User Avatar
poleary17519
Joined
Apr 2025
Subscription
Free
User Avatar
poleary17519
Tuesday, Dec 06 2016

@ Wow, lots of information thanks!

I honestly can't believe there was a situation in which they actually added points, that's crazy! 1 or 2 points for 25 lost minutes seems like an awful trade though.

And I agree, I thought why not just set it back to where he told LSAC the distraction started? I highly doubt any test takers would have complained. Our proctor was super by-the-book though and I am sure if LSAC had said for him to jump off a cliff he would have.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Tuesday, Dec 06 2016

It was in Ontario, Canada.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Tuesday, Dec 06 2016

@ 1. Do I need to write a separate addendum if my scores are wildly disparate (most schools want this if they are but if LSAC already explains it should I also do so?)?

2. It will be a little bit funny if I did worse today because then the letter from LSAC on my difficult situation will accompany my better score.

I would really like to know this too!

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Tuesday, Dec 06 2016

@ Sorry to hear about your experience and thank you for the input! Do you think there was any value in having the letter in your file? Do schools actually look at that?

LSAC sent me a few emails today saying they received my complaint, have put my file on hold and will review the case. Honestly it seems like LSAC will offer the same deal you got, which I think is certainly not enough given how much time, effort and money goes into preparing and writing the test!

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Tuesday, Dec 06 2016

@ The reason I do not want to cancel is that outside the 1 RC passage that I was on when he starting yelling I do not feel my performance was negatively impacted. I feel extremely confident about the test as a whole and think even with the distraction I was still able to surpass my target score. Additionally, at the end of the day I would rather not have to write again as that would mean another 2 months of preparing, and going through the whole writing process again. Ideally my score will be my target or higher and I never have to think about the LSAT again!

@ We wrote on a university campus in a classroom that had been booked for the day. In fact many of the rooms in the building were being used for other uses at the same time, including one directly across the hall from ours. There was a sign on the door, and the proctors marked the area off but unfortunately there was not much that could have been done to keep him or really anyone out. It wasn't even possible to lock the door! Hopefully LSAC will take better steps to ensure their testing sites cannot be so easily compromised, either through selecting better sites, increased security or specific protocols that enable proctors to be better prepared to deal with crazy situations.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Monday, Dec 05 2016

@ do you know if they found out his personal information? i'm really hoping they have his name.

Yes, thankfully they have his name as he was signed up for the LSAT. Wonder if LSAC will ban him from ever writing in the future.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Sunday, Dec 04 2016

@

I was wondering if this would show up on 7sage, my friend was in that classroom as well (Waterloo). I feel awful for you guys, if there is any way we can make a petition or something, I would definitely wish to help in any was possible. If they don't give you a chance to re-write, at the very least, they should not count it towards one of the three and waive the fee for February.

I emailed LSAC yesterday, and hopefully they will do an investigation. The proctor filed a report and seemed to be on our side (petitioned for more time, gave us the name of the security officers for our complaints, etc.) and I am sure if enough people complain they will have to do something. So make sure your friend writes/calls to complain too!

I feel lucky that my entire test was not thrown, but I feel absolutely awful for those in the room that were unable to continue after such a traumatic event. Especially since once he came in the room this guy was verbally abusing the proctor and students using extremely vulgar language. My girlfriend, who wrote yesterday in a different location, said that if she had been there her whole test would have been lost.

Either way I will be fighting until I get some type of answer, and demanding either a refund for having to deal with such a ridiculous situation or a free retake and the option to scratch this test from our records. Obviously they can't control something like this from happening but things they could control were 1. organized better security (I heard in Toronto a few of the testing centres had 'bouncers') or 2. granted us more time when our 'by-the-book' veteran LSAC proctor is saying we need it and that in his many years with LSAC has never seen anything this bad. Altogether I think we have sufficient (lol) grounds to complain and I do expect LSAC to do something.

1
User Avatar
poleary17519
Sunday, Dec 04 2016

@.rizeq Please keep us updated and I'm so sorry for your experience!

Will certainly update my OP and this thread if I get any!

