So, it's June 8th and I'm ready to take my exam. The school location changed at the last minute and I seem to be in an industrial building. As confused as I am as to why the location was changed, I'm still just trying to stay focused and remind myself of the different strategies I intend to use to attack the LSAT. I walk into the room and it's different than any other classroom I've experienced. There are no windows, the walls seem to be made out of dark metal sheets, and the lighting is very dull. Our seats are arranged in a square like fashion. If I look in front of me I can see someone directly facing me and there are people immediately to my right and my left. I'm worried because this just feels unnatural and depressing. As I look up I see the proctor walking in, and it's the TA from "Writing I" during my freshman year of college. This confuses me. He was also heavy smoker, and I am reminded of this as he proceeds to fill the room with a dull smog of cigarette smoke. Suddenly J.Y.'s voice pops into my head, he says "you can do this, remember all of your training, and the countless hours you watched videos of Jon and I explaining simple answers you got wrong." The proctor administers the test and shortly after I begin.

I open to the first section and it's LR. "This is awesome", I think to myself. "LR and LG are the sections where I've produced the best results and intellectual advancement, just like J.Y. said I would." However, by the time I get to #14 time has been called and I've missed answering half the questions. I'm going crazy. I think to myself "Is this the experimental? Should I cancel my score? Should I continue?" The next section is LG, attempting to shrug off the crappy feeling the previous section bestowed upon me, I move forward. Time is called again, and once again I only finished halfway though. This makes no sense to me. My 180 watch has 15 minutes left on it. Somehow everyone else in the room comfortably finishes except for me? "Is this a joke?" I think to myself. At this point, I go through all of the mathematical possibilities for me to at least hit a 155 (assuming one of the sections was experimental.) I eventually move on to the third section and it's RC. This is my worst section, yet I finished it on time with 5 minutes left to spare. It's weird, he didn't call time early and I finished RC early?? "I must be dreaming" I thought to myself. It's time for our break, but, it's 45 minutes long. "This must be why he cut the first two sections so short, he wanted to add 30 minutes to the break so he could smoke half a pack."

During my break I go home and contemplate suicide. The stress is eating at me horribly, thoughts of 1L at a crappy school are haunting me, and I feel like all I've studied/worked for was for nothing. I started to cry and feel ashamed to look into my family's eyes, my girlfriend's eyes, and all I could think of was being an outlier of the 7Sage curriculum. 7Sage has produced so many high scoring awesome individuals, but I couldn't live up to that standard. I get ready to go back to my testing location and try to at least finish the exam with some dignity.

As soon as I get there the test had already started. I WAS 15 MINUTES LATE! well, I really wasn't, but the proctor decided to cut the break by 15 minutes. I rush to my exam and it's another RC section. I only answered 10 question before time was called, and it was horrible. I felt tense, I felt everyone's glaring eyes staring into my soul through the smog, and I started to laugh hysterically. I looked at my test booklet, and it was infinite. I was stuck in a room with an LSAT test that never ended. As I was laughing J.Y. appears and clears the smog away. I then looked at my test booklet and it was brand new with 5 sections. As I look up I noticed I was in a new testing room. J.Y. is the proctor and everyone's usernames I could remember from 7Sage hovered over blank faces. I started my exam and as soon as I turned to the first page I woke up.

Just imagine, we take this exam about 75 times (assuming you take almost all of the PTs), not all of them are "failures" relative to our own goals, but imagine being turned down hundreds of times? Never stop moving, if some people stopped believing in their ideas we'd never have these things.

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Is this a website issue or the effect of the new licensing agreement? I thought 7Sage was safe until April 24th! I attempted to download them from a school computer to print, my Macbook Pro, and my Desktop.

