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PT115.S1.P3.Q13
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Tuesday, Jan 31 2017

What a piece of shit passage.

-5 timed, -1 BR. Although I managed to get my score together during BR, I still have no fucking clue what this passage is talking about. I hope I never have to read Primate Visions'.

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Tuesday, Jan 31 2017

@ said:

I think the lovely diarrhea brown of PT 75 is by far the most appropriate color for any PT. Honestly, they should just start using the poop emoji as the cover for future PTs.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! I agree! PT 75 will forever be a PT which will live in infamy. This is has got to be one of the funniest things I have ever read on these forums. If I start to freak out on Saturday, I am going to think of this thread to calm me down. Thank you for this, I really needed it today!

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PT117.S3.Q18
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Monday, Jan 30 2017

B is vague, but it only makes reasonable assumptions and would work. I don't think this question is representative of those MSS questions you would see on a more modern LSAT.

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Friday, Apr 29 2016

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BR Blues

Okay, so I am nearing completion on the core curriculum (woot woot!) and I would definitely say that I am starting to grasp these core concepts relatively well (still have much to learn, still a padawan). Lately, my issue has been in BR. I have had this nack of royally screwing myself over when I BR some of my drills. For example, did a 4star RC passage today. I got it done in 7 min. After this I BR'd the section, like always. My pre-BR score was a -1 out of 7. BR was -5!! WTH??! Is it possible my subconscious intelligence is becoming smarter than my conscious reasoning. I guess this might be a good problem to have, in some respects. The same thing kept happening to me when I drilled a bunch of NA questions yesterday. Pre-BR, on the clock I would generally go -0 for the drill. But, when I BR'd I would miss like half of the questions. This is kind of freaking me out...

Does anyone have any experience related to this issue?

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PT144.S2.Q26
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Friday, Jan 27 2017

I ended up just taking a random guess on this one because I was low on time, and I didn't like any of the answer choices. I'm still not entirely convinced that the profit from a convicted criminal's memoirs is sufficient to imply fraud (this is what precluded my choosing E), but this is the best answer choice and this is a principle question. With that in mind, I know the argument does not have to be 100% airtight. Had I realized that under time, I would have been able to see that E, in principle, conforms to the stimulus nicely. We have to make a somewhat reasonable assumption that a criminal who makes a profit off of describing how he was a criminal (think Frank Lucas, Rick Ross, Tony Montana types of criminals who write about how they made millions daily by selling drugs on the street) is making said profit fraudulently. Even though most people associate fraud with being illegal, there are some legal things people do that are also considered fraudulent by some.

I also should have just approached this question more like a PR question. If you look at it through a PR lens, E is the only one that even comes close. This one really played into some my deep biases, and it totally screwed me up. I need to remember that my job isn't to satisfy my biases, it's to answer the question.

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PT144.S1.P4.Q20
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Friday, Jan 27 2017

Thank God this one was last!

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Wednesday, Jan 25 2017

Bumping this for February 2017 takers!!

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Wednesday, Jan 25 2017

@ said:

LR!!! In December I nearly died with RC first followed by an experimental RC. Just a wonderful combination :)

OMG! What assholes!

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Saturday, Jun 25 2016

jpooch14225

Achieving Consistency

Hello 7Sage world!

Need some advice. So, I have taken 10 PTs up to this point. Scores are all over the place, but I am definitely seeing progress. I am wondering, how does one become consistent with their scoring?

My scores are as follows:

Actual/BR

Pre-7Sage

142/No BR

148/158

Post-7Sage Curriculum

146/159

142/158

143/155

147/162

150/160

146/156

159/175

and then today's score of 148/170....

On days I score well I definitely feel like things click, but on other days when it's not going well, I feel like I am trying to transcribe Portuguese in Chinese.

I am a full time student, so I have only been studying when schedule permits, usually around 10-20 hours per week. I have been going at this for about six months. I just felt so shitty after today's result. I feel like I have a hard time staying in the LSAT "zone".

Has anyone else ever had issues similar to mine? I really need some motivation, today felt like a swift kick right where the sun doesn't shine. ='(

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Wednesday, Jan 25 2017

IDC which is first, I just hope my experimental is last.

