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Thursday, Oct 29 2015

For what it's worth, I scored 5 points under my average on test day because of lack of sleep and burnout.

So you would be doing yourself a huge favour by not doing that many PTs, and taking a break here and there. It's something that I wish I did.

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Saturday, Oct 24 2015

For Ontario based schools, everything is due November 1st.

It's best to tell your LORs that you need them to mail it by the 28th, to give a bit of time to get to OLSAS.

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Saturday, Oct 24 2015

Slow down a bit. I used to get so focused on running out of time, however when I would do sections without looking at my watch, I noticed I always still made time.

Constantly analyzing your watch leads to nothing but anxiety, which can hinder your full thought process. I know this is easier said than done, on test day I had a bad case of constantly looking at my watch during RC, which made me panic, and low and behold the last RC section just pooped on me.

Maybe not postpone until February yet. Wait until the week before the LSAT, and if you haven't hit your goal score at least 5 times, don't take it. However if you do hit your goal score, don't get over confident. I did, and it bit me in the ass hard. 30+ PTs hitting my goal score, missed it on test day.

Focus hard on your mistakes, and keep calm, and you got this :)

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nathanfabiano666
Saturday, Oct 24 2015

This is very informative. Thank you for this.

One thing to mention too is that a lot of the 2nd tier schools focus heavily on your GPA in your last two (L2) years of school. For example, it's become apparent that Queen's has started to look primarily at your L2 GPA when it comes to admitting, especially if it is higher than your cGPA. I know that Western really puts a lot of emphasis on your L2, but looks at your cGPA as well.

3.7L2 seems to be the the sweet spot for these schools particularly.

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Friday, Oct 23 2015

I did 40 PTs. Got my goal score or over on 37 of those PTs.

Test day, I vastly under preformed. Nervousness is a thing, anxiety is a thing, sleep deprivation is a thing, burnout is a thing.

For example. I just did a fresh and timed RC section. Went -4. On test day I went -12 on RC.

Thus what I'm going to be doing is just zoning in on my weaknesses. Doing timed sections and focusing on my wrong questions. Before when I BR'd LR, if I still got the question wrong I wouldn't bother trying to review it. So long as my BR score was 23/25, I'd forget about it.

I plan on doing only one PT a week from now until the test. Drill your weaknesses, review the lessons on your weaknesses, and keep calm.

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Monday, Oct 05 2015

I'm pretty sure I got that question, but it took me a while.

People seemed to misread one of the rules, but for me I found the stimulus itself to sort of be convoluted.

Needless to say that question took me a lot of time to do. Any inferences you could make from the rules flew over my head, which caused me to have to spend a loooooooot of time on each individual question. If the questions before it weren't easy(er), I definitely would have bombed it. Just one of those LG games that you need to allocate a lot of time to.

It was a hard question. Less so the game itself, but it was just worded so weird. I find it so strange that so many people from all spectrums of PT averages messed it up. Would that not question not have come up as a problem in a past experimental?

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Sunday, Oct 04 2015

I'm not sure about the deadline, but I know there's a window for requests after the scores are up.

So personally I'm just waiting for my score.

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Sunday, Oct 04 2015

I too changed a bunch of answers, but i'm not too worried. If anything you can pay the LSAC to hand grade it (which I will be doing solely because I had a bad experience with scantrons in undergrad).

So I mean an LSAC rep will be reasonable. Say you erased A and put B, but they look identical, you probably will lose the mark. But say A is grayed out and B is clearly marked in a lot thicker than A, you should be fine.

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Sunday, Oct 04 2015

I would just retake them. Make a note on the questions that you remember the answer to, and adjust your final score based on how you see fit. I usually subtract 2 or 3 points from my retake score, depending on how many questions I remembered

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@ the

Same test layout, felt the same about each section, remember the hissing question. I got shrek'd by that LR section. I honestly felt it was harder than normal.

Please LSACgod be the experimental section. My entire score is relying on that being the EXP hahaha. It's the difference between me getting a 165 and sub-160.

I think it was graded though. Let's just hope lady luck was on my side.

EDIT: or maybe my 3rd LR section did have the hissing and not the 2nd. Who knows. I need to stop thinking about it hahaha.

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@ the

Feel the exact same. After the 1st section I had two LR's back to back before the break. Both were 26 questions, and the one before the break was, at least in my opinion, very challenging.

I hope that was the EXP, because if not I know for a fact that section killed my score.

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@.awt exp

What do you mean by 2 questions on one prompt? Like a single page had only two questions on it? There's been some PTs with 2 questions on one page before (ie. PT02).

All I know is that one of my LR sections had like 4 of the same question types in succession. I'm hoping that was the EXP one.

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

From looking at other forums, a lot of people who consistently PT well felt that it was fairly difficult in one respect or another.

Hopefully the curve is favorable. I'm predicting a curve just like PT 71, as I felt the test resembled that one fairly well. And judging by most reactions, it seems like it will be scaled in such a way

160: 72 : 165: 79

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

I feel so weird. Particularly about 1 logical reasoning section.

Needless to say, I just booked my December rewrite. Hoping that it doesn't have to come to that, but I know for a fact I only under-preformed because I got 3 hours of sleep last night. My brain literally went to mush on that LR section.

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nathanfabiano666
Thursday, Oct 01 2015

Thank you for the words of encouragement. I got 166,165,165,164 on my last 4 preptest, but today I got a 160 flat. Really discouraging, what do you recommend I do?

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Saturday, Sep 26 2015

I always put it before my worst section (RC).

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Friday, Sep 25 2015

You sound exactly like me. It was all sunshine and jager shots for weeks. Would get either 164, 165, or 166 on every preptest.

