LSAC has a “find school” section. You can submit your gpa and lsat score and they’ll show you your scores relative to schools medians and your chances of getting in

I feel a solid meh. Got 165, wanted 170. It’s at that border where I don’t know if it’s worth retaking. Can I get 5 points better in one month. Do I have time to dedicate to properly studying. October is super duper busy for me.

If I get 5 points better than my dream school goes from 20% likelihood to 50%. Ugh! I hate decisions. I almost wish I got 10 points lower so it’s be a no-brainer

Do I have to request that they generate a report? I got an email today that all my transcripts have been received, but no report that I can find.

I don’t think he knows what “falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” or whatever that senator says. “You tell it better” is a 2nd grade move.

That surprises me the most. The rest of the hearing he was so careful to avoid even a chance of perjury, but suddenly he makes such highly dubious statements as “I put that in the high school yearbook because I respected her so much” or that he never drank so much he had a fuzzy memory of the events... that all just screams of perjury which is a disqualifying event even if he never touched Dr Ford.

I feel like “some type of” to be equivalent of “exactly one of a set” where “set” is 1 or more. Where the fact that “type” is singular is key to this concept. So people have exactly one security system we just don’t know what kind.

I also get this feeling that conversion from many to some seems ok in my head, but the other way it seems wrong. But that is not a logically based feeling, just intuition.

UC Davis

I don’t have the option to move and this is one of 6 or so schools within commute distance

They have an immigration clinic. None of the other 6 schools do.

They’re part of a larger college campus. Hopefully I can sneak in some Spanish classes without hiking my tuition.

They have smaller L1 sections than other schools.

38 years with 15 years of experience that has absolutely nothing to do with law. But despite having less freedom because I have family obligations, I feel like I just got to an age where I can do law school right and focus on learning and not just the piece of paper at the end.

I tried that. I suspect that the rules for most people but not me. I'm very error prone. 95% of my errors comes from confusing "before" with "after", "odd" with "even", "over" with "under". That's why through multiple trial and errors I've arrived at the first question as a device to double check my rules. First I write the rules down. Then I take rule by rule and eliminate the first question options AND double check that I marked it correctly on my board. I admit that it costs me precious time, but the alternative is arriving at the last question and realizing that a tiny confusion has just ruined your entire game.

So, try the tried and true method, and if it doesn't work for you and you find something better, chuck the rule.

Did that for my first PT. Never more. Had 7 minutes left in both LR and RC section but decided to just fast forward the proctor because I was so tired.

I personally do a timed section every couple of days. Just so I keep in the habit of time constraints. I do it at lunch. It’s as close to morning as I can manage. In the evening I’m just doing drills now. I don’t have unlimited time, so doing the 90% of super easy questions seems like a waste of time. I took a book of 10 tests and I drill the hard questions in the areas of my weakness. Plus I do about 5-10 logic games a day (depending on difficulty). I time the games and try to get it all right and under the suggested time limit. That seems to help me more than doing timed LG sections. And it keeps my brain from going mush due to sleep deprivation. If you arrive at the LSAT as a zombie, all that studying will be for naught.

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You have one hell of a story that will make a fantastic PS.

I thought about making that a PS, but supposedly it’s a bad idea. I read an article somewhere about the type of statements people think will make them stand out as unique but are actually a dime a dozen. Being an immigrant or a child of an immigrant and going into immigration law to help right injustices suffered by us/our families is one of those topics. So I’ll probably do a more soccer mom centric aspect of it. Maybe being old confers at least some uniqueness.

Well since this took a somber serious tone, Trump made me do it.

Up until this summer I was your average soccer mom with over a decade of a decent engineering career behind me. Law was just an old pipe dream. Back in high school I took a law class and loved it. But I was a dumb kid then. I feared the responsibility the lawyer has where a mistake could ruin a person’s life.