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Tuesday, Jan 24 2017

I would strongly advise against this. You want to get the low hanging fruit first.

Hey all,

I seem to have found an issue in my thought process which needs addressing. I cannot distinguish between an analogy in an argument and counterexample.

For PT23 S2 Q11, an AP question type, I was pretty convinced that the part of the argument I was asked to describe was a counterexample when in fact, it was an analogy (question wrong :( ). After watching the explanation video I was still a little hazy on this but could definitely see it as an analogy.

Fast forward to PT33 S1 Q2, a MR question, I was faced with the same dilemma. Down to two answer choices, one describing the argument as using an analogy and the other saying it was a counterexample. My instinct wanted to choose the counterexample but I began to recall what caused me to err on the aforementioned AP question. I ended up choosing the analogy AC which ended up being correct.

I feel as if I am on the brink of having an 'ah ha' moment (or am way overthinking this) and was curious if anyone could shed some light and help clarify these two concepts for me.

From what I have taken away, an analogy is used in an argument to show that something is like something else and, because of the similarities, proof that the original reason for the initial something being argued for is in fact a valid. For example, If I say all Jedi use the Force and all Sith Lords use the Force as well, then Luke Skywalker is, therefore, both a Jedi Knight and a Sith Lord. The analogy of the Jedi and Sith assumes that Luke is both, when all avid Star Wars fans know this is not the case (although, this is not an entirely invalid argument. Anakin Skywalker--Luke's father--was, technically, both a Jedi and a Sith).

A counterexample almost directly opposes the initial claim made by the argument. If I say that all Jedi use the Force and I find a Jedi who has no ability to use the Force, then that would be a counterexample. It's like an exception to a rule.

Am I thinking straight? Thank you in advance.

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PT128.S2.Q11
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Tuesday, Jan 24 2017

What the hell kind of a study is this? People are likely to die? Lol, I think I spent 15 seconds during my timed exam just pondering this alone. Not a hard question, but the weird subject matter did make me stop and think about this weird study for much longer than I should have. My mind kept thinking of a mad scientist giving people lobotomies. Lol, those LSAT authors are coming up with weird ways to make us waste time.

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PT128.S2.Q15
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Tuesday, Jan 24 2017

Couldn't make heads or tails of this one under time, but during BR I think I figured it out in under a minute. This is one of those assumption questions where the correct answer is both sufficient and necessary. When I approached the question like you would for an NA, it was very easy. Negate E and it becomes very clear.

If a dramatic novel can be both great and belong to the science fiction genre, how is the classification wrong?

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Tuesday, Jan 24 2017

@ The webinar I was referring to wasn't recorded, it was an in person session. No record was kept. Sorry!

As far as getting better at RC, there are a variety of things that I did:

1. Give RC Priority: at minimum I would do around 2 passages a day, but I would try to hit 4 per day if possible. Really focus on getting familiar with the format of RC passages as they do in fact follow a very formulaic structure. That said, RC on the LSAT is not like any other reading comprehension test you will take, you are learning a new way to do something you have done the majority of your life. It's sort of like driving an automatic transmission car for for 10 years and then having to learn stick shift. Similar, but not the same.

Just like we Fool-Proof LG, do as many RC passages as you possibly can to get familiar with these cookie-cutter passages.

2. If you are in the PT phase, work on timing: take RC in two passes, once to get all of the low hanging fruit and the second to get at those super hard questions. Be OK with a degree of uncertainty. There is no way to be 100% sure on every question, so don't be afraid to concede on a few questions and come back to them later.

3. Become just as effective at eliminating wrong answer choices as you are at finding the correct ones: a good POE strategy can sometimes save you four or five points. Become efficient, not fast.

4. Find an RC philosophy that works for you: I think this is the hardest part of RC. While I took a lot away from JY's "Memory Method" strategy, it did not entirely resonate within me and I was still a little confused about certain things. Explore as many different resources as you need to to find that RC philosophy that 'clicks.' What really helped me was The LSAT Trainer, but I also took away a lot of good tactics from Powerscore's RC Bible. Most people on these forums will tell you that the RC Bibles are worthless, but I found them to be very helpful. IDK, different strokes for different folks, I guess.

