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Tuesday, Dec 30 2014

I can't stop checking either!

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PT141.S4.Q22
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Sunday, Nov 30 2014

I didn't pick D because of the word recently. I thought that since it didn't specify when this happened in the stimulus, it could have happened in the 1600s for all we know. So the fact that this yogurt decrease happened recently could be irrelevant.

I think the lesson here is that if the stimulus doesn't SAY when something is happening, its safe to assume that it is a recent occurrence and we shouldn't knock out answer choices just because they say "recently".

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PT141.S4.Q13
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Sunday, Nov 30 2014

I was confused about D, thinking that the methane that the scientists detected must have been exposed to uv radiation because they detected it all the way back in 2003, and if its true that any methane currently in the atmosphere must have been released relatively recently, and its almost 2015, then the methane that was detected a long time ago in 2003 must have already been hit by the sunlight (otherwise there would be methane there that ISN'T RECENT).

I think the problem is that we can't say if 2003 is recent or not. In science, they go by billions of years so maybe that methane really is considered recent relatively.

I thought B was wrong because it made a prediction about the future- I knew it was necessary that the methane that wasn't released recently was exposed to sunlight, but I didn't think we were allowed to predict that the current methane will be too. I thought this was more of a sufficient. Does anyone have thoughts about this? I'm still a little confused about why we get to assume that.

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PT141.S2.Q19
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Sunday, Nov 30 2014

wow totally missed the word tomb!!

LESSON- whenever we see that something was found in a tomb or a grave, it was buried there... so that answer would be weakened if the prediction of what that thing is, is normally passed from generation to generation... because then they wouldn't bury it

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PT141.S2.Q6
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Sunday, Nov 30 2014

For these questions, I guess we shouldn't be picking an answer just because the stimulus DOES what the answer says to do.

C and E both say "films should do this" and the film we are talking about DOES do both of those things. BUT we are trying to justify the reasoning... meaning strengthen the connection between premise and conclusion.

P. Being funny is the important thing for a comedy

P2. The film is funny

C- The criticism for not being realistic is misguided

A. accurately capture the world? Doesn't say this anywhere

B. The description of "popular" was just used to describe it in the context. This isn't part of the argument, we are looking for something to explain why since the film is funny, and that characteristic is what is important for a comedy, the criticism is misguided.

C. The sentence "it is certainly true that the characters are too stylized to be real people" is just a qualifying sentence, not part of the argument. This answer choice is addressing a statement that wasn't even part of the argument!

Imagine if this were true, so film comedies should find their humor in their stylistic portrayals. Does this tell us anything about why, since being funny is the important thing for a comedy, the criticism for not being realistic is misguided?

I picked this before because I was thinking, if being funny is what's really important, then its more important to find humor in the stylist portrayals than to make them realistic. So if film comedies find their humor in these portrayals, and then they don't have to be realistic.

Actually I just realized I picked this because I was looking for an answer choice that said something like "this comedy should not be realistic." (if that was true then the criticism would be misguided because its SUPPOSED to be that way.) But we are not supposed to just be strengthening the conclusion. We are justifying the REASONING, which means we need to find something that tells us why the premise supports the conclusion. The premises don't tell us that the comedies even find their humor this way, so we might NOT be strengthening it. The film as a whole is funny but we don't know if that is actually related to the stylization. We are just saying that whether it is realistic or not is irrelevant for a comedy.

This line of thought doesn't work because its possible for a film to be funny AND realistic.

D. This answers the question. The film is funny, which is the important thing for a comedy, so it succeeds within its genre. If the statement that films are successful if they succeed within their genre is true, then it follows that the criticism is misguided. Maybe its not supposed to be realistic.

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PT129.S3.Q7
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Saturday, Nov 29 2014

I thought this was the hardest question on the test.

A. I thought could be right because if the viruses were gone, then the plankton population level would quickly surge and then they wouldn't have enough resources so it would plummet. But the stimulus says it JUST drops, doesn't say anything about an initial surge so this should have never been a consideration.

B. Clearly wrong

C. This seemed possible.

D. Too vague. "sometimes" and "other organisms" what if its some other time and some other organism? Then it wouldn't resolve it.