I wanted to share mine. I frequently look at the law school numbers website to see who's been accepted, how much money has been awarded and etc. I see scores better than my official score, but much lower than my PT scores (either having worse gpas if not exactly the same) getting accepted and even with some scholarship pocket money. I was given a second chance to re-apply to my first choice if I can improve on my June exam. My blood boils at the fact that I can do so well but under performed when it counts, this motivates me to keep going, even when mentally fatigued (I don't mean burnt out.) To clarify I mean that if I've set up an agenda for that day I don't allow myself to fall short OR do it half-assed. GAAA I'm so angry! Fortunately this makes me a crap ton more motivated to keep going and noticing my improvement makes it all more enjoyable! If anyone else wants to share their take please feel free! I just had to let this out!

I will be shortly be studying for the LSAT again! Woohoo!

Here's a #TBT from the last time I was studying. Share your pics as well!

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Hello, all!

It's been awhile since I've posted on here (being in law school and all). I was wondering if anyone who previously used 7Sage--and is currently in law school--can share their law school experience. This may also give current 7Sage students an idea of what to expect when they get into law school. I'll start with my own experience.

First semester was hell--as it should be. My legal research class was graded--in other schools it it a pass/fail class--which added to my stress. The paranoia of the curve ate at me and I started to analyze people based on how prepared they were for class, or how much they actually knew vs. bsing the professor when cold called (because most classes only have finals, so it's hard to compare yourself with other students, at least until the first semester grades are released). There are plenty of other things I can discuss but I just want to use this to break the ice. Below I will also have some advice for those that want to go to law school or those about to head into their first semester.

It is extremely important to focus only on yourself when you're in law school. Do not worry about other people, or how smart you think someone is. In law school it's all about pacing yourself and focusing on yourself. The people who usually do the best in law school tend to only focus on themselves, not what others are doing. Make friends early, form a study group within the first month, and meet at least once a week--not during school hours. If you don't already know how to outline, look up outlines from previous students at the school you will be attending. Some outlines at my law school are tailored to a specific professor and go well with how the class is structured/taught, while other outlines use generic formatting. Start outlining before school starts--your school probably has first week assignments posted a couple of weeks before school begins. Supplements are awesome, especially the E&Es (Examples and Explanations) although other supplements are great as well. Your professor may recommend some supplements based on what previous students have told them--you should really pay attention to those supplements.

If I have any more advice between my classes I will edit this posting. I hope others can contribute or share what they learned about law school.

P.S. first semester is hell, but it's to weed out those who do not truly want to be there, or who can't compete enough to be there. Once the first semester/year is over it feels like home--in my case anyway.

When Studying for LR I find something strange happens [This does not happen all the time, just sometimes]. During PTs (usually in the first section of LR introduced) I don't do extremely well (I get about -10/-11).. Later on when I visit the second set of LR I do a lot better (about -5/-6). This happens when taking full-length PTs, or if I decide to dissect 2 LR sections from a PT I don't plan on taking all at once (due to either time constraints or my lack of intention to fully utilize that particular PT.) I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this. At first I thought it was a sign that I was improving, but now I'm not sure if it's a stroke of luck, or w/e. If anyone has any input let me know!

Hello, everyone!

I'm sure a lot of you have heard about the recent LSAT changes. If you have not here's a recent post with the article attached: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2484/lsac-licensing-changes.

Anyway, I know a lot of people are probably freaking out. Hell, I made sure to DL all that I needed from 7Sage when I first read the news. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered. What happens to 7Sage and other online based prep courses? How will this affect how I study? When will changes take effect, and how soon? How will this affect my subscription? I mean, after all, we all did pay X amount for X amount of time. This all includes the PTs, lessons, and videos for every question. Well, here's the direction I THINK LSAC is heading towards.

We all know that 7Sage uses paid subscription, and that we are allotted a limited amount of time of which can be extended at any time. My understanding is, LSAC no longer wants PDF PTs to be free to circulate once someone is done with any course that utilizes these PTs. So, my assumption is they will change the format of future PTs to another file type, and will have all prep test courses that use PDF PTs to switch over to this new file type. This will be similar to renting a digital textbook at any university/college. You purchase the license, and after X amount of time the file deletes itself or is no longer accessible. It's not much different than the current system at 7Sage, minus the PTs will self-delete. It's like losing the ultimate package after one year of being subscribed to 7Sage, we just can't keep the PTs we downloaded a long time ago.

