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Bumping @ 's question: are people taking tomorrow or later this week taking a diff test?

Best of luck to everyone taking today!!! :)

PowerScore's podcast of the previous flex test stated that LSAC has been changing the test incrementally in waves. The people taking the afternoon test today could have the same LR LG but different RC section than the people that took it in the morning, but usually by the next day the test is totally different.

I would always recommend being an active learner. I would definitely recommend, first learn how to do the question type and maybe watch a couple of JY's explanation on some questions, but once you feel you have a decent footing, try the questions yourself. I would also recommend writing/typing out your thought process while you do these questions and then seeing how it matches with JYs analysis. Why did you get the question wrong? Why was it that A was so attractive to you when D was the right answer? Where in your process are you making mistakes? What does JY do and how does he approach the stimulus and answer? This is something I wish I took on earlier in my studies and I think it will really help you in your process. Good luck!

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I'm in the same boat as you, Harvey. Let's do this together.

-Mike Ross wannabe

I don't like it but I guess I'll be Louis here. I'm also in the same boat and will definitely try this method out! RC is going to get LITT Up.

Hey! I would definitely recommend @! He's really helped me get over a lot of the LR mistakes I make under time and also with my overall test taking strategy. I especially appreciate that he gives it to me straight and doesn't try to sugar coat any of the mistakes I'm making. Check him out!

Hey congratulations on the high BR score! I think the people above have some great points that you should implement! I also struggled a lot (and still do) with a gap in my BR and Timed score. To be able to do all that we are supposed to do under timed pressure is what makes the LSAT the beast that it is.

If you're consistently BRing in the 170s, it doesn't seem like its a foundational problem but just a pressure issue. The biggest thing is to drill and see what you're not doing while under time pressure. Are you taking a long time with finding the premise and conclusion? Is it taking some time for you to prephrase? Are you flip-flopping in-between answer choices? Speed will come with consistent drilling, but make sure to be critical in your analysis. Also, not only timing issues but take a look at what you're doing with those 20 questions you do have time for. Only doing 20 questions is not a problem at all because if you're getting those 20 correct, then you're only -5/-6 for LR. So see what mistakes in the questions you're getting wrong.

Also, spending 4 minutes to read an RC passage is not a bad thing at all. I average 4:30 on passages usually and thats because I try to understand as much as I can upfront and not try to spend too much time on the questions themselves.

For LG, your timing could be you're either not creating your game board upfront and spending too much time doing each individual question, or you're taking too long with your inference. Know when to cut bait and drill so that making inferences and your game board becomes second nature.

I think as you drill more and create your own process you'll be able to get more consistent and comfortable under time. I think Cant Get Right did a 7sage webinar about Post-CC and I highly recommend it! He has some great advice on there!

Good luck!

Hey Jay, I am also currently hitting the mid-high 160s while BRing in the Mid to High 170s. I'm also in the LA area and would be open to studying together! Let me know!

Interested!

Hey, I would recommend this Post CC Study Strategy Webinar. https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/post-core-curriculum-study-strategies/

To be honest, it should be about taking a PT, Fully BRing (be as extensive as you can), Analyzing whats giving you trouble (specific question types or just LR, RC or LG) and then going back to the CC and drilling/re-learning while also doing some Untimed Work. You really don't need to take a PT every day and that is a waste of your time/the limited resources. Like what a lot of the Sages say, PT should just be to see where you are and what you need to work on, but a lot of progress comes from BRing and drilling.

I would suggest just go chronologically starting at 74 and then your last two prep tests can be the two most recent tests you have. i also agree with The Great White Shark in that you should also strategize for any future tests you have. Also, don't forget to BR and drill and not only do prep tests.

Good Luck!

Hey man, i'm currently in PST and would love to talk to you about potentially being partners!