5. Find a way to not stress yourself so much: I know this is way easier said than done, but when I allow myself to calm my mind and approach RC from a clear perspective, it really ceases to be the hardest section. Instead of looking at RC as the section that kills your score, look at it as the section with the most low hanging fruit (It's true!!!).

I hope my anecdotes help, and if you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.

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Monday, Jan 23 2017

@.bains

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Although, I have just started studying not too long ago...

Relax, timing is the last thing you have to master. Focus on getting super familiar with the subject matter of the test. Timing will come later.

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Friday, Jan 22 2016

jpooch14225

LSAT Study with school

Hi all,

Need some advice. I began my prep the middle of last month and am planning to take the June '16 LSAT and possibly taking again in September if need be (which, from what I am gathering about the nature of this exam, will probably be the case). I am curious as to what a realistic school schedule is for studying. I only enrolled in two classes for the spring semester at my university. One class is going to be super easy and the other shouldn't be extremely taxing either. I am still a bit concerned as to whether it is a good idea to take any classes at all during LSAT prep. Classes started this week. Thus far, I have been putting in about seven hours per week day and about four hours on either a Saturday or Sunday (depending on which day I want to lay around and be a bum).

I want to rationalize with myself and say two classes is fine, but my gut is telling me otherwise. I do not work, nor do I need to at the moment. Is this a realistic schedule or am I taking on too much?

Thanks for hearing me out. I am new to 7Sage and strongly considering buying the Ultimate.

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PT133.S4.P3.Q19
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Friday, Jan 20 2017

I ended up skipping this question, coming back to it and just taking a random guess at the end because I could not make heads or tails of it. This was the only question I missed in this passage, but I couldn't see C as the correct answer. Using POE, I marked off all five answer choices. The reason I thought C was descriptively inaccurate was that I thought that if the polarity fluctuated greatly, there wouldn't be alternating polarity stripes. They wouldn't follow a regular pattern. You could have three where north faced north, 8 where north faced south, and any random combination. The thing to remember is that having three stripes where north points north could be conceived as one big stripe, hence some magnetic stripes being wider than others. I felt so stupid once I realized this.

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Thursday, Jan 19 2017

@ Dedicate 100% of your free time.

While it is true that you need to devote a significant amount of time studying for the LSAT, be sure not to study more than 30 hours per week. Doing so will likely lead to burnout, and when you are experiencing burnout, any studying is basically time wasted. You have to give yourself time off to let all of the logic absorb into your synapses. The fact that you have a part-time job and like to spend time volunteering will be good for your prep because it will allow you to break away from the LSAT periodically. Though, it may limit you to 20 hours per week, or maybe even less depending on your schedule. Be sure to listen to you body to avoid burnout, and don't rush yourself. If you find that come June you are not scoring where you need to be, postpone.

Studying for this test takes as long as it takes. It's longer for some, and shorter for others. It all depends on how methodically you can construct a good study schedule for yourself. For me, some weeks I could only put in around 12 hours of LSAT prep due to my having a full load of classes. That's OK, because it was quality prep time. Had I tried to force myself to go longer than that, I would have hit burnout fast. 12 hours of quality prep in a week is always better than 40 hours of burnout prep in a week.

Goodluck!

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Wednesday, Jan 18 2017

@ I suggest doing PTs with the app because you have the option of including noise.

For those of you with dogs, try and do a couple sections with your dog in the room. Learning to block out my yapping yorkie's collar jingling in the background really helped. You could also try taking a couple practice sections at starbucks, or some other crowed public place.

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Wednesday, Jan 18 2017

Update: yes, I see it now! Having a more routine notation method allows you to pinpoint the area of the passage you need to reference from those fine detail questions. I have only been practicing @ notation method on basic passages, but I can now read the passage in and notate in around four minutes. If this cuts down my time on these types of questions, I should be able to locate the correct answer more confidently and have more time to check circled questions. I can't wait to try this on a full section.

This isn't really a technical 'problem', but it is related to 7Sage tech. Anyway, is there a way to enable push notifications for the 7Sage app for iOS?

Now that I'm done with undergrad, I have nothing but time on my hands and would like to get more involved on the message boards. At the same time, however, I don't want to be in front my computer the majority of each day.