E. My reasoning for this being possible was kind of weird. I thought that if any given time, a portion of the plankton were infected with the viruses, then when they took out all the viruses, they must have taken some plankton along with them because the viruses were in/part of the plankton, and if they did that then of course the population would drop. But then I realized it says at ANY GIVEN TIME. Which means even if they did that, there would STILL be viruses in the new water which they have already said they took OUT all the viruses, and this contradicts the premise. So this isn't even possible.

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PT129.S3.Q17
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Saturday, Nov 29 2014

I was trying to bridge the gap between the department store and Bringham's store, so I picked C because it is sufficient to do that. BUT this is not a sufficient question!!

So even though it seems like a terrible argument to give an example of another place and then say "by this standard I should get that treatment at THIS place".. we have to just accept it. Whenever it says BY THIS STANDARD, don't try to bridge that gap anymore in a necessary question. D definitely IS necessary if we are going to go by that standard.

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PT129.S2.Q10
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Saturday, Nov 29 2014

I thought this was one of the hardest questions on the test.

A and C- obviously wrong

D. Eliminate it because the stimulus never even mentions the quality of the product. (Don't make any outside assumptions like better environmental conditions improves quality..) productivity/output is DEF not the same thing as quality. If the necessary condition in the answer choice is literally never even mentioned, we can pretty much guarantee that is NOT the right answer for a principle question.

Also wrong because the word SHOULD is not mentioned in the stimulus.. the farmer is not saying anything SHOULD happen, he just talks about what they do.. "we do this thing which leads to another thing."

E. KEY to maximizing profits? WAYY too strong.

I knew this but I felt like none of them fit so I picked it anyway. Moving forward if I ever get in this position where I feel like nothing fits, instead of randomly picking one, I won't pick the ones that I KNOW are too strong or unsupported. If nothing seems to fit- go with the weaker choice!

B. Confusing because I didn't know if he was motivated by the environment and profit was a side effect, if it was the other way around. So this seemed strong also . But it actually doesn't matter which the FARMER is motivated by, because the principle is just saying in general that this action can happen, and that is supported in the stimulus. We know it can. I think if I thought of this more as a MSS question it would have been easier.

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PT129.S2.Q5
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Saturday, Nov 29 2014

I think I spent too much time on understanding why B was wrong during the test. It could be easily eliminated once we realize that it is not addressing the same subject as the conclusion. The conclusion is making a statement about foods that are both nutritious AND flavorful... and within that subject, its saying we should emphasize the flavor. So an answer choice talking about a subject that is completely one or the other- only nutritious or only flavorful- is relevant to us.

It is also a weak answer choice because it says "few people", not good for a strengthen question.

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PT127.S4.P4.Q24
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Wednesday, Nov 26 2014

I struggled with question 24 because I wasn't sure if I could agree that it was saying "real estate practices should be nondiscriminatory." It said that at first btu then goes on to say "in other respects, however, this proposal also continued to define women in terms of their roles in their domestic sphere and as mothers." I figured that if thats true, then its really NOT non discriminatory, and since the first part of the second approach talks about equal education, I decided it was just LESS discriminatory but not NON discriminatory. After coming to this conclusion I realized none of the answer choices really worked and then didn't know what to do so I picked B.

Why can we conclude that it is non discriminatory after what it said in the 2nd part of the paragraph?

Thanks!!

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PT125.S1.P3.Q16
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Tuesday, Nov 25 2014

for 16 it says "one of the first cultural forms to cross the racial divide in NORTH AMERICA." Why can we assume this means United States? What if they are talking about Canada or Mexico? I know US dominates the continent but I don't understand why we are supposed to assume that these are the same thing.

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PT125.S4.Q20
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Tuesday, Nov 25 2014

I went into the answer choices with an incorrect anticipation. I was thinking, what if they forecast rain every day (and never forecast "not rain") and THAT is why they are right when they forecast rain, in that case it wouldn't be so useful or reliable.

This reasoning actually doesn't make sense. I was thinking if they forecast rain every day then of course when it rains, they will have correctly guessed that it rained. But that's not actually what the stimulus is saying. It is not saying that WHEN IT RAINS, they guessed it correctly. It says that when they forecast it, they are usually right. Which means that if they forecasted rain every day, and there were days when it didn't rain, they wouldn't be right and their accuracy has gone down. So the missing link that I imagined was there was not actually there. So it really is saying there is a high accuracy of forecasting rain... so then what is the missing link? It has to be frequency.

