Reverse splitter means high GPA and lower LSAT?
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Their 25th percentile is a 166. While this isn't necessarily low, it definitely implies that they are willing to go low_er_ than other top 5 schools in exchange for stellar GPAs. My LSN seems to show a relatively high acceptance rate for 165+ with a 3.95+.
UChicago is my dream school, and I'm a fellow reverse splitter. MyLSN shows that we have a chance, at least. I guess we'll see if that rumor holds true soon enough... Good luck!
I don't remember the source, but I vaguely recall hearing that out of the top schools, UChicago especially loves high-GPA applicants (=as in they put more emphasis on that more than other top schools do even if it means foregoing some high LSAT ppl) Has anyone heard this as well? Can someone validate or invalidate this rumor?
I thought Section 5 LR #14 Q about jazz music was one of the hardest on the test.
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do you know if it's common for waitlisted(or sometimes I think they use the word "reserve" listed) candidates to be accepted after getting a higher score on their February LSAT? I already have an LSAT score but I got waitlisted at a school recently and I was hoping to gain admittance with a higher LSAT score. Not sure if that's a common thing that happens....or how they even decide which candidates to admit since the waiting lists are not ranked.
Can anyone who is familiar with the February tests confirm that every single non-experimental question on the February test have been previously tested on other test takers (through experimental sections on their tests or outside-of-us administered tests, etc)? I heard that February tests have unusual questions so I was wondering. Maybe people mistakenly feel like the content is unusual only because they don't get to see which questions they got wrong??
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Yup, they can literally let you in off the waitlist like a few days before class, lol.
Taking the June test can help you get off the waitlist, and I have known people who took the June test for $$$ increases as well.
But taking in Feb. (thus having a score earlier than July obv.) may be better for your chances.
For those people that jump ship to a different school few days before classes start, I'm assuming that they get a full refund on their fall semester tuition?
These are all informative comments, guys! thank u :smiley: I think I'll end up taking the February test.
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Yes, for many, many schools people can be admitted from the waitlist until right before classes start. The number and the likelihood of this happening varies from school to school.
I think that you should rethink your February LSAT position. Many February LSATs have eventually been released, and there's nothing fundamentally different about them.
Really? I always had a bias against them-- I thought they used the february exam to "test out" questions so that it could either be much harder or much easier than other tests (less consistent). On the other hand, the june/sep/dec questions have all already been exposed as experimental sections so they can gauge the difficulty of each question before putting them on real exams.
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Yes, for many, many schools people can be admitted from the waitlist until right before classes start. The number and the likelihood of this happening varies from school to school.
I think that you should rethink your February LSAT position. Many February LSATs have eventually been released, and there's nothing fundamentally different about them.
Really? I always had a bias against them-- I thought they used the february exam to "test out" questions so that it could either be much harder or much easier than other tests (less consistent). On the other hand, the june/sep/dec questions have all already been exposed as experimental sections so they can gauge the difficulty of each question before putting them on real exams.
I'm happy to tell you that you are 100% wrong! The February exam and all other undisclosed exams are constructed in exactly the same way, using experimental material from previous administrations. The only reason they're undisclosed is that LSAC wants to be able to reuse those tests in other situations. Indeed, many undisclosed exams are ultimately used as regular exams. For example, the Sabbath Observer exam from Sept. 16 (undisclosed) was the regular LSAT from Sept. 17.
Wow!! This is great to know!! Maybe I should just take the february...
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Yes, for many, many schools people can be admitted from the waitlist until right before classes start. The number and the likelihood of this happening varies from school to school.
I think that you should rethink your February LSAT position. Many February LSATs have eventually been released, and there's nothing fundamentally different about them.
Really? I always had a bias against them-- I thought they used the february exam to "test out" questions so that it could either be much harder or much easier than other tests (less consistent). On the other hand, the june/sep/dec questions have all already been exposed as experimental sections so they can gauge the difficulty of each question before putting them on real exams.
I have a hypothetical situation-question:
I'm waiting to hear back from a bunch of schools, but let's say that I get waitlisted at some of them. Do waitlist reviews by the schools still go on at at the end of June/during July? Would taking a June 2018 LSAT and scoring higher than my current highest score help me get off the waitlist? If anyone has experienced something like this or knows more about the waitlist process during the summer, please chime in! This is all a "maybe" for me and I hate the thought of retaking the LSAT but I'd like to prepare for different scenarios. I don't want to take the February LSAT because I heard weird stories about those and undisclosed tests scare me.
Thank you~
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Another thing to think about: Not sure that the admission committees of said schools are open until after New Year's. Will applications that come in on Dec. 27 be given any priority to those that come in on Jan. 2?
I asked the offices and they basically unanimously said the officers don't look at them during the holidays. 12/27 and 1/2 submission are essentially the same, no advantage to applying on 12/27
I just received my December score and it's 3 points lower than my highest score (I took June, September, and December). I'm super disappointed because I thought I did much better than September(my highest). How do law schools take this?
Does anyone know the difference between "reserve" and "hold" waitlists? My friend and I got these two different ones. I asked the admissions office but they didn't tell me outright which one is better or worse-- they just said that they're "different."
is this new for this cycle? I thought they had this type optional essays before
I have a very specific question. When an app status goes from complete to under review, does this necessarily mean that literally an adcom officer has opened up my file and is looking/has evaluated it OR does it simply mean that it's now on the queue and ready for review by adcom? I asked a few schools and it's really confusing because the admissions office staff either didn't sound too sure about their answers or sometimes two different people in the office gave me conflicting information.
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I did it in person and was accepted last Friday via email although it is sort of a safety for me according to the numbers. I'm hoping for a scholarship email sometime soon.
They were nothing but nice. They were running a little behind, so don't stress out if that happens again.
