With less than a month until the Nov LSAT, I'd like to make my PT's as "real" as the real thing. Any advice on this? I will be using an iPad.

Thanks all, and happy studying.

Hi, all.

I'm barely scraping a 154 (138 cold diag), and after choking on the exam yesterday, I've decided to delay a year and take the July exam.

My typical breakdown is as follows:

LG: -4 LR: -10 LR: -10 RC: -13, I can BR up to about 164

I plan to continue to fool-proof games until I can consistently go -1 or -0, I think this is very realistic for me considering I started at -18 on games. I will restart the CC on LR and RC, I am missing a lot of basic fundamental skills.

I've burned through a lot of the recent PT's, does anyone have advice on how to start over? I have about 5 months until the July test, I'm really hoping to sit down and really learn the test. I really feel like if I learned LR like I've learned LG, I could break into the high 160's. Please let me know if this is a pipe dream lol.

Thanks to all!

I will be 27, I feel a little behind. I didn't expect to work for 3-4 years after college. I hope it is not an invasive question. Happy to hear about stories about why you are going to law school at this time. :)

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Hi all,

I've made some pretty respectable progress since the beginning of my LSAT journey. I went from 138 to the low 160s.

My improvements were:

LR -15 to about -6 (My BR is -2 to -3)

Games: -18 to about -2 (I can go -0 depending on mistakes or not, I make really stupid reading mistakes like assuming that its MBT when it says MBF"

RC: I average -13 (weakest section) and can't get any better, although i don't really practice this.

With only 4-5 weeks left, what should I focus on if I'm trying to score 165+? I want to drill RC for 1-2 weeks to see if I can turn that -13 to to a -7, but I'm not sure if that would be the greatest use of my time. I do 10 in 10 pretty well for LR, but questions 13-20 really stump me.

Open to any advice on how to get the most gains in 4 weeks, considering the information above.

Thanks i love you all, and thanks for reading!

PS: Reschedule isn't an option, I've put this darn test off for like 2 years already. I'm really proud of my improvement so far and want to be done with the LSAT by this Nov. 165+ is the goal, I would be happy with 163-164!

RC isn't my favorite section. I get anywhere from 10-16 right, 13-14 would be an accurate average for me on RC.

It's important to mention that I've never practiced it (going to do it when I get there in the CC). Is it possible to go from averaging 13-14 to about 20 right on RC after finishing the CC? I'm wondering because I've heard so many people say RC is tough to improve on because it's something that a person was taught there whole lives and can't be improved in a matter of months.

How much did you improve on RC after finishing the CC?

I only finish about 3 passages by the way, I usually run out of time while reading the 4th.

Thanks!!!

hey all!

I am at an average of 160 on my PTs with the following breakdown:

-0 Games

-6 Per LR, sometimes less, sometimes more.

-13 on RC

If I improved my RC, it could totally push me into the 165 range. With only 7 weeks left until the Jan exam, I'm seeking advice on the best way to improve my RC score. Advice on LR is welcomed, too!

Thanks all!

Hi all-

I'm in the middle of full-proofing, and sometimes I come across a game that's categorized as "MISC" and they always give me a really hard time. How have you all approached these type of games? Do they get easier as I finish full-proofing? (I'm only on section 5 of 35)

Thanks.

Please let me know your thoughts! I don't work for the LSAC, so I know that I'm not a professional. I thought writing a few questions would help my LR studies. If you have time, please let me know what you think, how hard it was, how easy it was, where I made a mistake, etc, thanks!

Heart disease, also known as cardiovascular disease,

is one of the leading causes of death in Country X.

Studies show that individuals who eat a diet high in

trans-fats have a higher chance of being diagnosed with

heart disease. Burritos, a popular Mexican entree commonly

consumed by in Country X, contain high calories. Therefore,

a person who consumes burritos regularly has a higher

chance of being diagnosed with cardiovascular disease.

The argument relies on assuming which one of the following?

A) People of Country X generally know that burritos are unhealthy

B ) If all people eat burritos less, they would invariably be healthier

C) In country X, eating foods with high calories will raise one’s trans-fat

consumption by at least some amount

D) Eating any food with high calories will result in heart disease

E) Generally, refraining from a high fat diet is better than a diet that

includes a high amount of fat

I just took the Jan LSAT at USF (University of San Francisco), and the tables were TINY. It was very hard to do logic games because of the limited space. The tablet already took up half of the table!

