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madhun606
Thursday, Nov 30 2017

Hey @ - do you have a group PT schedule that you could share? Is it going to be one PT per week in sequence, starting from PT36, reviewed each Tuesday? (Apologies if you already answered this in the comments above!) And would it be okay if I joined some calls here and there? (I may be working on a slightly different PT schedule since I'm aiming for a first take in Feb).

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madhun606
Tuesday, Aug 29 2017

Like @, I'm aiming for Dec or Feb, with June as a backup. I'd love to stay updated on this group!

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Saturday, Apr 29 2017

madhun606

LG Bundle, LR drills, course upgrade

Hi all --

I heard that the LG Bundle and LR drills are available in the syllabus, right before the PTs. However, I don't see these in my syllabus. Are these problem sets available only to Ultimate+ students?

Also, if I upgrade from Ultimate to Ultimate+ now, will that increase the number of hours in my Core Curriculum? I've already started on Ultimate and planned a study schedule based on the number of hours of video lessons in the course.

Thanks!

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madhun606
Friday, Sep 29 2017

Correction: the PT36 score was a 164, not a 163.

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madhun606
Friday, Sep 29 2017

Thanks, @!

@ -- re: Foolproofing: do you think there's a difference between doing PTs 15-35 before moving on to the PTs versus doing those games (say, on 3 days per week) while also doing a PT cycle each week? Either way, I definitely plan on finishing the rest of the bundle.

Re: PT36: I got a 163 on the timed attempt and a 175 on BR. (I was pleasantly surprised, but then again, this is just one PT; it's probably not fully representative of where my average score is right now). My target score is the T3 median or above ---172+.

I'm thinking of doing roughly a PT cycle per week till Dec, then 2 PT cycles per week till the Feb exam. And maybe switching it up each week - 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s?

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Thursday, Sep 28 2017

madhun606

PT schedule/order for Dec & Feb takers

Hi all -

I'm aiming to take the test in December and/or February, with June as a backup.

Thus far, I've finished the CC, taken PT36, Foolproofed games from PTs 1-15, and worked on some LR and RC drills.

From here on out, I'd like to take a PT each Saturday. I'm wondering --

(1) Is it possible/advisable to continue Foolproofing games (PTs 16-35) while also running this type of PT cycle, or should I dedicate myself to finishing the Foolproofing before doing more PTs? (With the latter approach -- I'm worried that I'm not getting enough exposure to full-length PTs).

(2) For those planning on Dec or Feb -- do you all have any recommended PT schedules? If I do a PT per week, I can expect to finish about 9-10 PTs by the time Dec rolls around, and then I plan on doing 2 PTs per week between the Dec & Feb exams in order to get an additional 20 PTs by Feb. (This would also leave me with about 15 fresh PTs until June, in case I need to retake).

(3) Is there a recommended order in which to take the PTs (i.e. might it be best to mix up older and recent tests since time is limited until Dec/Feb)?

Many thanks!

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madhun606
Monday, Aug 28 2017

Thank you all! This is very helpful.

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madhun606
Thursday, Apr 27 2017

Thank you both for the great advice! I'll work through the CC carefully, foolproof the LG and continue drilling until I feel comfortable, then head into the PTs.

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Thursday, Oct 26 2017

madhun606

Filming the test

For those of you who have filmed your tests, would you mind sharing your best practices for setups? (Do you use a tripod?) And have you been able to transfer videos off of your phone? I've been experiencing difficulties transferring large video files from my Android phone.

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madhun606
Friday, Aug 25 2017

I understand why answer choice E is correct, but can someone explain exactly why D is incorrect?

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Monday, Apr 24 2017

madhun606

After the Core Curriculum

Hi all! I'm just getting started on the Core Curriculum. In order to plan ahead, I'd like to figure out what comes immediately after the completion of the Core Curriculum. Do you head into the PTs right away -- or do you spend time doing more practice on problem sets from PTs 1-35 (esp. the Foolproof Method for logic games), in addition to the drills that are already part of the Core Curriculum? If it's the latter, how many weeks should one generally plan on spending on extra problem sets before doing PT 36 & beyond?

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madhun606
Tuesday, Jul 24 2018

Ugh, yeah, I'm in the same boat...it's really stressful. I'm even considering the international dates (September in Mexico or October in EMEA or Asia)...