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PT124.S3.Q22
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Sunday, Nov 23 2014

For B, when it said they installed Antitheft equipment, I thought that they could have gained profit because they were losing it when people were stealing before. People who previously were stealing were now forced to buy the books, or expensive books that were stolen that the book store previously had to pay for (causing profit to maybe go down) was no longer a problem.

I guess the mistake is that it didn't say there was a decrease in shoplifting for bookstores. Instead, it is an INCREASE in shoplifting in OTHER stores. It literally even said that bookstores were largely UNAFFECTED. So this should have been the answer.

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PT136.S3.P2.Q10
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Friday, Nov 21 2014

what would be an example of outlining a theory? I thought when passage be said "It may well turn out blah blah blah" that was a theory. But I guess not...

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Friday, Nov 21 2014

ok thank you! So other than that are they basically the same? Or is there any other trend about them getting easier/harder?

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Thursday, Nov 20 2014

Sorry when I said older tests I actually meant a range of 2003-2009. Also does anyone have information about how much the test has changed/when? Maybe I could do some sort of combination of these two...

Hi.

I took the LSAT a year ago, and to study for that I took almost all of the recent prep tests. Now with only a few weeks left I am deciding whether I should take fresh tests that are much older (like 2003) or should I retake the tests that I already took last year, since they are more recent?

With the older tests, since I've never taken them I realize I can maybe get a better idea the accuracy of my score. But they also have a disadvantage because the test has changed over the years. Since it has been a year since I've taken the more recent tests, maybe I will have forgotten most of the material and it will just be vaguely familiar to me. But still, I don't know which is better! Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

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PT124.S2.Q5
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Thursday, Nov 20 2014

I also chose A thinking it was too early to explain what happened during the dates in question. I guess the lesson is that if one answer choice talks about what happened BEFORE the dates in question, it is still more relevant/a better answer choice than one that talks about what happened AFTER the dates in question..

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Thursday, Nov 20 2014

I guess I'm just confused because I don't understand why we can conclude the underlying premise that it is either one or the other. Why can't it be true that Homer created only one of the works? If there was another hypothesis, which there definitely could be, then B doesn't really work. So I concluded that none of the answers were correct and I was stumped. I picked C even though I knew it was wrong.

I guess B gets the closest, but I think it is still a jump to assume it has to be one hypo or the other. If we can assume this, can someone please point to the text and explain to me why? Thank you!!

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PT120.S4.Q14
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Thursday, Nov 20 2014

I realize I'm in the minority here, but I picked B because I was thinking, just because the handwriting isn't hers doesn't mean she isn't the joker, because she could have purposely faked her handwriting.

I figured that if there was another premise that said that indicated the degree to which handwriting samples should look alike in order to be considered of the same source, then then the two premises together could prove that it really wasn't her handwriting nd therefore not her.

For example

P 1. The handwriting is not hers

(assumption- well maybe she still IS the joker but she changed her hand writing because she didn't want him to know who she was)

fix the assumption with P 2: Handwriting samples must look very alike in order to be considered from the same source

then we can conclude that if the handwriting is not like her other handwriting, then it is NOT from the same source, so she is not the joker.

So I thought B WAS the missing premise.

I also understand how A could work so I just randomly picked one of them.

The difference between A and B is that if A is a possibility, it truly ruins the argument making it an easy flaw.

If B is a possibility, it was a way of trying to fix the argument but it wouldn't necessarily fix it- what if indicated the degree to which handwriting samples should look alike, but that degree was "very little." Then the argument would STILL be flawed.

ex. P1- the handwriting was not millers

P2- Handwriting samples do not need to look alike in order for it to be from the same source

C- So joker is not miller

In this case, the conclusion does NOT follow.

So if this answer choice had said, "it fails to indicate that handwriting samples must look alike in order to be considered from the same source" THEN it would probably be correct also. But since it just says "the degree" and that could go either way- it wouldn't necessarily fix the argument.

Lesson- be careful when an answer choice talks about "the degree" of something- you can't just assume what that degree is!

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Thursday, Dec 18 2014

What is the Pomodoro method? Sullysmom, I have had the same problem as you also with the difference between my test and blind review. I am really curious if this is normal?

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PT135.S3.P2.Q8
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Friday, Dec 05 2014

hmm for D on 8 its wrong because capacity does not equal durability?

capacity = maximum amount that something can contain

Durability = ability to withstand damage

the problem is that capacity has a second definition, "the ability/power to do, experience, or understand."