I don't think this negatively affected my score, however, it was really annoying and I wanted to give you all a tip so this can potentially avoided for you all. I do understand that sometimes the LSAC will assign you test centers that you didn't choose (this happened to me, I actually chose College of San Mateo which is a great testing center).

TLDR: Avoid USF testing center, tables were super small.

There is an option to "waitlist", but should I? I don't see a problem with taking the test in November instead (I get 4 extra weeks of studying :). But I am worried about applying in December versus November, will applying in Dec versus Nov make or break my app?

Thanks!

I have 1 official score from 2017 (should not have even bothered with the test)

and I have 1 cancel from the Jan 2018 exam. I cancelled after feeling like I bombed the test. Does this second attempt count as a "take"

I'm scheduled to take the exam in 2 weeks, which would be my third attempt, but only my second official score. I'm worried because I'm open to taking the January 2020 test in the event that I do not reach my goal score in November, and I don't want too many "attempts" to ruin my chances of getting into law school. Any thoughts?

Hey all,

I am working through the LG portion of the CC while fool-proofing. This by far has been the best way to learn and master LG. Its only been a week and I feel like I'm learning so much.

I have a question for those who have finished fool-proofing.

I'm spending about 4 hours a day purely focused on LG and fool-proofing 5-6 days a week. I honestly do not see it taking longer than a month at this rate, but please let me know if I am wrong.

Cheers and thanks in advance :)

Hi all,

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and answer my post.

I have scored a 138 on my diagnostic, took the December 2017 lsat and got 147.

I was averaging 146 with a high of 152.

I work full time at a very busy litigation firm as a litigation paralegal. It was very hard to make time to study. I enrolled in a testmasters course but didn’t really learn much. I was always so drained after work to absorb anything he instructor said.

I’m planning on taking 4 months off of work to focus full time on the exam to retake (and use the 7sage LSAT program).

Is it possible to get to the 160-170 range?

I’ve mistakingly exhausted the last 20 practice tests.. didn’t realize that was a mistake until I came across 7sage. Considering this, will the 7sage course still be useful for me?

Thanks again.

I was sitting down at a hotel lobby getting ready to take my first LSAT ever. I remember reading huge words and arguments and thought to myself: "Ok, I will never be a lawyer, this is only the entrance exam and I can barely shake it, how am I ever going to be an attorney?

I got a 138, and only about 5 questions right on Logic games. After studying for about 3 months, (not very many hours per week) I finally took a official LSAT and got a 147. I needed a 155 to have a decent shot at the regional school I wanted to attend - I got denied.

Fast forward a year and I study for a few more weeks, thinking I only need a little bit of improvement to scrape together that 155. I was wrong, I took another official test but cancelled because I knew I wasn't going to get that 155. At this point I thought I was NEVER going to law school.

I came across J.Y., his amazing team, and this amazing group of people here on 7sage. I decided to quit my job and dedicate 6 full months to really learn the LSAT, like from the bottom up. I mastered games first through full-proofing and then LR, and then on to RC. My highest PT was 161 and that's what I actually got on game day.

With my new and improved 161 score, I was accepted into the school that previously denied me, and I was awarded $100,000 in scholarship to attend. 2 years ago when I applied with my 147, I would have been ECSTATIC to attend even if I had to pay full sticker price. I am a firm believer that when one door closes, another one opens, with the condition that you work hard and never give up!

These are my tips for anyone who thinks they can't learn the LSAT, and advice for anyone considering delaying a cycle for a stronger LSAT.

Thanks for reading, I've been waiting months/years to make this post. Please reach out with any questions!

TLDR: Went from 138 and thinking I was never going to be a lawyer to accepted with a 161 and having about 2/3 of my tuition paid.

I am planning on (re)starting my LSAT studies soon for the November 17th, 2018 LSAT. This will give me about 4-5 months of FULL time studying. With that considered, which package should I buy?

Here is a little background info about myself in case it helps you answer my question.

Cold Diag 138.