Along with everyone else, I'd like to hear what the higher ups have to say about this. @"J.Y. Ping" and @"Dillon A. Wright"!

If you have any alternate theories or anything that compliments what I wrote, please discuss! Anticipate the worst, hope for the best!

This past week I've been mainly focusing on LR and decided to take PT 60. There was no huge increase/decrease in my RC section, but I averaged 4-5 more right in each LR section on this test. I was wondering if anyone else had any input, I know that LSATurday recently reviewed PT 60, if I'm not mistaken.

A lot of you know my story, but if you don't here's a link to the situation I was in about three weeks ago: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/3178/i-m-not-really-sure-how-to-feel

So, I received the score I need to be seen as a strong applicant to the 2 schools I have in mind, but I was waitlisted because seats were full. I was able to convince my family that taking a year off was the best move (Trust me, this is hard on me as well; I had a huge timeline planned in my head, and I feel like I failed myself.) So here I am. I now have a year off, and I get to apply during early admissions to the schools I would like to go to. I still feel stuck, however. I was told that both schools don't necessarily care if I take the LSAT 3 times, because they don't average the scores, but is it worth it?

If I'm accepted early and I take the LSAT a 3rd time (this will be around December), can I even make a case that I can have more, if any, scholarship? I have not touched LSAT since my test ended on June 8th, so if I wanted to have any improvement that warrants a larger scholarship opportunity, I'd need to wait till December. However, I may not even be able to make a case for higher scholarship at that point, because a lot of money will have already been given out.

Also, to be quite honest, I'm not sure how much time I can dedicate to studying the LSAT until I find a job that pays more and work out what's going on with my potential participation in a presidential campaign (which should boost my resumé for law school.)

I've ran through 7Sage two times, and I understand it's a bit different now than when I went through it the first two times, and I've been through the trainer once. If I do study, should I go through 7Sage again or just fill the gaps (ie the new stuff added or unchecked in my schedule.) I'd probably go through the Trainer again.

So is it worth it? I still feel as though taking the test 3 times, even if they don't average it, looks bad! Also, even if I did study again, I'd only take it AGAIN if I averaged at least a score that was decently higher than my current score. Any advice is appreciated >.

Hello all! I hope your weekend is going well and you are given the time you need to focus on studying for the LSAT!

I was wondering if there was anyway to see the videos, even though I check the box that says "Do not save answers." As I mentioned in another thread, I haven't been able to finish PTs, so I do a lot of sections w/o completing exams. For example, 2 LR, 2 RC, next day 1LG 3 LR, and any other variation you can think of. Unfortunately after I BR, I can only see whether my initial answer/BR answer is correct but I can't watch the videos that explain why I'm right/wrong. Is this intended, going to be changed later, or am I just missing something and I can already watch the explanations? I do plan on having the whole PT scored, just not all at once. So because my BR and review is so staggered I was hoping to review questions without having to officially complete a PT.

I would like to thank all the staff at 7Sage for not only helping me, but the rest of us. I would also like to thank the community for all of its help, with a special shoutout to @Pacifico who helped me a lot through PMs.

I don't have much time to write this, because I was admitted to the law school of my choice! I could not have achieved this without the help of 7Sage and the community. The only downside is, I was admitted 2 days before the semester started. The workload is hitting me like a brick wall! Classes are extremely interesting, and the readings are very interesting. The only difficult part is getting into rhythm, learning to outline, and stay 40-60 pages ahead of the assigned readings (recommended by the law professors.)

I hope all your studies are going well, and I hope to stay on this forum whenever time permits.

Even in hard times, whether it's studying for the LSAT or anything else in life, remember, the carousel never stops turning (kudos if you get the reference)!

Thank you, guys and gals!

Hello, all!

I decided to start doing the LG bundle games that I never did (when studying for the December exam). I always averaged about 3-5 wrong which really frustrated me. My best ever was -1 and I was never able to hit that again. I finally hit 0 wrong in 33 minutes and 30 seconds. It feels amazing :)! I need to continue of course, but it feels good knowing my hard work is paying off and that I might have finally gotten over that hump!