1
User Avatar
poleary17519
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

For today's LSAT I walked in at 8:30 am and left at 1:40 pm.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

@ Holy crap. Dude, I'm sorry. Totally wouldn't have, but were he to get in my face, I wish I would've done this...

People were quite angry, I'm honestly surprised no one attacked him. If only 7Sage taught self defense! Haha

@

said:

You are extremely likely (along with other takers) to be given a free take for the next possible LSAT, February. They will conduct an investigation whether you report this or not as many other test takers in that room will file a complaint. Sounds like a nightmare scenario!

That would be great, hopefully I don't need it though. Any chance they would consider the test compromised or anything like that and cancel test for everyone?

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

@ Yeah I don't think it would hurt.

It's great that you're feeling good in spite of this,

but it sucks that you did almost certainly lose out on even more points! So yeah, if it's me, I'd probably sign up for February and double down for an even better score. Plus, if you improve enough that you need to write addendum to explain the discrepancy, you've got a fantastic story!

Can thank 7Sage for that!

Even in the short time-frame I hope my educated guesses were strong enough to not lose out on the whole passage + questions. It is quite the story, that's for sure. I would probably be in a different mood if the rest of the test hadn't gone well though!

Thanks again for your help!

1
User Avatar
poleary17519
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

@ I think this seems very reasonable to expect. What I'd really be interested in though is having this take not counting as one of my three. Personally, I'd be requesting that this entire test be dismissed from my record, but that would require losing the score. That's a really tough call if you're applying this cycle though. I can guarantee you that this cost you points, and you don't want to apply with a score that falls below your potential. I don't know. They have re-administered tests before due to disruptions. I don't know if this will qualify, but if there are enough complaints it seems like a strong case could be made.

Hope all this turns out in the end.

Thanks for the input!

Ya it was crazy, everyone was looking at each other like "is this actually happening?"

Do you think it would be smart to sign up for February, wait for my score, and then decide then? I am confident I got a high enough score to get in where I wanted, so am hesitant to have the score wiped, but at the same time likely lost out on an even higher score.

0
User Avatar
poleary17519
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

@ Thanks!

In your unconfirmed section you list "-Teenage Morning Driving Accidents / School Start Times".

I had two LR and can confirm that is real.

0

Hello!

I was wondering if anyone has an experience that can shed some light on how I should move forward regarding how LSAC deals with issues that occur during testing.

Everything was running smoothly until about 8 minutes remaining in the first section. Someone who was signed up for the LSAT showed up around 9:15 am (late), claiming they were in a car accident and were told they could not write the test.

He responded poorly and consequently went on his phone right outside the testing room door screaming and directing insults and taunts at our proctor, obviously trying to intentionally sabotage/distract those writing. This went on for about 3 minutes and the proctors repeatedly told him to leave the testing area, keep his voice down, etc. Eventually he even opened the door and starting directly screaming into the room. At this point almost every test writer yelled at him to leave as well. Timer was still running at this point.

Things then escalated even further at the 5 minute warning, where he ran into the testing room and began screaming and videotaping everyone with his phone. He moved between everybody screaming loudly that he should be allowed to write and that he was being mistreated. He even grabbed a few peoples watches while they were writing and many times directly challenged various test takers, getting in their faces. This continued for about a minute, at which point the proctor paused the timer (at 3 mins 58 seconds).

Eventually security came, but he ran away only to come back into the room a few minutes later. At least at this point the timer had been paused. It then took another 10 mins or so to ensure the disruption was totally over and then another 15 mins for our proctor to call LSAC to see how to move forward. Ultimately they told him to resume where we left off (31 min mark) despite his pleas to rewind the clock to the 27 min point (or 8 mins remaining).

Aside from the obvious distraction and large loss of time, this large break also made the remaining questions difficult, especially those who had RC first. I essentially had to re-read and answer the questions for the final RC passage in 4 mins, given the distraction occurred when I was only halfway through the passage.

Would there be any benefit for me to call and complain? I am assuming they do not alter score as a result of external circumstances? I do not wish to cancel/get a refund, but would they potentially grant me free admission to the February test?

Tl;dr: Somone who was late for the LSAT ran into the classroom we were writing, screaming and videotaping people and cost us 4 mins of test writing. What should I do?

1

Confirm action

Are you sure?