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PT139.S1.Q20
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Thursday, May 31 2018

I wonder it there are other gaps like "we dont know if aspirin has some side effect that off set the advantages"?

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PT139.S3.P3.Q15
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Thursday, May 31 2018

Don't quite understand why Q15, choice A "The necessary elimination of software pattern" is wrong...I feel that it is the main point of passage B.

By the way, what is main point?

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PT139.S4.Q8
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Wednesday, May 30 2018

I feel that "usually" is not where D got wrong.

If we change C to "There are some people who are not incompetent to practice particular specialty complete the evaluation program of the specialty", it is still necessary.

Where D (and E) are seriously wrong is that, they equal "6-10 years medical training beyond a university degree" to "complete the evaluation program of the specialty".

You may not become competent in your medical specialty if your spend 6-10 years by just hanging around in a hospital for nothing. And that's not our medical education system's problem.

So I think D is too strong.

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PT139.S4.Q19
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Tuesday, May 29 2018

I think "grand" may not be the key issue.

Average payoff (AP) of a lottery=praise/tickets sold

cost (C) of the tickets=...well, the price you paid for the ticket.

So AP<C means this investment has a negative value. This calculation already takes the odds into account.

The argument is reasoning by analogy, so we are looking for the aspect that the analogy fails apart. E gives that. Often, I found that in these kind of question, we are looking for a related aspect that not mentioned in the stimulus.

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PT139.S4.Q7
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Tuesday, May 29 2018

I think there are at least 2 logical weakness in this argument. 1, survey issue. The survey might be a misleading one. 2, over generalization. Draw a conclusion from what is true of a single novel to all novels. Have to stay open to all possibilities.

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PT119.S2.Q14
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Monday, May 28 2018

I am kind of lost here. Is appealing to authority while telling his don't so is a person's "character"? I thought it is just a self-contradict behavior.

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PT142.S2.Q14
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Monday, Aug 28 2017

I don't understand that, for C, why we need to understand that what are those "early life form". I think all we need to know is that there is an alternative cause of those marks. Am I wrong?

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Sunday, May 27 2018

Thx for the post!

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PT112.S3.Q14
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Friday, May 25 2018

I think the key here is not that B is way too strong. C used "most", which is also strong. I think, to add difficulty, the LSAT writers did this intentionally. They know people will be wondering between B and C, and will try to solve problem by eliminating the one that is "too strong" under time pressure. So they make them both look strong.

The key might be that, the conclusion is a comparison. Enhancing the facility in operating machine is something can be off set by other advantages (such as strong in literature), but expertise in tech that is required in job market is not something that can be off set by others. B did help in answering "why tech majors are not good in job market", but it doesn't answer "why tech majors are not winning in comparison with literature majors".

I find that in some strengthen/weaken questions, the right answers are some "other consideration" that influence the conclusion, but are irrelevant to premise. Consider this weaken question:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-06/

This phenomenon is also common in "shield" type of NA question. The answers are something that is not talked in the stimulus.

In these case, can we say that, we are not strengthen/weaken the support that premise giving to conclusion, but strengthen/weaken the conclusion independently?

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PT148.S1.Q5
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Wednesday, Apr 25 2018

I chose the right answer, but find D is super attractive. I made the right call to move on in the test (I smell that it is a trap answer and A is a cookie-cuter right answer), but now I am still wondering about D.

I understand that D is not necessary, my question is why lt looks so attractive to me comparing with other trap answers & how LSAT writers come up with this type of trap answer...

These questions may sounds unnecessary, but I don believe asking them can help me better understand the core of LSAT.

Looking forward hearing any thought about them.

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PT111.S4.Q16
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Thursday, May 24 2018

I don't get the JY's explains about D...Is he saying that D might not happen? But why does that matter?

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Wednesday, May 23 2018

Based on what you've stated above, I recommend that you try doing a series of argument-part drills. >

Both of you recommend argument part questions. And I think method questions will also help. I revisited JY's "How to approach method of reasoning questions" and he mentioned that those questions are very important because they trend to have the most complex reasoning structures. Will drill both of them.

As you state above, you often neglect to circle questions the questions that you are getting wrong. This might have something to do with speed - the faster you go the more likely you are to fall in to a trap.>

But I am still not quick enough to have a full 2nd round...

Thank for replying! @

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Wednesday, May 23 2018

As for your issue with argument part type questions, take questions you've already done before and make them into an argument part question. Choose a random sentence from the stimulus and describe the role in the argument. Try not to be superficial and go beyond stating that it's premise or conclusion. Go into the details and try to expand your vocabulary use that way. See how many different ways you can describe the role of a sentence. Do this with 4 or 5 questions everyday and see if that helps you become more fluent in it. You can do this with any question type, weaken, strengthening, sufficient assumption, etc.>

It 's such a good idea! Will try.