With this definition, durability IS a limitation on the capacity of modern storage media, because the fact that it isn't that durable makes it less "able to work."

So maybe we are not supposed to understand it according to the second definition because the passage is specifically making comparisons between quantity (in this respect, modern technology has a HUGE capacity for storage) and and durability (not so much.)

But we are not psychics and can't expect to know which way we are supposed to interpret a definition. So maybe the REAL reason why D is wrong is because it doesn't mention the authors FINAL conclusion, rather just a sub conclusion.

So its really saying, "given the problem with durability in modern storage media, it is increasingly important for archivists to save only those documents that they believe to have genuine value."

The author acknowledges that this is important when saying "ideally these decisions should be informed by an assessment of the value of each document"... but then goes on to say that this will be virtually impossible because they won't have time to sort them all before they deteriorate.

That should be reflected in the conclusion, and D leaves that part out while A acknowledges the problem.

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Friday, Dec 05 2014

Lesson I learned from the MP question:

If a passage gives a strategy for how to do something and then emphasizes that this strategy allowed them to do XYZ... then the main point probably has to do with what the strategy led them to, not the strategy itself. Think of the strategy as a premise, THUS XYZ... conclusion. Just like in LR questions, we don't pick a premise for our main point.

A means to an end is just like a premise.

D is not the main point. The passage DOES show that nonfictional narrative can be effectively combined with other genres in a single work.

But why is it wrong?

In getting the main point is is useful to quickly skim the authors opinions.

Well here are the authors opinions-

-The collections are innovative at MANY LEVELS (answer choice D describes ONE level, therefore not covering the whole passage because it leaves out other levels.

In paragraph 2 the author explains 2 of the many levels (confronting linguistic boundaries and addressing politics of identities), then says "this effort manifests itself in the mixed structure" so the whole mixed structure thing is really just explaining HOW they do it, not that they are special BECAUSE of that. It is confusing because there is a LOT of support for the whole mixed structure thing. Much of the next paragraph goes in detail describing how each other the books use the mixed structure, then the author makes a statement about it-

"While this ordering may seem fragmentary and confusing, it is in fact a fully intentional and carefully designed experiment with literary structure."

OK this makes it even more confusing because the author is making a conclusion about the mixed structures. What we have to realize is, it is ACTUALLY a sub conclusion, and a sub- conclusion/ main premise is never the main point.

It is a sub conclusion / main premise because we DO have support for it, but then it goes on to support something else!

"In a sense, this mixing of structures parallels content... The writers employ multi generic and multivocal forms TO EXPRESS THE COMPLEXITIES INHERENT IN THE FORMATION OF THEIR IDENTITIES.

THAT PART IS KEY!!! As soon as it shows us that this mixed structure is for the purpose of something else, (keywords- to, in order to, thus, therefore, etc) we know that this is not the conclusion/main point but rather the sub conclusion.

We need a main point that says something that at least covers how they are revolutionary in that they are "expressing the complexities inherent in the formation of their identities." then she concludes that in doing so they are "revolutionizing the genre"... even further conclusion. The rest of the passage basically keeps making conclusion after conclusion, one thing leading to another leading to another, so we need this part in our MP.

-mixed genre --> ability to express complexities in formation of identity --> revolutionizing genre --> redrawing boundaries and showing determination to speak in a world that has taken their silence for granted

D stops at the first part leaving out all those other important arrows. Even worse, it really only covers HALF of the subconclusion- "multigeneric." What about multivocal?

B on the other hand says how they said aside some standard conventions (this is describing their implementation of mixed genres) IN AN EFFORT TO "make the genre more suitable for the expression of their personal histories"

Oh look... we have that in the last paragraph 'To make it more amenable to the expression of their own experiences"

B recognizes that the mixed genres was the sub conclusion, D does not.

I originally picked D over B because I thought that since the author's language was so strong in this passage, I thought B was not a strong enough answer because it only said they made an effort to do this thing but I thought the MP should have explained how this effort was successful. D said "effectively combined" so I felt the tone matched the authors tone better.

However, it is more important for the main point to truly cover the conclusion, (even if its not as strong as we would like it to be and maybe not perfect) than for the tone to match perfectly but it is only describing a sub conclusion.

This is a great lesson on why it is more important to focus on why the wrong answers are wrong, because that is much more clear than why the right answer is right. Here, this correct answer was really not THAT great because the tone could have been stronger. But the other choices are all clearly wrong.

