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PT111.S1.Q17
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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Nov 30 2022

I don't think the instructor understood C the way most of us did.

What I understood from C is:

C) "Establishing that a certain event occurred the event is the ice melted 3 million years ago is confused with having established the cause of that event causes of ice melting being either severe climatic warning or volcanic activity

In other words, C is saying that:

The argument is most vulnerable to criticism because the author is establishing in it's conclusion that the ice melted 3 million years ago but based on a premise of what could have caused the ice to melt, being one of 2 options either / or for severe climatic warning or volcanic activity

Ok so what is the problem with C?

Because we did NOT establish that a certain event occurred. Meaning, we did NOT establish that the ice melted. If we did, we would have accepted the conclusion and would be done for the day. But we do not accept the conclusion, rather the premise, and then try to see a flaw in the gap to the conclusion.

Ok. I think that explains better to me, hope it helps someone too.

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PT111.S1.Q5
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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Nov 30 2022

The opponent is directly attacking the proponent's last statement:

Proponent: "it [irradiation] kills harmful Salmonella bacteria, which in contaminated poultry have caused serious illness to consumers."

Opponent: "Salmonella and the bacteria that cause botulism can easily be killed using a safe chemical dip."

E says "pointing out an alternative way of obtaining an advantage claimed by the proponent without risking a particular disadvantage."

In other words:

"pointing out an alternative way the alternative way is the chemical dip instead of irradiation of obtaining an advantage killing salmonella claimed by the proponent without risking a particular disadvantage disadvantage of irradiation is that it does not kill botulism, but safe chemical dip does."

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robertafrossard1218
Thursday, Sep 29 2022

Don't waste time reading books about RC because you don't have time and ultimately you are not getting practice. Do RC drills with passages that are mid and high level of difficulty (I think all of us should be good with the super easy ones). Practice your reading pace and focus on the questions you got wrong.

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robertafrossard1218
Friday, Oct 28 2022

I would cancel November. work on your applications and study for the test so you can still apply for the same cycle as people who take it in November

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robertafrossard1218
Thursday, Nov 24 2022

I also heard that it's going to be removed and LG is also my best section. But, because we are almost in December, I am going to make an assumption that it won't be removed in the January and February tests because that would be very last minute for an official LSAC announcement. So, if there is some major change in the exam like removing an entire section, I would expect an official announcement beforehand so that students can study accordingly.

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robertafrossard1218
Thursday, Sep 22 2022

Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week.

Let's try to rewrite the first part: the "which" refers to the first part of the sentence "unless Shiming's car is fixed". The "cannot" specifically refers to the "car is fixed". Meaning, the car cannot be fixed without the help.

This sentence can be translated to:

Without Steve's help, Shiming's car cannot be fixed. Unless Shiming's car is fixed, there will be no road trip next week.

Let's start in order.

Without Steve's help, Shiming's car cannot be fixed.

I will use "/" as a "no" like you did in the discussion post...

/Steve's help > /fixed

why did I do this? Because that's what the sentence says.

If no help, no car fixed. Simple... No need to switch things around here. Ok, next part of the sentence.

When translating "A unless B" statements: Negate A and maintain B. Examples:

a) I will wear my new jacket, unless it rains.

Not wear new jacket > rain

b) I will bring my dog to the vet, unless he fells better.

Not bring to the vet > feels better

In the same token, because you need to negate the "A" part, if the A part in the original statement is already a negation, then you need to make it positive. Examples:

a) I will not wear my new jacket, unless it rains.

Wear new jacket > rain

b) I will not bring my dog to the vet, unless he feels better.

Bring dog to the vet > feels better

So going back to the original statement:

Unless Shiming's car is fixed, there will be no road trip next week.

A unless B, which is the same as Unless B, A (which is the format for this sentence).

So, we want to negate "A" which is "there will be no road trip next week":

there will be NO road trip translates to "there WILL BE a road trip":

road trip > ???

we want to maintain the original "B" statement as is, so:

road trip > fixed

ok so now combining the two statements:

/Steve's help > /fixed

road trip > fixed

opppsiiieee.. We can't combine this way. So let's contrapositive either one of the statements so we can combine them:

/Steve's help > /fixed changes to fixed > Steve's help

so now combining:

road trip > fixed > help

the contrapositive is:

/help > /fixed > /road trip

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PT110.S3.Q25
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robertafrossard1218
Tuesday, Dec 20 2022

This is my logical thinking when approaching this question:

Jordan: there is if statements so I will write down a template that the answer choice must also have. Jordan says that:

if A → B

But if A → C

Terry replies:

If A is demanded → D

Terry is saying that if there is some outside source that triggers A, then don't worry because it won't hurt the businesses individually (D). Terry is saying that really there isn't a choice between A and A (not A).