Share your success/hump stories as well please :D! it's great motivation :)!

When I'm too frustrated or feel unmotivated from the stress of life I watch this. This hits me because I use to be a football player but it applies to everything we want to be successful in.

I was recently waitlisted at my law school of choice. I want to make this clear, this is my first law school of choice. My score and UGPA/LGPA are what they are looking for. I contacted the school to ask some questions. There are 66 applicants ahead of me (which include full/part-time) and I can be notified as late as the first day of school to be taken off the waitlist and transition in the 2015 cycle. I was advised to write a letter of continued interest. Once I write this and email it, it will be added to my file. I was wondering if anyone has advice about this. I know what I want to write, generally, but I don't want to come off... Idk, I can't find the word, I'm too upset. I was told that this is an application they'd take if it was earlier in the year. What should I include in my letter of continued interest?

Hey everyone! I haven't been on the forums as much because I realized I was spending more time on here than I should be (was sometimes getting in the way of my LSAT studying). So I'm here now and I want some opinions. I have not been taking FULL Tradition PTs, I've been taking sections and doing them all timed in different scenarios. For example, I'll take 3 LR sections and 1 RC and then BR those. Another day I may do 2 LG and 1 RC and 2 LR. I'm not sure why but this feels easier. Come the last 3-4 weeks of studying (when graduation is here and I don't need to worry about school/finals) I will take normal PTs (probably 2-4 a week) whatever time allows. A lot of personal stuff with family has been coming up among other things so I can never FULLY sit down for a FULL PT without getting interrupted :/.. With school finals/research papers, work, and etc. I just get too many interruptions >.<.. Do you think a month is enough to build a mental stamina?

I have a friend who's reapplying to his school of choice for next cycle, but he's not sure if he needs to rewrite his PS or get new LORs. He's convinced that the only reason he didn't get in was due to his score (145), and intends to take the test again in Oct. I can't answer this question myself since my application is under reevaluation and I didn't have to "apply" a second time. I was wondering if anyone on here might know something about applicants applying to the same school 2 maybe even 3 times?

Hey, guys!

I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with the Law School Prep course here at 7Sage. I love the community, the program is amazing, and I'd like to continue supporting this program as it supports my growth and ability to do well in law school. I've watched all the free videos, and I'm confident that my familiarity with 7Sage will be a nice fit with the Law School Prep Courses offered. However, What does it include that programs like "Barbri" and "Mini Review" do not? Maybe this is the wrong section for this, and maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I'm not exactly sure what to look for. Am I looking for just practice exams at issue-spotting? Am I looking for more than that? Will I need to go beyond 7Sage like some others do for the LSAT prep course (LSAT Trainer mixed with 7Sage)? I love 7Sage, and I trust their product, I just want a bit of a nudge haha! Hope all the waiters are dying with anxiety like I am :D! Good luck to those studying! This is an awesome course.

Hello, everyone!

I hope your LSAT studying is tedious and unfun! Just Kidding!

I've been keeping away from the forums as of late because they are sort of a huge distraction when I'm trying to study (4 Weeks left:() So I'm coming here for what I expect (but don't quote me on it) to be my last call for help. I've analyzed my first REAL LSAT exam and previous ones, and they all point towards the same direction, RC. I can average less than -5 in LG and around -7/8 in LR, but my RC is horrendous. I unusually get half right and half wrong (which is weird because I use to do well on AP English exams in high school.) Whatever the reason for this drop, I need a remedy. I used Manhattan LR (going to re-read and hopefully get an average of -5 before the exam), and I'm going to continue studying LG through 7Sage, but I need another perspective if I want to get better in RC. I need to at least cut my wrong answers in half to get a 160+ before June. I've been going through the history of the forums for a couple of hours, and there's not a clear cut answer I can find between LSAT Trainer vs Manhattan RC. I get the hint that LSAT Trainer is better for RC of the two, so I was wondering if anyone else had any input. This should be my last purchase and book being read before I take the LSAT. I have amazon prime, but time is still of the essence! Any speedy response/input would be greatly appreciated!

