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Oh my word, THANK YOU for asking this.
@ No, you're totally good. I get the frustration and concern and wanting to save people from the same thing. But speaking as one of the more pessimistic people I know, try to keep your head up about your classmates -- you'll find the ones that are worth your time! Especially at a place like CUNY, I thought they sounded dope. I don't know the boroughs well, but yeah, I'd def say don't nix it based on where in Queens it is.
I think that's a good move, adding Cardozo and subtracting Georgetown. Cardozo may not be T-whatever, but from what I've heard they have a really solid reputation and network in NY if that's where you want to practice. And yeah, they're 4000x more generous than Georgetown, lol.
Seconding what everyone else has said and adding in personal experience: I studied for a year, 12-18 hours a week. It paid off, but it really wasn't until around month 10 that I started feeling like I had any kind of handle on the test. When I first started studying, I thought I'd be ready in 5 months. So, it definitely depends on your goals, but for most people I'd say be ready to buckle in for a while.
@ I feel you. NYU is on my list now (since making this original post, I’ve decided to just go for it and hope for merit-based waivers, so now I have 18 schools on my list), but the price tag is a huge discouragement. I may apply for an AnBryce scholarship as a first generation college student, but that’s kinda my only shot in being able to afford NYU.
UCLA is the only school I’ve found that has an explicit specialization for critical race theory, so that’s another reason it’s at the top. I already live in LA though, and I’m not opposed to moving but I’d be lying if I said convenience wasn’t a factor, so there’s that. It’s not a felony to be homeless here, but we did just pass a measure that’s really abhorrent -- written to be helpful and now being loosely interpreted to criminalize homeless people, basically. It’s being appealed though, so. crosses fingers And on the flip side, we elected a new DA last year, and he’s already done some really good things in the crim justice realm: eliminated cash bail, trying to get rid of CA’s 3 strike system, banned sentence enhancements, kids can’t be tried as adults, banned the death penalty, trying to get prior death sentences reconsidered, etc. Anyway, I agree that NYC is a hub of progressivism, and a total icon of leadership in forward thinking and positive change, and I disagree that it’s “the only real progressive city in America.” And if it were, honestly I think that probably means that I’m more needed elsewhere.
I do appreciate the heads up, but yeah, that’s about in line with what I’m expecting. I have no illusions about the type of people I’ll be in class with, and it doesn’t deter me any. Not that you were trying to deter me, or your friend was trying to deter you. I mean I’m gonna be really psyched to meet people like you when I get the chance, but really that has nothing to do with my pursuit of law school. I’m a really cynical person 80% of the time, but I know myself well enough to know that if I don’t meet a single person in law school that isn’t in it just for the six figure salary, then that’s a type of fuel for me. Anyway, all that to say that I really do appreciate what could’ve been an epiphany for some on this journey, but for me, it’s all good and I’m gonna do me.
You’ve got a good list! We’ve got Fordham and Columbia in common. :smile: No NYU or Cardozo?
Oh dear... I just used Zoom to hear what I sound like, and it's miserably bad. Is there anything I can do, or anything I'm allowed to plug in to improve it?
@ Thank you!! And thanks for the link. I'd heard of some schools being more/less splitter friendly than others, but I hadn't seen this yet -- it's great.
Location is the biggest one for me (should've put that in the inital post, my bad): for my SO's job I'll need to stay in either California, preferably in LA or close to, or New York. Size isn't really important to me, and I'm interested in probably too many areas of law, lol. Public interest, critical race theory, gender/sexuality, constitutional are all up at the top, with trial advocacy and criminal justice somewhere in the mix as well. Right now UCLA is my top choice because they have classes for literally every area of law I'm interested in, their location, the price tag isn't as scary as NY schools, and they're highly ranked. But after that... shrug
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Hey what is myLSN? I looked at the website and do not know how to make sense of the graphs.
Anyone step in and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a compilation and way to organize all of the profiles and stats from LawSchoolNumbers.com. Not every applicant in an admissions cycle makes a profile, not even close, so the results on there can be skewed but it can be helpful. I can't help you too much with the graphs cause I haven't really messed with those, but if you do the admissions search (under pre-law) you can enter in your LSAT score/an LSAT range and your GPA/a GPA range along with other factors like ED, URM, when did they apply, etc. Then it spits out the number of people within that range that were accepted, waitlisted, and rejected, along with scholarship info if you click on the arrows on the right side. Again, this is all sourced from registered users on LawSchoolNumbers, it's not a complete picture.
@ Thank you! That sounds like a really crazy cycle, but it's helpful to know that's just the reality of it. And I didn't realize splitters should have 15 or so schools, so thanks for that as well. Are the merit based waivers something the schools reach out to you about, or is it something that happens during/post application process?
I started studying 11 months ago, I've postponed twice, and I'm FINALLY feeling like I'm truly ready for the exam next month. I can't tell you how glad I am that I waited, because "failing" early on would have psyched me out, guaranteed.
I totally understand why A is correct, but I'm not able to wrap my mind around why E couldn't also be an explanation. I read E as a percentage vs. absolute value type of explanation. So, if there are 500 people are in the middle section of credit score range for all borrowers, mortgage included, and there are only 50 in the top tier of credit scores, then you could have 200 and 25 people defaulting respectively and you would wind up with more people defaulting in the middle score range. Is it that E isn't addressing the question of proportions, and that's why it's wrong? Or that by E's broadening the category of borrowers that none of that stuff matters anymore? Hefty dose of both?
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