So I start eliminating the answer choices in part. First I see which ones does NOT match Jordan's. I need to see something that does NOT give me

if A → B

But if A → C.

So I eliminate B and D:

I eliminate B because there is nothing like I diagrammed above. B is saying "either A or A, but what about B and C? so.. out.

I eliminated D because it's saying "if A then B. But even if we did A..." like, no, out.

Now I am left with A, C, E. I will eliminate based on Terry's reply.

I will keep A for now until I see C and E. Answer choice A somewhat matches the original but I am a bit skeptical because T is saying that

if A → D. But it's not like something else will trigger/demand A like in the original one does. So I will keep it but I would still like to see something better...

C: What Terry does here is, if we don't do neither A nor A. What??? you are introducing a third factor, like if we do X??? No. Out.

E: Terry is saying that

"the dam might burst" in Jordan's statement is C.

So T is saying: C won't happen. But if more rain (another factor??? if X???) then should do A.

Hmmm.. No???

So I will keep A as my answer choice.

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PT110.S3.Q20
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robertafrossard1218
Tuesday, Dec 20 2022

Premise: In authoritarian societies, the metaphor SHB is persuasive.

Conclusion: Therefore, the SHB metaphor [repress acceptance of authoritarianism], more than other metaphors (such as family).

Note that [repress acceptance of authoritarianism] in the conclusion is basically just saying that the metaphor is persuasive (re-instating the premise).

In other words:

Premise: In authoritarian societies, the metaphor SHB is persuasive.

Conclusion: Therefore, the SHB metaphor is persuasive, more than other metaphors (such as family).

Flaw:

Just because it is persuasive, does not mean it is more than other existing ones.

Well.... That's A.

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robertafrossard1218
Monday, Dec 19 2022

I will answer your questions but please also go to the link above.

I have an new 2021 Ipad with keyboard and want to make sure that’s compatible with taking the test.

NO. You CANNOT take the LSAT in a tablet, period. I also have an iPad Pro with apple keyboard and you CANNOT take the test in a tablet, again, perioddddt. You need to take the test in either a desktop (like an iMac) or a laptop (like a MacBook). You also need to be the administrator of the computer. For example, do not take it in a library computer because you are a "guest" and not the admin.

You need to have chrome or Firefox installed in your desktop or laptop and change your settings according to the lsac page (but don't worry so much about this because the proctor will be able to use your mouse and will change settings before you start the test). Just make sure you have most of it done.

Are there restrictions on where I can take the test? I dont have a place to take it at home so I’m looking into the best places for taking it that also satisfy all LSAC requirements (aka renting private study room in Library).

You cannot take it in a place where people are coming in and out and I would not risk taking it in a place where people talk. Even in a library, people will be talking, someone can knock the door, and I honestly would not add that factor to me being nervous for the test already. You should take it in your room at home. Ask your roommates/family members to leave the house for 3-4 hours during the day, take it in your room. trust me.

What am I allowed to bring with me? Ive been doing all my PTs with a blank piece of paper to write notes or draw diagrams but if im taking it online am I allowed to do that?

You are allowed to have 5 sheets of paper with you (lined, graph, blank, doesn't matter as long as there isn't stuff written in it, you will need to show your paper to your proctor). You can bring mechanical pencil or pen, eraser without sleeve, and a liquid in a clear bottle or glass (I had coconut water with me and removed the label from the bottle, it was a transparent bottle), and you can also have tissues. Also don't forget an ID that matches your name in your LSAC account! Student ID does NOT count.

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robertafrossard1218
Tuesday, Jul 19 2022

I would only do drills with the standard time (35 minutes) set since that's what we have in the real lsat.

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PT117.S3.Q16
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robertafrossard1218
Friday, Oct 14 2022

I didn't like approaching this question with conditional statements, it confused me even more and wasted too much time. So:

The passage is saying that:

Premise: If you are neither of these two, you won't be X.