Thanks!

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Sunday, May 15 2016

jpooch14225

LR Explanations for PTs 1-16

Hey everyone,

So I decided to drill some full length sections of LR this weekend, now that I am done with the core curriculum and starting to PT. I did both LR sections from PT 1 only to find that there are no video explanations. Am I looking in the wrong place?

OK, so my battle with RC and been brutal, long, and very emotionally draining. I originally was going like -16, now I'm going -5ish. In RC I have seen the biggest gains. I have done really well and learning to "see the forest" before I examine the trees. As @"J.Y. Ping" put in a RC webinar, you have to be able to understand the passage at the 10x level, the 5x level, and the 1x level, 10 being the forest, 5 being individual paragraphs, and 1 being the individual trees.

Questions related to the 10x and 5x level are starting to become very easy to me, even for some of those level 5 passages. What still to this day trips me up are those 1x level questions where you have to understand certain parts of the passage at the 1x level. Out of the 5ish questions I usually miss, almost all of them are 1x, fine detail level questions. When I BR and grade my PTs I always see the right answer and I'm like, "Ahh! Damnit. It says it right there in that one tiny sentence! How did I miss/forget that part?"

My question to all of the RC gurus out there is how did you learn to remember things in the passage at the 1x level under timed constraints? For me, I almost always have to return to the passage, and I usually just don't have enough time to make it happen, so I circle the question and skip. The questions I miss are generally due to not remembering a specific detail from the passage, and not having quite enough time to return to the passage. When I come back to these questions, I usually just POE because I am at my last 2-3 minutes of the section. It's so frustrating because I am so close to going -0 on some sections, and the questions I miss are really not that hard, it's just remembering the fine detail.

As always, thank you for the feedback!

Well, this year's election was full of surprises. The biggest surprise for me was that my home state, Nevada, decided to legalize recreational marijuana. I found this to be very beneficial for me in my situation. No, not because I will be toking up on a daily basis (never really could get into that stuff), but because I have possession of paraphernalia charge on my record.

Prior to the election, I knew once it was time to apply I would have to explain this charge, in detail, for admission to any law school. It's really embarrassing to have on your record. Especially because the glass pipe I was caught with wasn't even mine (it was my friends, I was just letting him keep it in my car. I know, stupid decision. But hey, I was 18 at the time). With that, my question to the community is this: now that marijuana will be legal in my state, as of January 1st, what does that mean in terms of admissions? I can't help but feel vindicated by the outcome of this referenda, but I'm not sure how it will look in the eyes of admissions officers. Should I still disclose? If so, how do I explain this now (it seems kind of silly now that pot is legal, especially for such a minor offense)? I'm hoping that admissions will look at it and just laugh. It kind of reminds me of being charged with being a minor in possession of alcohol by consumption. Once your 21, the charge just looks silly (to me at least).

Anywho, what do y'all think? This is kind of one of those moral gray areas between law and ethics, and I'm having trouble seeing the right solution.

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Wednesday, Mar 09 2016

jpooch14225

Regarding the core curriculum,

For the modules like the strengthen and weaken question types, should I power my way through all of the problem sets I have available or should I take a more gradual approach (one to two sets per q-type per day)?

I have found the one star and two star questions to be very easy but the three star are very challenging and the four star seem out of my league entirely. Just curious if there is an ideal method to go through them. Thank you in advance.

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Wednesday, Mar 09 2016

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Strengthen/Weaken Q-type

I have a question regarding strengthen and weaken questions: If I am stuck between two AC's, could I simply try to put both of them into the argument, one at a time, and see which strengthen/weakens more?

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Friday, Feb 03 2017

@ said:

For me, it's when there's an assumption that is so obvious, we don't realize it isn't actually stated. So something along the lines of:

If we let students use cell phones to look up information during tests, there will be no reason for them to learn and retain vital information. Every test would essentially be turned into an open book test.

The missing assumption is that if a test is open book, there is no reason for a student to learn and retain vital information. This may seem to follow so naturally that we miss the fact that it's not there. This example is actually really conspicuous compared to some of the questions I've seen. If you add in a bunch of fluff and obscure it all with some overly complicated grammatical structures, these can become really challenging.