I think a big issue is that I am not familiar with reading for structure. And for those curve-breaker questions, there are trap answers that sounds relative but actually not addressing the gap. So now I am drilling LR questions and ask myself to identify every question's structure. But for those easy question, I can get right even if I don't have a firm catch of the reasoning structure. And because I am not fluent in identifying reasoning structures, I actually slow down myself in doing easy questions by this seemingly overthinking process.

Also, have you done any untimed LR drills? If not, try it and see how that affects your score and whether you still more over-confidence errors. Is so, what are the results like?>

Yes I have done a lot of untimed drill. I used Cambridge package of LR from PT 1-20 and 21- 40 for drill. I have also finished 7sage's LR problem sets. Average speaking, I get 1 error out of every 20-30 questions. But I remember a lot of them and it is untimed. I don't think I'm much slower than I was during timed sections, but obviously I don't suffer from time pressure when it is untimed.

Thanks for replying! @

I just finished PT 47 and got -10 in section 3, LR. -3 on the other LR section. Having study for LSAT for a year.

It is simply so discouraging that I still get -10 in an LR section after studying for a year and ton of drill. Especially that LR is the section that I spent most of my energy on, because it has 2 sections in the exam and it is almost impossible for me to get 170+ with -3/-4 per section. (-0 in LG but not strong in RC)

-10 is not normal performance for me. Most common performance for me is around -4/-5/ per section. But, in a set of PT, I often have a good LR section (~-3) and a bad one (~-8). Sometimes I do pretty well when I thought I was not in good mood (e.g. feeling sleepy at night), and sometimes I do pretty bad when I thought I was in good shape. I don't quite understand what my performance is telling.

For timing, I finish a 26-qiestion LR section for 30-35min (yes my speed also fluctuate). I always try to apply "low-hang coconut" rule, but I never finished quick enough to have a full 2nd round, and I still feel stressed on the 2nd round. Plus, most of my errors hide in the questions that I did not circled.

For the questions I got wrong, I can recognize the error of 90%+ of them pretty quick and without watching explain videos. I think the problem is not that my logic is weak, but my mindset/approach to the questions is problematic. As to question type, I do worse in argument-type questions, and better in RRE/Disagree/labeling questions.

I think I am on a changing in my understanding of argument-type questions. I used to seriously read every single word in the questions stimulus, try to understand the topic. But a week ago I start to realize that what really matter is the relationship between P & C. It's all about logic reasoning structure. But I haven't convert this understanding into a test strategy. Should I go on PTs or should I do some drill? (for the question from PT 40 or earlier, I am so familiar with them that I almost remember them...) Would love to hear some advices from somebody that have gone though the process.

Thanks a lot in advance!! :)

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PT105.S2.Q22
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Saturday, Oct 21 2017

Can I say that this argument is "circular contradicting"?

criminal actions, like all actions, are not responsible for crimes→it is environment that responsible→law-abiding majority's action create such environment→some actions is responsible

Please point out if I am wrong. Thanks!

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PT111.S1.Q8
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Tuesday, Mar 20 2018

I thought "harmed by diseases"="get ill"...

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PT147.S1.Q7
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Friday, Aug 17 2018

I thought the first sentence is C.

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Thursday, Jun 14 2018

Go China!

Well...Never mind.

I am a Messi fan, so I support Argentina.

I would say Group D is a very dangerous. Argentina have some superstars (and a lot of Messi fans) but Croatia have a more balanced team. And Iceland... we know what they can do from lsat UEFA Euro.

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PT147.S4.Q14
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Monday, May 14 2018

If C says "felt" instead of "displayed", does it strengthen the argument?

I think yes, because then C become a "control group". But I would say D is still way better, because it explain the working mechanism of this sound-changing thing, which establish the causal relationship, and this is stronger than merely adding an "control group".

Thoughts?

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Wednesday, Sep 13 2017

@ Just checked the date, it is changed back. Well, not too bat.

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Wednesday, Sep 13 2017

@ Ugh...I just saw the day is changed back to 17th. But the location is really changed. You make me want to postpone as well :neutral:

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Wednesday, Sep 13 2017

I am with you! will take Sept one in this week and also registered for Dec.

Just realized that LSAC changed my Sept. LSAT test date and location. My new location is Kwun Tong Government Secondary School. And the new date is Sept. 16th, which is 1 day earlier than the original date. Is this an error or a real change? Have to rebook the hotel. However, I haven't receive any email notice about this change from LSAC.

Anyone same as me?

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Friday, Oct 13 2017

I am about to start to work for one of the big 4 in China. My first concern after reading this is that, the busy season is coming... how do you balance the test preparation and work?

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PT147.S4.Q12
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Saturday, May 12 2018

I feel that E is a flaw for almost all wrong arguments in LSAT...

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PT106.S2.Q18
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Monday, Sep 11 2017

Actually I think this one is a cookie cutter flaw. The 3rd question in the set is harder for me. Trying to get familiar with all of types of flaw.

