad to at least have the score on my transcript... I am also aiming for the mid 160’s for the fall of 2022 application cycle. I would be glad to BR with people who are in a similar situation!
Hello I am at about the same stage and I have been studying for a few months -- definitely interested. My email is JessicaColon2016@.edu.