Hi everyone, so I'm taking the test in October and I'm currently averaging 167 with BR at 173. While I do have a solid amount of time to study before the test, I'm feeling frustrated over a few things. Any advice on how to fix out some (all, any!) of my current problems would be *immensely* appreciated (thanks to all for your help/support thus far!) So here are my questions:

1. How do I increase my BR score?? What keeps happening is that I second-guess myself on questions I originally got right in LR and then get 2-4 questions wrong in BR (hence the 173).

2. I've scored 167 the last 4 PTs and I don't know how I can analyze my results better in order to address my problems. I usually get between -6 and -4 wrong in LR and between -4 and -1 in RC.

3. Most importantly, where do I go from here? What should I focus on? I've been taking 1PT a week and BRing thoroughly, but should I postpone taking any more PTs and focus on drilling RC and problem question types for LR or is BRing more important? As of last week I've been writing down explanations for every answer choice for every question in LR and RC, so maybe that's the way to go?

Hello all,

I work full time and I'm having a hard time making time to study. I leave the house at 8:10am and come back between 6 and 6:30pm every day. I cook, eat dinner, and then study from 8 - 11pm. On the weekends, I study 4-8 hours each day. However, I feel like I'm not getting in enough study time and find myself making very slow progress because I don't study much during the week. I've tried getting up earlier, but it's a huge struggle and when I do manage, I'm half asleep half of the study time. What do you guys do to improve time management/squeeze in more study time during the week? Do you think I should fix my sleep cycle and study early in the morning rather than at night? I'd really appreciate any advice/tips you might have :)

Hi guys,

I've just made a new schedule for myself and I wanted your opinion on it. I've been studying for the LSAT for about a year and have already read the LSAT Trainer once and gone through the 7sage curriculum twice. Currently, I've gone through most PTs in the 30s and 40s. With the remaining time, I was planning on starting on PT 52 and doing two PTs a week, and doing up to three a week in September when I'm on my annual leave from work. This is my third and last attempt at taking the LSAT, so I thought it'd be a good idea to go through all of the remaining PTs and save the most recent for last. As I go along, I was planning on reviewing key issues and doing some drilling, as needed.

Do you guys think this is a good study schedule or do you think it would be more useful of my time to just take one PT a week and start with more recent ones? Thanks for sharing your thoughts/advice :)

In a recent reply to someone's post, I saw @Pacifico recommend using a clean sheet for BR. I'd never thought of doing that before and my BR scores have been in the 168-180 range the last several months. I wanted to hear your different views on why you choose to use your old copy or use a clean copy when BRing. Personally, I like using my old copies so that I can see which questions I circled. I also find it useful to try and dissect my thought process the first time I answered a question so I can see where I went wrong on some questions. Inevitably though, on the toughest questions I do second-guess myself and have a hard time making a decision between two answer choices (my old one and a different one). Definitely thinking about switching to clean copies to see if it helps my BR scores increase. What do you guys think?

Yes, my score came in this morning and I got 7 points lower than I was aiming for. Retaking it in December. Anybody have a good study plan laid out? I've already done the 7sage course and gone through about 20 PTs, so I'm thinking about focusing exclusively on more recent PTs (like the last 20) and reviewing/trying to find my weakest points. Does anyone have good advice/pointers? Unfortunately, I had to take the LSAT outside of the US, so my results are undisclosed and I can't go over my mistakes on the actual test :/

I can't remember what JY says about this, but when I read the LR Powerscore Bible they strongly emphasized reading every single answer choice. I'm scoring in the mid to high 160s now and I've gotten pretty good at knowing when I'm certain it's the right answer and when I'm not so sure (I used to not know what I didn't know lol). Once or twice per section, I know the right answer immediately without a doubt. Do you think it's still necessary to read through the remaining answer choices? If I skipped reading the remaining answer choices, I could devote 5 - 30 seconds checking another question or devoting more time to a harder question. What do you guys think: still read all the answer choices or don't bother?