Hey! I had the same questions you have and decided to get the Loophole because more material doesn't hurt. I'm currently halfway through and I definitely recommend getting it. I have to warn you, the substance of the Loophole isn't that much different than 7sage and I wouldn't say that getting the Loophole will drastically make you a master in LR. To become great at LR its about consistently putting in the time to drill and knowing how to approach the different LR questions. However, what I appreciated about the Loophole is that its a different point of view. Its consistently reminding me of lessons that were on 7sage that I have forgotten about, while also teaching me some new ones as well (CLIR, etc.). I would say if you're not going to take the time to read it, then just drilling and BRing would be a better use of your time. But if you have the time to spend an hour a day to just read and understand what Ellen Cassidy is saying, then it is definitely worth it.

Hope this helps!

Hi, I don't know how in-depth my advice can be without specifically knowing your situation but from what you've stated in your post, I would recommend cutting down the amount of PTs you take per week. How about trying to do maybe 1 or 2 PTs a week but do a more intensive BR with the goal of trying to get a 180. If your BR isn't perfect then that means there are some things that you are not understanding (remember the goal of BRing is if you had unlimited time in the world, how would you perform on the LSAT). Also, in my opinion Practice Test is a way of practicing, but it isn't the most effective way to practice. I would say taking a PT is like playing a game of 5 on 5 basketball; you get a limited number of shots, you don't have the ball all the time and you're focused on other things instead of your mechanics. You still need to do your shooting and dribbling drills to get better. Do some question specific drilling (maybe 10 questions of a specific question type you struggle with), or some untimed drilling. All of this will be a lot more useful than taking a practice test (remember you have a limited amount). Hope this helps!

Would really appreciate if I can also get a copy :] Thank you!

Hi to piggyback off this post. As someone who is current in the -4 to -6 range for LR, what would you high scorers recommend in doing to bring it down to the -1-3 range? I currently PT around 167-169 (-0 Games average and -4-7 RC) and haven't been able to break through to the 170s range. Would love to hear how you guys got into the 170s and how you consistently are PTing at a high score.

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You should do drills of your problem areas— game type, LR question type (with special attention to any of the highest yield areas—as identified by your PT analytics) , RC passage topic type/etc.

I would consider a more intense review strategy that spans more than a single day. Really break apart the exam, analyze your errors, watch explanation videos with valuable insight that you feel could be implemented to future PTs.

I had this same problem and I agree 100% with this. First off, though I don't know how extensive your BR process is, I would say you can expand on your BR process and really analyze the questions you got right/wrong. Don't only focus on right/wrong questions but also questions that took a long time to figure out (even if you got them correct). Also, watch J.Y's explanation videos and match it up to how your real-time and BR thought process was.

Keep a log of the questions you got wrong and 3/4 days after you finish BR, create a problem set with these questions and try taking them again. If you got it wrong again, then review your thought process.

Drill your problem areas. If its 4/5 star questions, see where you mess up and drill some 4/5 questions. If it is a specific question type, don't be afraid to review the CC and then do some problem sets.

The Loophole is a great book! I am still reading through it but its been a great tool to supplement during non-PT days. If you have the means, a tutor is also a great option to have during the week.

Great Idea! I would like to join!!

I don't know how your process is with other question types but I had the same problems with NA questions and a two-part process really helped me get comfortable with them. A NA question is pretty much a type of STR question in that the right AC has to strengthen the argument. So before I look at the AC I do a quick pre-phrase and then look for ACs that strengthen the argument. This usually helps me get rid of two-three ACs. My next step is negation testing. Just plug in "it is not true that" in front of the answer AC and see what it does to the conclusion (conditionals are much easier cause you can just negate one side of the condition). If the negated AC totally wrecks the conclusion then it is the right AC. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions! Hope this helped!

Hey! Would love to join this as well!

I do this for all my PTs and definitely recommend it as a great strategy. I think 7sage analytics regarding timing and answer choices chosen is helpful but recording yourself gives you a fuller picture of how you were acting during time. It truly is a pain to watch though. Seeing yourself choose the wrong answer and spend 30 seconds just flip-flopping makes you want to pull out your hair.