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madhun606
Sunday, Sep 24 2017

Hi! I'm excited to see this group getting started.

I've taken one PT (#36) post-CC, and am currently working on Foolproofing the games from PTs 1-35 and doing drills for LR and RC. I'm going to mix PTs (maybe one per week, to start with) and this type of drilling beginning this upcoming week. I'm aiming to take the test in Dec or Feb, with June as a backup. @ - do you think I'd still be able to participate in this study group if I take 10-15 PTs by Dec and ~30 PTs by Feb?

I'm based in CA and my schedule is pretty flexible -- I generally study in the 8:30am - 4:30pm PT range. I plan to take PTs on Saturday mornings to simulate the actual exam.

In addition to BR, I might be interested in game-specific drilling and LR question-type drilling.

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madhun606
Friday, Feb 23 2018

But what if there are other factors that influence how effective a hemoglobin molecule is at picking up oxygen molecules? Would (C) still be the case?

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madhun606
Monday, Aug 21 2017

@ and @ - Thanks for the responses! I'm just about to get started with LG Foolproofing, after taking PT 36 as a post-CC diagnostic. I'm excited (and nervous).

@ - What I plan on doing is similar to the method that Pacifico outlined in the discussion forum. I'll foolproof each game in the PT individually, and then later (maybe a day later and then again a week later) -- do the full section to make sure I can complete the set of 4 accurately & within 35 mins.

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madhun606
Saturday, Aug 19 2017

@ - Haha, thanks! (It's a reference to Silicon Valley, where I'm based :)

Is there an advantage to alternating between lower-numbered PTs and PTs in the 30s range (e.g. PT 1 and 35, PT 2 and 34, etc.)? Would that offer a sense of both older Games and modern Games, or would you say that the Games are pretty consistent across the board?

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Saturday, Aug 19 2017

madhun606

Foolproofing Games

When Foolproofing LG after the Core Curriculum, do you start at PT1 and work your way up -- or would it be better to Foolproof the Games that JY teaches in the CC (sequencing, then In-Out, then Grouping, etc.), assuming you didn't do that while going through the CC?

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madhun606
Wednesday, Nov 15 2017

According to JY's explanation for answer choice (C), the fact that the patients knew that they were undergoing some sort of study -- and the fact that the study wasn't "double-blind" -- could actually weaken the results of the study. So why can't (C) be a correct answer to weaken the argument?

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madhun606
Thursday, Dec 14 2017

But as far as I can tell, the conclusion is not actually saying that the rise in standard of living is the "result of" major investments in infrastructure. The conclusion is indeed confusing the sufficient and the necessary, saying that major investments in infrastructure are necessary (rather than sufficient) for a rise in standard of living. But is that the same thing as saying that the rise in standard of living is "the result of" those investments? Not as far as I can tell. So I'm not sure that answer choice (D) describes the flaw that accurately.

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madhun606
Thursday, Dec 14 2017

Doesn't the fact that the two flies are genetically identical aside from that one gene already take care of the assumption in answer choice B? In other words, let's say we negate answer choice B: even if another gene is required for the formation of the UV vision cells, the non-UV flies already have all the same genes as the UV-equipped flies. They only had that one gene altered. Doesn't the conclusion still stand?

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Saturday, Dec 08 2018

madhun606

Tomorrow's score

I am so nervous for the score release! Can't focus on my applications this evening...should I just watch a movie?

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madhun606
Monday, Aug 07 2017

Thanks so much, @! I appreciate the detailed response. I took your recommendation and tuned into @'s webinar, as well as a few of the other 7Sage webinars (on BR and how to prep to score in the 170s range). Super informative -- and I've come to understand what you're saying about being flexible in terms of timing. I see that the road ahead is a long one, but I suppose that completing the CC is a good first milestone.

Hope your prep is going well!

Hi friends -

I wanted to follow up on a question I posted a couple of months ago, about what comes after the CC. I'm now close to the end of the Core Curriculum. Well, actually...I still have most of the Logic Games curriculum ahead of me, but I've had prior exposure to a very similar methodology for Games, so I'm hoping to cover the lessons in about 2 weeks' time.