It seems I consistently make 1-3 LR confidence errors per test. If any of you have had this issue, how have you fixed it? Thanks for the help :)

In recent PTs (60 onwards), I've been averaging -1 or -2 per LG section and I usually have 1-4 extra minutes after completing all of the games. With that extra time, I try and re-do questions that I think I may have gotten wrong. However, I'm just guessing and I'm trying to figure out a better way of being able to pinpoint exactly where I've made mistakes. Does anyone have advice on this? I would hate to make some mistakes I could've easily fixed, but never identified on test day.

I've been accepted to two T-14 schools and am now trying to compare the different LRAPs and general student debt assistance programs they offer. I'm unfamiliar with some of the terms and don't fully understand some of the conditions for the programs. Does anyone know where I can get a good, easy-to-understand, general explanation of how these programs work? Would be immensely grateful for the help :)

As the test date approaches, I'm trying to study and improve as quickly as possible. I'm still making mistakes in the law and science related passages of RC. I've already been reading a lot of science sites/magazines, but I'm not sure what else I can do. Any recommendations would be immensely appreciated! :)

Hi everyone,

At the end of this long journey of applying to law school, I've had the misfortune of second-guessing myself. I got accepted with no scholarship at NYU, but in the past few days the thought of incurring so much debt has felt daunting. I'm not horribly debt averse, but sticker price just seems overwhelming. My goal is to pursue a career in public interest law, so NYU has been my dream school for the past two years. I thought I could do BigLaw for 2-3 years, pay down as much as I could in that time, and then transition into public interest. With NYU's generous LRAP program, I thought I'd be able to handle the remaining debt. But as @"Jonathan Wang" stated in a previous post, 10 years is an extremely long time and my interests and goals could change drastically in the meantime.

With strong softs and an acceptable GPA, I'm confident that the only reason I haven't been offered financial aid at NYU and have been waitlisted at my other top choices is because of my LSAT score.

I had originally planned on applying to law school in 2014, but postponed in order to re-take the LSAT. Now I'm wondering, should I continue working another year and re-take and re-apply in the fall? I think I'd need to increase my score about 4 points in order to get generous financial aid from Chicago/Columbia or get accepted into HYS.

When I took the LSAT last time in October, I felt like I hadn't reached my full potential on the LSAT. However, I'm afraid that taking the LSAT a fourth time is very risky; what if my score decreases, stays the same, or only increases one or two points? Should I just count my blessings and go to NYU this fall?

What do you guys think? You guys have always been supportive and helpful in the past; any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Hi all,

I've taken the LSAT twice already; in September and in December. My scores were about the same both times; 8+ points off from my goal. After careful consideration I've decided that I want to go to my top schools badly enough to continue studying and try again in June. However, after my disappointing December score as well as studying + full time work, I'm unmotivated and burnt out. Any ideas on how to get back into the groove of studying every day?? Any tips/advice would be appreciated :)

As you can see from the title, I'm having a dilemma and I'd really appreciate any thoughts/advice you might have. I'm retaking the LSAT after having a disappointing score in December. I've decided that after nearly a year of studying for the LSAT, I don't want to get a score less than 168. I feel like I'm capable of it and I've seen a slow but steady improvement since I started studying again in February.

However, because test day scores are +/-3 points, I want to be averaging a 170+ before taking the real thing. Right now, I'm still averaging in the upper 160s and haven't been able to consistently score above a 170. It's mid April and I thought I should see how I do on the next two PTs. If I'm scoring 170+ I thought I should go ahead and register for June; otherwise, continue studying until September.

Are my two most recent PTs sufficient for me to base my decision on and/or should I simply wait until September? What do you guys think?

Now that I'm done studying for/taking the LSAT, I was wondering if anyone could tell me more about the 7sage law school prep. Is it for people who are in the middle of their first year or are you supposed to do the course before you go to law school? Also, in what ways do the course prepare you for law school? Thanks for any help in advance :}

I've heard so many different views on this. What are your thoughts on law school prep? Given how much time and effort we put into studying for the LSAT, it feels odd to just sit around and not try and prepare for law school itself, since it's paving the road for the rest of our careers...Also, what's the latest on the 7sage law school prep course??