About a month ago I purchased the 7Sage Law School Prep Course and got a bit of the way through it. At the begining it's mostly Larry, (the instructor) explaining how law school works and breaking down any misconceptions about how law school actually works. I've had the luxury of knowing individuals in 3L at the law school I intend to go to, explain to me how law school works. Larry is pretty spot on with most of it, but then again, I may have just totally ignorant of the obvious, as I let the LSAT consume me for the better part of a year. It was only $99 and I fully intend to finish the course, but will it help me? Some people say they did nothing before law school (including the 3L I spoke to about law school, in fact, she TOLD me to just enjoy my last summer). I'm just worried about issue spotting, and Larry REALLY emphasizes the importance of being good at it. If I want to be ahead of everyone in my class, the sooner I can issue spot better than most, I'm ahead of the game, right? I know it sounds sadistic, but I'm just thinking about my future! I know most of you guys are still studying the LSAT and haven't looked past that, yet. If anyone has more knowledge/opinion, please don't hesitate to respond! Love you all!

Hello!

I've been reading around to see if there's a reliable way to see which section of the exam is the experimental. Apparently in today's times it is incredibly unreliable to tell which section it is. It could be any of the 5 sections, because they no longer default to keeping it in the first 3 sections. I feel like my test score is going to be made or broke (overall I think I still did better than last time) by which LG section was the experimental (If I am disclosing too much info then I'll quickly delete/edit this post.) One of the sections felt no different than any other LG section I had done, then the next one felt extremely foreign. I was able to figure out the games, but my confidence in some of the answer choices wasn't very high. Also, the formatting is extremely shitty when it comes to reading the answers in some LGs. I mean, we are already pressed for time, and having to take even a couple of extra seconds to decipher what is being read can throw people off. I kind of get it in the sense that it can weed people out (i.e. not let any average Joe who didn't study much easily read it) but still.

Yay it's over! For now...

I think it would be fun/funny to list the types of people you see/listen to when you're at your LSAT testing site on test day.

I'll list a couple of people to start it off.

Ditcher: This guy has no idea why he's there or if he's even ready. As soon as his name is called during attendance he gets up and says "I'm not ready for this, I shouldn't be here, good luck everyone." Making other students a bit more anxious than they were already.

That Guy: This is the guy (I say guy because I've never seen a girl do this, and I took the test twice) during break, who talks about the LSAT like it's no big deal. He barely studied for it because it's just so simple or he doesn't take it seriously. He says this while laughing and shrugs it off like it isn't a big deal. After the exam is finished he walks away with a look of defeat on his face.

Freaked Out: These are the people who are obsessing over the test during their break (they are usually a bit vocal). They feel defeated and want to cancel their score. Some do and some don't, but it doesn't make others any less anxious.

Pencil Person: This is the person who taps their pencil every so often and it's a bit distracting. They also tend to cross out answers like an angry 5 year old scribbling in a coloring book. Out of all the people, these may be the worst.

The Nail Biter (this is me): I bite my nails to keep the rest of my nerves under control. It may be distracting, but I'm not sure if it is because I never noticed anyone else doing it.

I'm sure there are plenty of others. Feel free to post some if you've experienced similar/other possibilities!

I'm taking a break from watching worlds/ studying for contracts to say, good luck!

Don't tilt, if something frustrates you or distracts you, take a second to take a deep breath and stay focused.

Once you're in law school, the LSAT and all of the struggles will be a distant memory!

The real journey hasn't even started :P!

Well, everyone, I did it. I got the score required to get me into the school I'd like to go to. Ultimately I'm still not sure how I feel about it. For those of you who know my story, I'll make this brief. My first time taking the exam I received a 147. It destroyed me. I remember I was playing ranked and just straight up afked and curled into a ball (kudos to those who get the reference.)

