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I started studying in February (Taking the October test, fees paid ;) I've completed all of the course material and now am working through the PTs from oldest to most recent. My average on my PTs is 163 which I'm okay with. 153 on my first diagnostic. I've taken 11 PTs now so It's a pretty solid average I believe (159 worst -166 best). My question is for those who have taken a recent test... I've heard that the tests are changing, especially the logic games with the reintroduction of maps, circles etc., Has anyone taken a recent test that can compare it to tests in the 50-60 range? I'm confident in my abilities as long as they haven't gone and introduced something crazy that my fundamentals haven't prepared me for. I'm saving the 70s tests for the last two weeks. Just trying to get some insight into what lies ahead ;) Cheers
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Thanks all. So I've done about 12 PTs so far. My PT average is about 162/163. When I do my blind review what I'm finding is I'm glancing over the question stem to fast and making careless mistakes. For instance.. All of the following strengthen EXCEPT. I'll grab one that strengthens because I quit reading after I saw strengthen. Things like that I'm hoping I can correct easily. I've thought maybe I should highlight the question type "strengthen/EXCEPT" for example in that one so I don't make those mistakes. I caught myself make the exact same mistake in an LG yesterday which caused me some points. I'm hoping tightening that up will get me a few extra points. As for 3 a weeks!!! You guys are monsters lol I'm an active duty Marine with a family so getting in 2 a week takes a lot for me. My goal is to break 160 so I'm hoping as I get closer I see my PT average around 165ish. Cheers
Phew ... it's a lot, though. Take care of yourself and learn the early signs of burnout. I've been doing 3-a-weeks for ... oh ... a couple months now and it's hard to get the balance right.
@leonsmoney936 PT 75 was released a couple of weeks ago. I thought I'd mention it because I don't see it in your schedule.
I am not sure where you are in your prep or how many PTs you have, but if you could do 3 PTs a week instead of 2 it would be better. Doing at least 3 a week helped me get a great "LSAT intuition" and sense for the test's timing (when to move on, when to dwell, when to go back). You can take a test one day, review the next day, and repeat.
I've got 10 weeks left, I think I'm going to proceed as follows: take an older test on Wednesday (review thur and Fri) newer test on Saturday (review Sunday/Monday)
Week 10 #53 & 65
Week 9 #54 & 66
Week 8 #55 & 67
Week 7 #56 & 68
Week 6 #57 & 69
Week 5 #58 & 70
Week 4 #59 & 71
Week 3 #60 & 72
Week 2 #61 & 73
Week 1 #62 & 74
(74 would be taken 2 days before real test as I'm taking it on Monday Oct 5th. Nondisclosed on a military base is the reason.)
How does that schedule look?
@2543.hopkins I'm sure you would have a huge increase from the first time! Maybe it was a risk but retaking it made me feel really good going into June's test, like whatever I wasn't getting before, I did get now. Oddly enough I scored +2 from my 72 score on the Feb lsat and +2 from my second 72 score on the June (scaled not raw).
Now that's a scary thought!
@mpits001889 what was your most difficult test?
@gs556950 lol. A "sage" says over-hyped! What about for us common folk? 72 was the stuff of nightmares the first time around and I didn't even realize it when I was taking it. The second time I had taken like 15 tests in between so I don't think I remembered the answers (especially since I didn't properly review it after the first) but it just made more sense to me. Maybe a better way to put it is 72 is a good measure of your readiness!
Lr was the worst I had ever scored. Not sure why, just didn't click for me.
I did terrible timed on PT72 (158) but I did fine on blind review (168). It's a tough test but not the hardest imo
There you go. I actually only missed 2 on the last game the first time I took PT72 ... So there IS some sense to be made of it. I'm not one of those ridiculous games people who does a section in 20 minutes. I'm just a joe-schmo.
For many of us, we saw scores we do not customarily see. I hesitate to dismiss the statistics—likewise, the individuals who endured the shock of the experience. For some reason, the test (which also had some challenging RC antics) caught many of us who are exceedingly diligent off-guard.
PT72 is over-hyped... It just has an unusual game which is why it's perceived as unusually hard. From an emotional/psychological perspective I think it's good advice to not do it a few days before you sit for the real thing. However, If there's one thing you can learn from PT 72 it's how NOT to panic because you don't recognize what you're reading. Stick to your fundamentals, always! The logic is always the same.
Omg #72 was the exam I took. Worst. Worst. Worst. Never have I NOT finished a LG question before.
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@2543.hopkins
Is LG the section in 72, which makes the exam harder than usual, or is the LR very hard as well?
@2543.hopkins is right on 72! Skip it, seriously that test shattered my confidence before feb 2015. I was scratching my head thinking there must be something I did worng to score 10pts lower than usual. Nope, just got them all wrong. I retook just for fun before June test and scored in the high 160s, but never did figure out a good way for that last puzzle...
If you're ready, you're ready. I think a mindful and holistic approach leading up to test day is pretty much a win-win situation. If you're in the position of needing to "check" if you're "scoring in your desired range" then my thought is that you probably haven't really maximized your potential. For folks who are studying for 4 months, ok, that makes sense. I'm in favor of playing the long game and preparing so deeply that you won't wonder whether you should withdraw and waste that $175. Saving a couple of PT's and getting the right numbers shouldn't really be the indication of readiness, IMO.
as far as PT72 goes ... you'll know.
@alexandergreene93842 - That could be good. As long as the bulk of the most recent material isn't left for the last minute, you should be in the clear.
@coreyjanson479 What do you think about completing 70-72 early and saving 73-75 for the last three weeks?
@alexandergreene93842 - You can get an accurate prediction of your test day performance by reserving one or two of the 70s for the weeks leading up to the test. Wanting an accurate predictor simply doesn't justify leaving every single one of the most recent test for the last 2 weeks. During the last 2 weeks, you're unlikely to have time to adjust your methods and achieve consistency. Ideally, you won't be adjusting anything in the last 2 weeks. Ideally, you'll only be solidfying well practiced strategies. Some have noticed a drop in score, others have not, but why risk something like that (potentially worrisome/demoralizing) in the last weeks before the test? You should want exposure to the most representative material throughout your prep process.
@coreyjanson479 If you complete the 70s long before the exam, how will you know what range you will score in on test day. The reason JY says to save the most recent exams for the weeks leading up to the exam is so you will be able to predict what your score will be.
@2543.hopkins - Finally someone said it outright! I really feel like the conventional wisdom of chronological order is bad advice and I'm going to start shouting it from the rooftops.
@leonsmoney936- I believe she is saying don't leave the 70s for the last 2 weeks per the quote.
Agreed, Nicole. I won't be saving those for the last two weeks any longer. I'm going to be working in a new one each week during this last 10 weeks to give myself time to make any necessary adjustments. @alexandergreene93842 That was exactly what I was trying to find out originally LOL. It seems to be the general consensus that the writing is clearer, with more trick answers and reintroduction of older style games.