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PT138.S4.Q22
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Saturday, Nov 11 2017

I really don't get why language is innate(which means 100% occur in every society) → money occurs in every society.

It says that money's university is matched by language, but it could be that 90% of the society have money and 100% have language, so all money is matched by language while not all society have money.

Please point out where I got wrong.

Hi all,

I just finished the first reading section "introduction on reading comprehension" in CC. I also watched @"nicole.hopkins" video about her RC notation strategy. Both inspire me a lot about how to approach RC.

Right now I finish reading a passage in 3.5-4 min, but I spend way too much time on answering questions. I can spend between 8-12min on questions! Passages about art review are especially hard for me. And the timing is a big issue. With in 35min I can only finish 3 passages, with average -1 per passage.

I realize that I spend time trying to prove a wrong choice is wrong from the passage, while it is never mentioned. I also find myself spend a lot of time on comparing the rest of the answers after eliminating. I look at one choice, feeling that there is a tiny part I don't like, but I can give reasons for why I can stand it, and repeatedly do the same thing to another choice. I am trying to switch my method/mindset, and I would love to know how you approach the questions and choose the answer confidently.

A lot of high scorers suggest that we should read for reasoning structure. It sounds like making a lot of sense to me, but I am not very clear about how to apply it. And I don't feel that simply asking "what's the main idea of the paragraph" can't ensure me catch the structure. Actually, sometimes I feel interrupted by these questions. I mechanically ask myself about MP simply because I am trying to follow JY's method. Also, I find that not all "transaction/switch" of the meaning happen between the paragraphs. There can be more than one level of meaning within a single paragraph. How does the reading process look like when you are reading for structure? I am so curious.

I am also trying Nicole's notation strategy, and I think it can be very helpful in locating details asked in questions. But I also find that I am not very used to the strategy, and by taking notes I am slowing down my reading speed. I keep on asking "should I circle/box this?" And I don't find that making notation helps in reading for structure. I suppose it should, is it? I will keep on practicing, maybe modify some of the notation strategy, and I would love to know if anyone also take note while you read, and any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks a lot in advance! :)

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Tuesday, Aug 08 2017

ji330

Anxiety before start PT

Hi 7sagers,

I am coming back for help again. This time is about anxiety.

I finished the CC and did most problem sets of LR/LG, a few of RC. So I think it is a good time to start timed sections/PT. I am just quiet anxious about it.

One of the reasons is I am kind of worried to see that I am still far from my goal (170+) in the timed tests. If I get a really low score, I might start to question whether I am in the right path/whether the last 2 month study really make any improvement at all. I know it is wrong to think this way, but I am still quite nervous. And I guess some of you might also went though some anxiety when you about to take PTs. How did you overcome it?

Another reason for why I am nervous might be that I am feeling tired and suffering from insomnia. I began study full time for LSAT in mid May, so it is about 3 months. Now I fall asleep around 3am, and weak up around 11am. The problem is I don't feel recharged after I week up. This started to bother me shortly after I start to study for LSAT. I can still do problem sets with the bad feeling, and I can still see the improvement. But I think if I want to take PT I need better mental status. I know some LSAT takers also suffer from insomnia. Love to hear any advice from people who have gone though this progress.

Thanks a lot in advance! :)

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Thursday, Jun 08 2017

ji330

exhausted for studying

Hi everyone,

I am going to take LSAT on June 25th (I am in Asia). But right now I am exhausted for studying. :( So I am looking for advises here.

I have total 40 days (full time study) for June LSAT. I finished all my final exams and fly back to home on May 15th. This is short and stressed. Before this around, I also studied in the winter break (full time) for a month (I thought I could take Feb test, naively), mainly spent on timed PTs (what a bad idea). I barely touched LSAT during the spring semester. I haven't taken real test yet, and I plan to apply this fall.

I drilled on LR and RC and I feel improvement on LR, a little on RC. I would like to drill more and I have barely drilled game yet, but I know I have to driving into PTs now. It is already too late.

I still want to take this June test, at least get some feeling of the real test. If the Sept test is my first test, I am afraid that would be too much pressure on that one. I am thinking if I should stop drilling and start to take PTs. I feel I am not ready, but I know it is already late to start. I am also worried that I could used too many fresh PTs but I am very likely taking Sept. test.

BTW English is not my first language. This adds difficulty, but I think my language is roughly OK for LSAT.

What do you think? Should I driving into the PTs right now? What should I do for June, and what should I prepare for Spet? What is the reasonable total study period range for a 170+ student?

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Monday, Nov 06 2017

ji330

Mis-read in LR - how to avoid

I just finished PT 73 and got 6 wrong in the 26-question LR section. I had about 5 min left after I finished the first round and circled 4 questions (answered but wanted to double check). I checked them all with the time left. However, none of the circled questions were wrong. I re-read the wrong questions without checking the videos and easily find where goes wrong: I mis-read a lot and moved on without checking all answers.

How do you avoid mis-reading, particularly in LR?

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