LG killed me on this exam and the exam I took prior to this one. I'm not exactly sure why? It is literally always my best section on PTs (-2, -3, -5 MAX). Sure I have a few off exams, but it was never a huge issue. Anyway, on this exam I did better on LR/RC, this exam I didn't panic or freak when I hit difficult questions or felt pressured. I had been here before and I knew how to handle it. So far I applied to 2 law schools (with my previous score) and both of them are over an hour away, very very expensive, and offer very low amounts of living wage aid. In all honesty, even with my Hyundai Veloster, I don't think I'd be able to afford annual gas costs. You may be asking why I put myself in this situation, and my answer is that I didn't perform well on the last exam and then, there's my family.

So, I was a bit lucky. I was given a chance to retake the exam and possibly get another shot at my school if seats were not full. I wasn't promised anything but, hope, however small, widened my eyes and made me hit the books (well I used the Internets, I only used one book and that was the LSAT Trainer, LOL) again. This time I had 5 classes, and a crap load of other responsibilities. My family played a huge guilt trip on me. My grandfather bought me a car (the Hyundai Veloster). This was something he had saved/planned for since I was a kid, but he was using it as leverage with law school because he thinks if I take a year off he won't be around to see me graduate. This killed me. My father threatened to charge a lot for rent, to the point where I'd "barely be able to study" (whatever that means) and also played the guilt card with my grandfather. My uncle did the same with guilting me about my grandfather. Every time I brought up waiting a year, I was dismissed without further discussion. My girlfriend supported me, but I felt alone on an island overall. From my understanding, family support during law school is very important. Yet, I couldn't garner any support pre-law school. This frustrated me. This is MY future. They all dismissed any advice from people I quoted on 7Sage, my counselor from undergrad (who went to law school, practiced, and now is in charge of pre-law advising at my school.) No matter who it was and no matter the credentials, they did not care. I even tried to have a friend of mine (who they knew well) explain it to them. He took a year off to study for the GMAT, got a 700, and went to Minnesota for a masters in business (graduated top of his class), and is now going to Georgetown for a masters in finance. Once again, his words did not stick.

This is a rare opportunity, though. My score, although it may be too late for my desired school, is good enough for the next cycle and I may be able to leverage that to take a year off. There is absolutely no reason for me to put myself in huge debt for a year, possibly screw up, and not be allowed to ultimately transfer to the school that is not only a lot more practical, but better for my future (my desired school is 5 minutes away, I completed my undergrad there, is SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER, more living wage money for assurance, and has a lot more job opportunity post-grad.) I think this argument will leverage pretty well, because it's tangible and backed by my current score (previously they thought if I wait to take the exam I may fuck up and screw myself in the long run.) I can then study AGAIN for the exam and possibly do a hell of a lot better, and get better scholarships. Also, during my year off I can pay the capital on my student loan and slowly pay that off as well. What's your advice, everyone? I know a lot of this stuff may be too much for a 7Sage forum, but I feel if I ask for advice all details should be on the table.

Tl;DR Not sure how to feel, got desired score but felt I could have done better if I wasn't pressured/forced by my family to rush it. Can possibly use my current score to leverage taking a year off if seats are full, and can study to get more scholarship money and not put myself more in debt just to save a year.

I'd also like to take the time to thank 7Sage for everything it has given me. I would not be where I am today without you guys to guide me through this journey. I'd also be broke as hell. I have more to say, but's for a later time and another post <3.

I thought this would be a cool way to outline our priorities and maybe exchange ideas on what to review/go over :D!

-Last Week of LSAT Prep-

-As Much as possible of LG Bundle (2nd Time Around)

-Go Over PTs (Late 60s/Early 70s ESPECIALLY PT 74)

-PT 72/73 (After Reading Jon's Post I've decided I'll take one of these on Tuesday) BR and review should be good enough!

-Cambridge RC Packets

-Review 7Sage Lessons (LG/LR) -- LSAT Trainer Lessons (RC/LR)

-Sleep/Eat (I Sort of forget to do these 2 things, hehe)

Happy Posting :D!