Go through the checklist looking for a MP and eliminate accordingly:

-Does it take a narrow component of the passage and say it is the main point? YES? eliminate (this is what D does, if it says the MP is a premise or a sub conclusion then get rid of it. AKA if the sentence SUPPORTS something else in the passage, and doesn't include that something else in the question, eliminate!)

- Is there an error/ detail that doesn't match or goes beyond the info in the text? YES? Eliminate!

Had I done this strategy I would have chosen B.

Wow sorry for the novel haha but I hope it helps someone

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Friday, Dec 05 2014

kimberlylgoldman326

How to convince yourself to move on?

Hi everyone,

I am sure most of us are anticipating the big day tomorrow... I know ideally I should be completely ready, and I feel good about the material but my final issue comes down to timing. I keep having moments when I am taking practice tests where I tell myself to move on but then I also tell myself that if I just had one more second I could figure it out. This tends to go on for a long time until I spend WAY too much time on a question, don't get much closer to answering it (or maybe I do but at a great cost) and I end up running out of time. This is especially true with reading comp and towards the beginning of sections when I tell myself I can make up for it later by just speeding up even more.

I know we are supposed to leave the harder questions for last. I really want to get most of the questions right though, and I have this fear that if I move on, I will never see that question again and it will take even more time later when I am going back to it to re- familiarize with what it is so I would lose even more time. Does anyone have any suggestions for getting out of this mindset?

I know I need to listen to that voice that tells me to move on but because of this fear and I guess because I'm stubborn and don't want to move on until I feel certain, because I know with enough time I'll get it, and then I don't move on and it really costs me later. On days when I do this I often don't even get to the last reading passage.

Another issue is if I DO get through things fast, for example on the games I might get through the first 3 games really fast and then all the sudden I have a ton of time and I relax and slow down, maybe reread the rules 3 times and play around with scenarios more than necessary. But the reason I had this time was actually because the first 3 games are easy and last is brutal and I didn't have time to relax. Then I run out of time again!

So ya I guess my question is what do other people do to force themselves to move on when they know they are supposed to even when that voice is saying, just a few more seconds and you'll get it? Specifically, do you think that it takes a lot of extra time to familiarize yourself with the question again if you wait to go back to it later? (Because that is my biggest mental block on why I don't move on.) How often do you guys look at your watch? Do you ever get lost in the test, forget to look at your watch and then mess up pacing? My internal clock kind of sucks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Good luck to everyone tomorrow, we have worked so hard and as long as we've tried our best and keep trying our best throughout the test... we can't regret anything! Plus we have had a major advantage with 7sage... this incredible secret that most people probably don't know about! So we are going to crush this tomorrow!! :)

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Wednesday, Dec 03 2014

Do you think it might be nerves? Or maybe seeing the questions a second time around you catch things that you didn't catch before because you are more familiar the second time. This has happened to me too a bunch of times and I don't really understand it either. Another thing I realize I do is during the games I will accidentally make up a letter/ game piece that doesn't even exist, like add L to the list of letters when there is no L, or write a letter that looks like another letter.. Other than that I can easily get them all right, so its really frustrating because its such a stupid thing for that to be my problem. When I know I'm not being timed I don't do this. I have no idea why I do this.. I think for me it might have to do with pressure. But I don't know maybe I'm nuts too haha. I'm curious if anyone else has this problem but I doubt it lol

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Friday, Jan 02 2015

kimberlylgoldman326

Best sites for predicting schools?

hi, I just got my LSAT score and am trying to figure out where to apply/what my chances are at different schools. Does anyone know what are the best/most accurate sites that tell you this?

Thanks so much!!

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Friday, Jan 02 2015

Have they ever made a mistake like this? So I'm guessing our scores are still correct even though the RC section they uploaded is wrong... Right? Was this the experimental RC?

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Monday, Dec 01 2014

I picked E because it said the cities didn't earn returns in the first few years of employment, which I thought weakened the premise before it that said "likely to have a big payoff in several years." If the cities they compared it to did not have a big payoff in several years, then they shouldn't be likely to either.

But I think B is even weaker because if this was true, there might not be any payoff at all, making the statement "he should be praised" MUCH weaker. It is drawing a distinction between their city and the city they are comparing to, showing that since they are not like the other cities they might not have the same result.

E on the other hand is only attacking the small part about several years, but could still have the payoff

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