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lkoochek437
Monday, Oct 02 2023

Personally, I stopped BRing for RC bc it started to hinder my reading and ability to quickly make inferences. When I'd BR, I'd get most of RC right, but it was only bc I was reading slowly and had time to find the answers in the passage. This ended up training my brain to want to do this during timed and my mind would go blank trying to make inferences.

Also, BRing would take me forever and I wouldn't want to watch the explanation videos after since they're usually like 20-40 mins. I kinda feel like the explanation videos have been more helpful in finding my mistakes.

I also just wanna say tho that before I see the right answers in RC, any questions I missed, I hide the correct answer and try to answer again. Idk if it's really doing anything, but it makes me interact with my wrong answer and the other choices before I go to the explanation video.

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Thursday, Jun 01 2023

I posted this to an earlier comment, but I think it applies to your question as well! This is how I saw C and D:

The stimulus says “everyone thought the prestigious painting was better” whereas D only says “some chose based on what they were told.” D is implying that some students didn’t choose based on what they were told and that definitely could be true! I think it’s reasonable to assume that maybe some (meaning at least one) of the students don’t care about the history and made their decision on what they truly liked. For instance, the amateur’s could be dull colored abstract lines whereas the prestigious one was full of color. D accounts for this by saying “some,” meaning at least one student was influenced but not all were. The test makers could’ve been more explicit and say “every student was influenced,” but that would’ve been too easy and this wouldn’t be 3 star difficulty. They specifically chose “some were influenced” because it requires more understanding of grammar and underlying assumptions. They’re tricky!

C is wrong for being too strong and because it would require more unreasonable assumptions than the ones needed for D. It says “each of the students would like most of the paintings in any prestigious museum.” C assumes that because they were told the painting was prestigious, they liked it. Okay even if that’s true, how does that support that every single student would like most (meaning more than half) paintings in any prestigious museum? Isn’t that way too strong of a conclusion based on the limited info we were given? The students chose between two specific paintings, but that doesn’t mean all of them would like a majority of other prestigious paintings. I think it’s more reasonable to assume that at least one student wasn’t influenced (D) than to assume all the predictive vagueness presented in C.

I'm not sure if I'm 100% right, but hopefully this helps :)

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Thursday, Jun 01 2023

I know this comment is super late, but I figured I'd reply in case some people in the future are also confused about C and D.

The stimulus says "everyone thought the prestigious painting was better" whereas D only says "some chose based on what they were told." D is implying that some students didn't choose based on what they were told and that definitely could be true! I think it's reasonable to assume that maybe some (meaning at least one) of the students don't care about the history and made their decision on what they truly liked. For instance, the amateur's could be dull colored abstract lines whereas the prestigious one was full of color. D accounts for this by saying "some," meaning at least one student was influenced but not all were. The test makers could've been more explicit and say "every student was influenced," but that would've been too easy and this wouldn't be 3 star difficulty. They specifically chose "some were influenced" because it requires more understanding of grammar and underlying assumptions. They're tricky!

C is wrong for being too strong and because it would require more unreasonable assumptions than the ones needed for D. It says "each of the students would like most of the paintings in any prestigious museum." C assumes that because they were told the painting was prestigious, they liked it. Okay even if that's true, how does that support that every single student would like most (meaning more than half) paintings in any prestigious museum? Isn't that way too strong of a conclusion based on the limited info we were given? The students chose between two specific paintings, but that doesn't mean they would like a majority of other prestigious paintings. I think it's more reasonable to assume that at least one student wasn't influenced (D) than to assume all the predictive vagueness presented in C.

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lkoochek437
Wednesday, May 10 2023

Hi! I don't think your answer is considered wrong. Both of those statements are logically equivalent, so they say the same thing. I just think /B → R → A → /S helps illustrate the "A" and "/S" conclusions for q11 better than S → /A → /R → B, which was given in the answers.

Hope this helped, but your answer was definitely good! My response was more for showing the original commenter how to contrapose, not that the other answer was wrong :)

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lkoochek437
Tuesday, May 02 2023

I have a question about question 1: My answer was "/drive out poachers → /relocated pandas prosper" because I read "that relocated to this part of the forest" as modifying "pandas," not as an embedded conditional. How can I differentiate between the two when the sentence uses "that?" Why can't we use the "Group 3 or 4" translation rule? Also, I think my answer is still saying the same thing as the given answer or am I just delusional? I'm still trying to get a hang of embedded conditionals, so any help is much appreciated :)

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lkoochek437
Saturday, Apr 29 2023

Hi, I'll try my best!

In order to contrapose, you need to swap the sufficient and necessary condition, then change the negation. To start, look at the simple conditional statement in Q11:

/R → J

- Step 1, swap sufficient & necessary: J → /R

- Step 2, change negation (remember that 2 negations cancel each other out): /J → R

Contraposing /R → J becomes /J → R, which is why we can't make any valid conclusions about Jon because the prompt gave us Robb (invalid argument: affirming necessary condition).

Contraposing a chain is just like contraposing the simple conditional.

S → /A → /R → B

- Step 1, swap sufficient & necessary: B → /R → /A → S

Notice that the order is now reversed. How I remembered it was whatever ends the "original" chain will begin the contraposed chain.

- Step 2, change negation: /B → R → A → /S

So, contraposing S → /A → /R → B becomes /B → R → A → /S. Thus, since the prompt gave us Robb, we can conclude Arya must be killed, but Sansa can't be. We can't make any valid conclusions about Bran for the same reason as Jon.

I hope this was what you were looking for and I could help :)

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Friday, Apr 14 2023

I'd love to join the groupme :)

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