Highest PT of 152

Official Score of 147 (studied for about 1 month, was very busy with full time job)

I am aiming for 160-165 , do you all believe this is possible to obtain with 4-5 months of full time studying?

Please feel free to drop any pointers, tips, and pieces of advice that might help me on my 4-5 month study journey.

Thanks all!

Hi, all,

I've taken about a 4 month break from the LSAT do to personal reasons and just simply giving up. However, I am proud to announce that I am back and aiming to take the October 2019 LSAT.

Considering the LSAT is now digital, how should I resume? I was floating around the 155 range when I stopped and my break down was as follows:

Games: -2 to -6 on games (I've had perfect sections once or twice)

LR: -11 on the easier LR and -12-13 on the harder LR (My BR isn't much higher, i really need to work on my LR foundation)

RC: -15 on RC - Never really practiced this, I plan to go through the CC portion or the LSAT trainer on this section.

I'm aiming for 160, but please let me know what a reasonable jump is in about 15-16 weeks.

Any advice is MUCH appreciated, I am also open to PM's. THANKS!

Hi all,

I'm stumbling across 7sage's law school instruction videos. (Crim, civ pro, property, etc.) and was wondering a few things.

Thanks for your time, all!

I know that applying in Feb as opposed to November decreases one's chances of getting accepted, but does this affect the amount of scholarship money one might get? For example, lets say someone that was accepted is offered 60k, could that person have been offered more if they applied sooner? Is there like a certain amount of funds schools can give out that is given out on a rolling basis? Thanks :)

I'm almost done with the LG section in the CC and I've been full-proofing as I go. I am definitely getting better and I'm very excited about that.

However, I just came across the snake/lizard game and literally stopped doing LG after a 4 hour day of LG. It was so demoralizing.

How often do we see games this difficult? And please spare me embarrassment if this game is actually an easy game :)

I hope everyone is having a great week. The fall weather is starting to come around here in beautiful San Jose, CA.

Anyway, I am thinking of postponing my 2nd take to January rather than November. I don't feel like I'm ready. I need a 156-157 to feel comfortable about getting into my target school and I feel as if I'm barely scratching 150. There is just over 6 weeks left until the November exam.

What do yall think? Take November and see if I can hit a 156, and just take the January exam if not? Or sit out the November exam and take the January one.

Thanks, all.

Hey all,

Before 7sage, I studied with another program and exhausted through PT's 60-80. (not all of them were used as full length PT's, some were used for timed sections).

How reliable will my scores for PT 60-80 be since it will be the second time I look at the questions? It's been a year since i've looked at PTs 60-80, so I'm hoping my mind wont recall everything 100%, and maybe the scores I receive the second time around could be somewhat reliable.

Not sure if this fact will help at all.. but I was getting like 145-150 on those PT's (lol) and 50% on the sections. (yeah i know, what a waste of PT's)

Any thoughts?

Hi all,

I've been spending weeks full-proofing games, and I have neglected LR as a result. My LR is very weak, and I am finishing only about 18 out of 25 or 26 questions on average and getting only 13/18 correct.

My BR score isn't much better, I'm able to get a total of about 17 of 25 after BR.

I scored 151 on PT 70 with a BR of 161.

The break down is as follows:

LG: 17/23 (23/23BR)

LR 1: 15/25 (17/25 BR)

LR 2: 14/25 (17/26 BR)

RC: 12/27 (18/27 BR)

My goal is 156-157. I am confident in my ability to get my LG consistently at -3, but is it possible to see an increase in LR in 2-3 weeks?

Thanks for reading, this post is quite long.

LR is hard for me because my reading comprehension skills are not that good.

I believe my average is about 14 correct per LR section. How do I get this to 18+? I've been through the trainer..finished most of the LR in the CC and I am still so bad at LR.

I want to move on to the LG section of the CC, however, I feel like that's a bad idea because I'd be abandoning LR too soon. I want to be decent at LR before I move onto LG.

Some of y'all are so good at LR.. when I see people say that they get "-2 or -1" on LR.. it amazes me. You rock.

Tomorrow, I start my 15-16 week LSAT journey. I should be very active on this forum, and I'm looking forward to sharing conversations with you all. Any tips for my journey are welcomed.

Lets get it.