Then, burnout came. My scores just started getting shrek'd. Like I would either JUST hit 160, or sometimes dip under.

"How could this happen to me, I've made my mistakes, got no where to run.. life goes on as I'm fading away" I thought to myself.

I was studying 8 hours a day every single day for 2 months. Neglected my friends, family, and even myself. "Take a break" they said. But I thought the idea of a break was dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Arnold (aka Schwarz-god) never took a break", I replied.

But then I said yolo. Went out with my friends two nights in a row. Didn't get so obliterated that I couldn't remember my name, but I just had fun.

After those two days, I felt refreshed. Boom, my scores went back up. Last 5 preptests since then have been 164,166,166,165,165.

So yes, it's definitely burn out. It's good that you recognized it now. Go spend some times with your friends and forget the entire LSAT for bare minimum one day. It'll do wonders.

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Wednesday, Sep 02 2015

Honestly there's no 'sure fire' way of doing Reading Comprehension. For me, I just had to drill various methods until I found one that worked consistently.

For me, I look at the questions, write all of the "author/passage suggests" variables on the top of the passage, and then read. Then when I see one of those words, I summarize briefly on the side what is said about it.

This, I find, allows you to make sure you're not zoning in on minute details that won't come up on a question (which was my problem). But again, if your problem is not focusing on little details, this may not work for you.

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Tuesday, Sep 01 2015

*goes on Amazon and buys another LSAT watch out of pranoia*

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Tuesday, Sep 01 2015

Sorry to come in and hijack this thread, but I have this watch with the colored sections. Can I use that on test day?

http://lsatwatch.webs.com

It says LSAC approved as of 2014, but nothing's changed drastically since then, right?

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nathanfabiano666
Tuesday, Sep 01 2015

Ahhhh, I feel like it might be burn out too. I normally study 4 hours in the morning and 4 at night, but two nights ago I took the night off to combat my burn out. It seemed to work... until my recent PT score haha.

I guess I just fear that it's not burn out and that the day I take off to rest could be the day that I would have learned how to do RC better. Before I was going avg -7, took time off to drill, bumped it up to average -5, maintained this -5 average over two days, doing probably 4 passages a day, and now I'm at the like -12 point.

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Tuesday, Sep 01 2015

nathanfabiano666

Losing Reading Comprehension Ability

2 post in one day, I know, I'm sorry.

SO after PTing consistently in the mid 160s, I've started to crumble. My last PT's have been 159, 162 and 161 respectively. (60, 61, 62).

"But that's an average variance in test scores" one might say. Not necessarily. For LR I'm doing better than when I was in the mid 160s, for LG I'm doing the same, but I'm bombing Reading Comprehension every time, once even going -15. I drilled the hell out of RC for a week, using 'newer' (55 and on) sections, and consistently got only -5. After drilling, I decided to do preptest 62 today. The only reason I scored so low on reading comp was because I spent way too much time on passage 3, which caused me to completely miss a section. When I repeated the specific passage that I missed under timed constraints, I only got 1 wrong.

So tonight, unbelievably stressed, I've been trying to drill reading comp again, and have been failing miserably. I have spent the last 5 hours drilling RC, on top of doing a full 5-section test this morning.

I seem to 'forget' how to do reading comprehension. It's almost like I've lost everything I've built up.

What should I do? I'm getting extremely nervous as test day is soon. I was using JY's memory method, and it worked, but it's almost like Will Smith came up to me with that device from Men In Black and wiped my knowledge.

All of my other sections are always consistent but I'm afraid, because of my recent trends, RC will break me come test day.

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Monday, Aug 31 2015

Hmm, I'm just sort of wondering if it's even worth explaining and getting the documentation. Like my cumulative isn't THAT bad, but there is a huge jump between my first two and last two which is explained by this.

Just don't know if it's even worth explaining or not, regardless of if I'm taken under 'special considerations' or just a general applicant.

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Monday, Aug 31 2015

nathanfabiano666

Special Considerations

So I'm starting to prepare my law school applications, and I have a question about bringing up "special considerations". For myself, it has to do about my cGPA being on the lower side while my L2 is above the average for all of the law schools I'm concerned with. Keep in mind that I am Canadian/applying to Canadian schools.

In particular, from gr.12 up to about the end of my second year of university, my father was overcoming a disease that would render him bedside for several days. I went to school away from home, and on weekends I often traveled back home to help take care of my brother, whom has spina bifida and is a paraplegic. I'm a first generation student and the son of immigrants, so my father and mother always wanted to make sure I succeeded in school so I could fulfill my dream of going to law school, as they didn't have the economic resources to go to post-secondary. Thankfully, my father fully recovered when I was entering my 3rd year. Thus I no longer had weight on my mind, and didn't go home as much to help out. My grades drastically increased.

Now are schools going to require medical documentation of bother my father and brothers conditions? Will they require bus/train receipts to show that I actually went home a fair amount? Or are special considerations done more so on the honour system, where I won't have to provide any documentation? This adversity will mostly be described in my Personal Statement.

Getting notes from a doctor will be no problem, just we have no actual documentation saying that his disease went away. Also, things like travel receipts will be near impossible to obtain.

Thanks for the assistance!

EDIT: Incase it's not clear, going home to take care of my brother rendered me with not a lot of time to do work. And obviously knowing that your family cannot sustain itself because your father is bedridden brings an emotional burden alongside it as well that made it hard for me to focus.

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Sunday, Aug 30 2015

I literally did nothing but logic games for 3 weeks, and was able to get up from -10 to an average of -1.

However, you should always keep up with your skills once they're acquired. I made the mistake of not practicing logic games for a bit, and saw myself drifting away from my -1 average and more towards -3.

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