I have a deadline to accept a scholarship from one school, but I want to wait for my dream school's financial aid package before making a decision. Does anyone know if there are any serious repercussions to accepting the scholarship offer and then withdrawing my application from that school if I'm happy with the financial aid from my dream school? I don't think it's fair to give someone a one-week deadline to make such a huge financial decision, and if I'm not given an extension (which I've asked for), I'm trying to weigh all of my options. Any advice would be appreciated!

Hi all,

I just tried registering for the LSAT and the site says that the testing center in my area is currently full and that I'll be wait listed for a spot. Has this happened to anyone else and what does it mean? I'm a bit confused because despite being wait listed, I'm still supposed to pay for the registration...?

I completed the 7sage starter course to prepare for the September LSAT, but I'm pretty sure I'll be taking it again in December. In order to continue studying, I was considering upgrading to the Premium course. However, before making the purchase, can someone please tell me in more detail what the Premium course can additionally offer me? Specifically, I want to know which additional PTs with full explanation are offered. I was debating on upgrading vs buying a few of the latest PTs and just reviewing the lessons from the Starter course. Any thoughts/advice for preparing my study schedule as well as the pros/cons of just buying more PTs rather than upgrading would be immensely appreciated :)

If you cancel your score after taking the test, does this count as one of the three times you're allowed to take the LSAT within 5 years? Thanks in advance for letting me know :)

Hi all, I'm looking for a Skype study buddy that's already consistently scoring a 168+. My scores fluctuate from 166-168, but I was hoping someone with a higher score might be willing to be my study buddy to help me work through some of the tougher RC/LR questions and help get me to the next level and score higher. I know explaining/thinking through questions with someone else helps, so hopefully it'd be beneficial to both of us.

I'm planning on taking the June LSAT (Sept/October at the latest) and was hoping for a Skype chat like once a week on the weekends starting sometime this month, since I'm moving on to solely taking PTs (rather than reviewing course material) starting with PT 44. If anyone is willing, I'd be eternally grateful!! PM me if interested.

I've reviewed JY's lessons for Sufficient, Pseudo Sufficient, and Necessary Assumptions twice, but I'm still struggling a lot with these question types. I frequently get them wrong, particularly Sufficient Assumption, and it's really frustrating. Any advice on how to overcome this stumbling block? I feel like as soon as I improve on these question types, my overall LR score will improve immensely, so any help/suggestions would be immensely appreciated.

Hello everyone,

While my PT score has increased little by little, it seems like my BR score has hit a plateau in the low to mid 170s. I've been studying for the LSAT for quite some time and am feeling frustrated that my BR score isn't consistently 175+. Anyone have advice on how to improve the BR? What tactics did you use? What I'm doing right now is going over all of the questions again after taking a PT. However, I still make confidence errors and am having trouble spotting them in advance. Any advice/tips you might have would be greatly appreciated.

Hi everyone,

For those of you who have already submitted their applications, I have a quick question. I'm strongly considering visiting my top choices in person (two I'm waiting to hear back from and two I've been waitlisted at). If I decide to do this, what's the protocol for a campus visit? I was already planning taking a campus tour and sitting in on some classes. On TLS, Mike Spivey also recommended visiting the admissions office. If I do that, what do I say to an admissions officer? What kind of questions should I ask? What should I say/not say? Any advice from you guys would be enormously appreciated, I'm feeling a bit lost during this portion of the application process. Studying for the LSAT was so much more straightforward lol.

removed by admins.

While I've seen my LG and LR improve a lot over time, I'm afraid I've plateaued a bit in RC. On average I make -4. I've already done the whole 7sage curriculum (twice) and I'm reading the LSAT Trainer for the second time. Does anyone recommend the RC Manhattan Prep for RC? I saw it's $10 on Amazon, but I was just wondering if it was worth my time to read through it. Any thoughts or advice on this question and more generally the RC section would be appreciated :)