I was asked about my double major, whether I had ever been to St Louis, whether I had ever lived outside of my hometown, what area of law I was interested in and why, and also that standard do you have any questions question. There might have been some others I am not remembering.
It seemed to be a split of questions assessing my qualifications, my interest in and likelihood of attending Washington University, and pitching the school to me.
Oh, they also asked me what one of my weaknesses was.
very helpful! thanks!!
Hi!
I'm looking for a study partner or two near Little Neck/Great Neck in NY in preparation of the September test. I took the June test so this would be my retake. My strength is LG and weakness is RC--I'm hoping to work with someone who can complement my skills and motivate each other. I'm also happy to help with improving :) Please post in the comments or message if you live near the area and are interested!
Need advice from people who have done it!
I applied to Duke via the priority track invite and just found out that I'm now on their priority reserve. Is this any different than their waitlist? Feeling pretty crappy right now....
I wrote a Why Duke essay, too.
Anyone else on Duke PR with PT application?
Hi!
For people who took the June LSAT and ticked off "yes" for the CRS service on LSAC, have you been getting merit-based fee waiver email notifications from law schools? I heard that the schools find potential candidates via CRS and start sending them fee waivers sometime after the LSAT scores come out.
Thanks!
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I strongly suggest not letting your parents guide your admissions process in any way unless they themselves recently went to law school. If you asked your attorney for an LOR she/he would say no that is not appropriate. If you go onto any admissions page for law schools, it says that you should not have LORs written by family friends or politicians. I know your attorney does not fit under that category but she is someone who you employeed and who you pay and that does not look good for an LOR. Your LOR is not about who you rubbed shoulders with or who you paid to work for you, it's about who you can speak on your academic work or your work at your job.
Agreed.
I discovered that I made an error on my PS essay. Has anyone ever tried sending in a revised essay? How do schools take those kinds of requests?
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I've read some stuff I could find about Priority Track through Google, and apparently it's something like a 70% chance of admission, statistically.
In 2013 on LSN, 71 people claimed to have received a PT invite. Of those 71, 67 claimed admission, and only 2 of the 67 admitted ended up attending Duke.
Very helpful. Thanks!
Don’t know too much about them— how much of an admit guarantee does the priority track invite portend?
Hi all,
Has the LSAC ever given an experimental section a sthe very first section before?
interesting that it might be for yield protection. Thanks guys!
If yes, what are your stats?
Realistically, how important are personal statements in determining whether you get in or not? I've been stressing out over mine and I'm starting to think that I don't need to worry too much about them.
Answers from people who have already applied/got into T14 schools were be especially appreciated. I'd like to know about your experience
I visited both schools and liked them both. They have very different campus vibes. I think I may be a slightly better fit for Northwestern because I'm an "older" non-traditional student and I grew up in a city all my life-- being in the heart of Chicago seems attractive to me. I would like to return to NYC after graduating but I'm open to the west coast as well. As for academics, I'm not sure how the two compare. Anyone have thoughts on comparing these two schools assuming that cost of attendance would be equal?
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Do you know if people have successfully taken the June LSAT to get off waitlists? I'm waitlisted at a couple of my top-choice schools and I wonder if even a 1-2 point increase could be helpful in getting admitted. I would get my score in early July. I don't believe that LOCI would be very helpful in distinguishing people (everyone sends them all talking about how much they love school xyz...)so I'm stuck on how to increase my chances of getting off the waitlist.
But then again, I wonder if retaking is worth the shot because its a long ordeal and I'm not really confident on scoring higher.
Advice/inputs would be appreciated if you know people who got off the waitlist this way
@ Amazing. This is exactly what I was looking for!
I got invited to GULC's group interview. For those of you who went through the interview process:
Hi!
Is there a list as part of 7sage's resources or discussion board that shows the schools and whether they require school-specific essays for applications(or specific optional essays)? I thought I saw this floating around somewhere a long time ago and I'm having trouble finding it.
Thank you!
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My test was RC/LR/LG/LG/LR.
I had a movies game that I don't see mentioned. I'm thinking experimental?
I think so, I don't remember a movie game on my test. I had two RC's.
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is the LR question about farm dust/inflammatory to lungs/mice real or experimental??? Question stem was "which one of the questions would be useful in evaluating the argument?"
Pretty sure experimental. I had only 2 real LR sections and that does not sound familiar at all.
Thank you both of you! Do you remember an LR question about statins/high cardiovascular?
is the LR question about farm dust/inflammatory to lungs/mice real or experimental??? Question stem was "which one of the questions would be useful in evaluating the argument?"
Urgent question: Is the LR question about statins/high cardivascular experimental or real??????
LR- as expected, average, nothing unusual
RC- easy
LG- first game was super easy, 2nd/3rd/4th game all hardish. In retrospect, the cleaning floor game should be very easy if you put time up front setting up the game but I panicked towards the end and mismanaged my time, guessing on few :( Anyways, the cleaning floor game was still nothing unusual
Expecting about -10 or -11 curve due to the easy RC section.
I heard from a friend who is a public defender that some of the best schools with a heavy focus on PI are Berkeley and NYU.
Should be ok! but try not to let it go PAST January into Feburary. I'd consider February pretty late.
If you're accepted, waitlisted, or denied at a certain school and you apply to law schools again the next cycle, do law schools view the applicant in a bad-ish light? does it depend on whether you were accepted/rejected the previous cycle? I've read some anecdotal success stories on TLS and on 7sage forums, but I wanted to get more general facts on what it's like to reapply.
And I'd imagine that it's definitely recommended or required for you to send in a brand new personal statement?
Do you also need to send in new recommendation letters or can you reuse the ones you had sent in a previous cycle?
Hi guys, is this study group still active? I'm looking for a group to join or start!