However, I am still a little uncertain about how to best go about the Drilling / Timed Sections phase after the CC. Here's what I'm thinking:

Logic Games:

-Despite what I wrote above about prior exposure, I know this will be my weakest section when it comes time for drilling. I'm going to need tons of practice.

-I was thinking that I can Foolproof about one PT section per day (PTs 1-35) until I feel like I "own the games," as JY puts it. I'm estimating that this might take say, about 4 hours per day.

-Additionally, redo a previous PT section that I've already Foolproofed, to make sure I can still do it (maybe another 35-60 minutes)

-Questions: What do y'all think about the aforementioned approach? And as I get more comfortable, should I move from Foolproofing to doing timed sections, before I start doing full-length PTs (36 onward)?

LR:

-Simultaneously, while working on the LG Foolproofing, I can do the LR Drills for PTs 1-9 that 7Sage provides in the Ultimate course.

-Question: Should I do timed sections after this first set of drills, before I start PTing?

-Question: Should I save the LR Drills for PTs 10 onward for my BR/PT phase?

RC:

This seems to be my best section thus far. I was thinking of doing a timed PT section per day (PTs 1-35) while Foolproofing LG and working on LR Drills.

Of course, this would probably require about 7 hours of training per day.

Then, once this phase is complete, I was thinking of doing two PTs per week in two 3-day cycles: -Day 1: PT or full-length exam

-Day 2: BR and score + review video explanations

-Day 3: Drill weaknesses

Question: Any thoughts on this PT/BR schedule?

Would love to hear what folks think about this plan -- and what's worked well for you as you've pursued the drilling and testing phases of this journey.

Tagging @"Alex Divine" and @Mellow_Z since both of you offered excellent responses to my earlier post :)

Many thanks! This community is just awesome, and I'm thrilled to be a 7Sager.

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madhun606
Wednesday, Oct 04 2017

Do you all think it would be useful to submit a high GRE score in addition to the LSAT?

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madhun606
Wednesday, Oct 04 2017

@ - Many thanks! This is super helpful. I just sent you a direct message with a few thoughts.

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madhun606
Monday, Oct 02 2017

@ - Sage Josh? Thanks so much for your detailed explanation. I have indeed watched your webinar; in fact, I've returned to parts of it several times over the past few weeks.

I think I'll try alternating PTs from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s (~one per week) and then I'll really focus on the 70s & 80s as the Feb test gets closer.

I took my second PT (PT40) this weekend, and my score was lower (162 / 173 BR) than what I had on PT36 (164 / 175 BR). It was a bit disappointing. I'd like to work toward a 173 but a 10-11 point increase (post-CC) seems daunting. But I'm prepared to stick to it.

Here are some of the things I'm thinking of doing -- I'd love to get your thoughts, if you don't mind...

Review CC notes daily

For LG: Continue Foolproofing (PTs 15-35) and doing timed section repeats for games I've already Foolproofed

For RC: Drill hard passages. Do untimed & timed sections from PTs 1-39 and previously-taken PTs.

For LR: Over the past couple of weeks, I did the first 5-6 questions of each type from the PTs 20-29 drills in the Ultimate+ course. I might now focus on just the question-types that I'm struggling with. In addition, I think I should also start doing full sections either (1) untimed, (2) timed, or (3) timed with confidence drills. After Blind Reviewing the sections, I'll analyze my mistakes AND also review each question with cookie cutter review (logic), grammar review, and maybe test writer review.

I'll also try to incorporate pacing/video review across all the sections once I set up a camera.

Here are a few specific questions:

-Generally speaking, should I be reviewing and analyzing every question -- including ones I got correct -- after completing a section or a full PT?

-What sections would be best to use for the LR training I've outlined above? PTs 1-39 and previously-taken PTs?

-How are the 7Sage BR / study groups structured, and would it be a good idea to fit those into this plan?

Sorry for the long note! I hope this line of thinking will be useful to others who are recently out of the CC and/or preparing for the Feb exam.

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madhun606
Tuesday, May 02 2017

Thanks for the advice, @! I just upgraded! :)

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madhun606
Wednesday, Nov 01 2017

I didn't catch this before, but the Stanford website notes: "Please be aware of the high value Stanford places on school-specific letters of recommendation." Is this true across all of the top schools -- they expect/prefer tailored letters?

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