Those NA questions suck super hard because the assumption is so basically necessary it almost seems irrelevant.

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Friday, Feb 03 2017

To put that into conditional logic, IF the backstreet boys don't make you happy, you have NO soul.

BBH -----> S

The contrapositive: if you have soul, the backstreet boys make you happy.

S ---> BBH

You cannot deny the premise to my argument!!

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Friday, Feb 03 2017

This one is by far the best pump up song. If it doesn't make you happy inside then you have NO SOUL!

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Friday, Feb 03 2017

Thanks for the feedback all! Since everyone else is as neurotic as me about bringing enough pencils with a sharp point, I think I am going to be "that person" and bring 20.

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Friday, Feb 03 2017

I find that the hardest questions are those that have 4 very attractive wrong answer choices and one atrociously worded, but still technically correct, correct answer choice. The stimulus is usually pretty straightforward, but the answer choices sink up a bunch of time. What is particularly hard is that I have a terrible time letting the question go. I sink 3 minutes into them and still get them wrong. It's one thing to get a super hard question but let it go after 30-40 seconds, but those questions that seem like they are going to be easy and end up killing you with the wrong answer choices, oh man those ones get me every time.

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Thursday, Feb 02 2017

This isn't a song, but it gets you pumped either way :P

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Thursday, Feb 02 2017

Well alright! I guess I had been practicing LG's with a nub for nothing. Thank God!!

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Wednesday, Feb 01 2017

@ said:

I brought a whole box because I'm paranoid. No one stopped me, so I don't think there's a limit.

How many was in your box? I really just want to bring 10. That should be fine. That with my blackwing pencil sharpener!!

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Tuesday, Mar 01 2016

jpooch14225

It's official!

Hello everyone!

I wanted to take a moment to formally introduce myself to the 7Sage LSAT community. I am located in Nevada and hope to someday go to the UNLV Boyd School of Law. I am very excited to be a part of this community and hope the learning experience will be fun.

I have been using the free LG explanations and have seen drastic improvement--from getting around 8 right to only missing 1 or 2. I did this in about 12 weeks time (now if only my LR and RC would follow suit XD ). I was initially enrolled in a Testmasters course for the June LSAT, but the class ended up getting cancelled because of low enrollment. Between the time I started my prep 12 weeks ago and the date my TM course was supposedly going to start, I became infatuated with the 7Sage processes and learning methods. I really feel like it is a great bunch of people in this community. The only thing holding me back from formally enrolling was finances. I had already dropped $1500 on the TM course and did not have any spare cash to pay for 7Sage on top of TM. Fortunately for me, TM ended up being a flop, and I was able to get my money back. I have decided to make 7Sage my go to for LSAT prep. I can't help but think that this was meant to be.

Since I have only been prepping about 12 weeks, I am still very new to all of this. Feel free to drop any advice for this LSAT noob! Thus far I have only been through the PS bibles and the first half of the The Trainer. My initial diagnostic was 142 and my highest has been a 148. No too bad for self prep I think, but I am definitely in need of more help. Goal score is 165. I have only taken 5 PT's and they have all been in the 140s. That said, I think I am ready to kick it into gear with the LSAT and work my ass off.

Anywho, that's my story in a nutshell. Thank you in advance for all of the insightful lessons to come.

-DJ

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Monday, Feb 01 2016

jpooch14225

My back hurts!

Okay, I am in need of some advice that might sound strange to some. So, I'm not exactly a small person, in fact I'm six feet eight inches tall so I don't exactly fit into a lot of things very well. Mainly, the desks in a classroom. I find when I do some timed PTs I am slumped way over in my seat, and after about three sections my back starts screaming at me. It got to the point last Friday that I had to stop my test and stand up for a minute to loosen up and stretch. Are there are other 7sagers who have this problem? I am worried because on test day I know I will not be able to pause my exam like a video game. My back really hurts after about two sections and it takes away from my concentration. This is making me feel like an old man at the ripe age of 23. Thoughts?

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Wednesday, Feb 01 2017

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How many pencils can I bring?

Is there a cap? Hope I can bring in at least 6, so I can have a sharp point for each logic game and a sharp point for the other sections. I really want to bring 10, just in case my experimental is LG.

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