But then Trump happened. He started separating kids from their parents. That was my breaking straw. I’m an immigrant. When I was a child I spent several years at a facility for refugees awaiting their court date. I still have PTSD from that time. We teach our kids kindness and compassion but refuse to give it to people who happened to be born outside the border. I saw violence and crime that police didn’t care about, I saw a baby die because it was denied medical care and the medical staff that denied it got no consequences. There was only one thing that got me through that hell - my parents. To see what happened this summer made me furious with the system. Normal decent human beings were just shrugging their shoulders and saying “that’s what you get for breaking the law”. When we cross the border our past becomes irrelevant. We become a label that is hated, and is more and more so today. We are forgotten about as soon as we are sent back to the danger we escaped from.

I’m tired of it. I want to give people like me a voice and their basic human dignity back. Human dignity is one of those inalienable rights that should be afforded every single human being. I’m going to use my white, educated, naturalized, English speaking privilege to hopefully change the system. Even changing it for one kid would make it worth it.

37 with two elementary school kids and a full time job. I definitely wish I had done this at 23 with no family. My choices are limited to a top 10 school I can’t get into to, and one that is not aba accredited. And now I have to pay for summer camp and afterschool care in addition to just law school.

On the other hand I find myself better at self motivation. I study all the time. A break at work? Study (I so wish that 7Sage had an offline mode). Cooking dinner? Listen to 7Sage on 1.44 speed. Daily swim practices for the kids? That’s a whole timed section I can do, plus time to spare for a logic game or two.

I told myself that I have to be able to put in the work if I am to be risk the financial well-being of my family. So I have an LSAT score floor. If I get below it, means I didn’t work hard enough, and so won’t be able to do it in law school either so I won’t bother applying. Plus a score level at which I’ll apply to the local top 10 school despite every fiber of my being screaming that I don’t have a chance.

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No lie, I really enjoy the LSAT, and some law classes I took online and during undergrad. I love the feeling of recognizing, and overcoming my weaknesses, and being comfortable with the unknown.

I actually feel the same way. I love the LSAT, especially logic games. It’s hard, but there is a way to beat it. You work hard enough and it pays off. My fear is that the LSAT is the funniest part of law school. But I look forward to matriculating with people who love logic.

Because life is just not worth living unless you have a couple of hundred thousand in student debt

Was the LR section with the question about aerobic exercise vs weightlifting affecting math performance, real? I hope it was. The other section killed me.

The LG where the first game was about the weeks of advertising campaigns (refrigerator, TV, lamp, etc) was the real section

Same here. Switched to Safari and it fixed itself.

I emailed her he school, and within 2 hours got a response. They allow it and will consider ED with old score and in case of rejection will consider the new score during a re-review during the normal application cycle.

I don’t take that to be predictive. The chances of getting in, if calculated only by past results would be worse if I got 5 points higher on the LSAT (1 out of 4). So a sample size of 8 or 4, and totally random outcome seem to indicate that there is simply too few results, and all of it is simply anecdotal. However that fewer people got in with higher LSAT scores, which is counterintuitive, implies that the decision wasn’t made simply based on the LSAT/GPA number. And if all the people in that bracket are outliers, then it’s by far more efficient to focus on the PS, letters of recommendation and the addendum.

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7sage’s calculator is based on MyLSN, self reported numbers. It’s not an exhaustive list of every applicant. It’s good for an approximate measure just to see how similar applicants fared but I wouldn’t rely on it as being entirely predictive

That’s an excellent point. I went to look at their actual data (through LSAC). My particular combo has 8 people applying and 3 of them accepted. The LSAT range 5 points higher has 4 applying and 1 accepted. Which leads me to conclude that at that extreme level of splitting, it’s all about the softs and the gpa addendum.

So I guess I should stop focusing on the LSAT for now and write a killer excuse for bad grades.

Thanks. That really helped clarify things for me.

7Sage has a calculator based on last year’s cycle of how likely you are to get in based on ED, gpa, lsat and month applied. If I raise my LSAT score by 7 points, my chances go to 50/50. Apparently it’s not as binary as “below/above 75th percentile”. Based on that calculator, I cut my already measly chances in almost half if I wait a month, but don’t actually improve.

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You're most likely better off retaking the LSAT and applying at above median.

Also, if you are 7 points below median, 100% do not apply ED this cycle. You will be rejected.

I’m actually right at 75% for LSAT score. I’m just that low of gpa that even an LSAT that high doesn’t guarantee success.