Premise: Yet many X have just one of these two things.

Conclusion: To be X you don't need to be both of these two things.

To find the correct answer choice, we need to find a choice that matches perfectly with the passage above. BUT, the statements do not need to be in order (you can have conclusion first, then p2 then p1. The order doesn't matter but which one is premise and which one is conclusion and how they are formulated does matter).

In the answer choices, however, I always like to identify the conclusion first. So this is what I will do:

Answer choices:

A) Conclusion: Being both of these things is not necessary. (yes this short of matches the conclusion "to be X you don't need to be both of these two things.")

Premise: when this answer says "some distance runners, however, win by being only_" it's kind of saying "yet many X have just one of these two things." which matches one of the premises in the original passage.

Premise: "runners who have only average speed and endurance are unlikely to win long-distance races." this is saying that if you have only these 2 things, you won't be X. But remember, the premise before that just said that you can have just one of these things and be X, so of course to NOT be X you have neither of these two. Which matches above.

Also, I read the answer choices backwards. My mind works better my first finding the conclusion and then asking "why" and moving to premises. So I read the answer choice from last sentence to the first - sorry if it's confusing but I hope it helped someone out there :)

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PT114.S2.Q11
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robertafrossard1218
Thursday, Oct 13 2022

premise: computer → emotions

conclusion: computer → intelligence

the assumption is emotionsintelligence

or the contrapositive intelligence → emotions

the first sentence confirms this assumption by saying "human intelligence requires emotion" by using "humans" as an example.

The contrapositive of the assumption (intelligence → emotions) is what answer choice E states.

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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Oct 12 2022

Good luck!!

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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Oct 12 2022

There was a point that I was doing 1 section a day during my lunch break at work. I was working and studying full time so that's the only time I had to study. I did this way, because the moment I stop studying for a few days in a row, I lose momentum.

If I do 1 section of RC/LG/LR after not studying for a week, time will run out when I am in like Q18. When I do one section a day, which is a good pace at the time when I was working and studying full time, I am able to finish the section within the time and get a decent score. At this time, I was getting between 0 and -4 on LG, between -5 and -8 on RC, and between -5 and -8 on LR.

This is decent but still a lot to improve.

I quit my job and finished my master's and now I am dedicating 100% of my time do to LSAT. If I think about 1 test a day, it's actually not that much. It's 4 sections only. To not burn myself out, I like to do 2 sections in the morning, then I go to gym, make lunch, then come back and correct the sections. Then I will do the last 2 sessions in the afternoon, and do the corrections at night. I don't re-do the entire test doing blind review because honestly (my opinion) it's a waste of time. I look at the ones I got wrong, see why, then move on.

There are days that I do one practice without long breaks if I have to do something during the day. We are currently moving so I will wake up like 7am, eat breakfast and so on, then by 8:30am I will start a test and finish it by like 1pm - which then gives me time to do stuff in the afternoon. Then I will come back at night and only check the ones I got wrong. I am scoring now in the 170s. The reason I think I improved my score from doing 0 to 1 section a day to 1 test a day is not because I learned something new and now I am suddenly doing better. I think I improved it because I got sharper time wise and more efficient on my thinking because I got more and more used to the LSAT. I do take Saturday and Sunday off because I am also working on my law school applications. So overall it has improved my score because I got more and more comfortable with the test - it doesn't scare me like it used to.

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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Oct 12 2022

I am also taking it in one month and I am currently doing 1 test a day + review same day except for weekends. But I am also neither working nor in school so it really depends on your schedule. Personally, I would try to do at least 1 section a day and alternate between RC, LR and LG so you don't lose the rhythm. Then on the weekends you can do a full test one day (let's say Saturday) and review the next day (Sunday). for me personally - if I stay more than 1 day without doing any section I completely lose track of my pace, then it's much harder for me to get back on pace. So I would rather do a little bit everyday rather than a lot in 1 day and then not do anything for a few days - if that makes sense.

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robertafrossard1218
Monday, Sep 12 2022

are you talking about rc or lr? you read a lr passage in 4 seconds? Sorry I want to help but I'm confused lol.

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robertafrossard1218
Saturday, Jul 09 2022

I also want to add that, once you break that barrier of “only being able to do 1 section at a time” by doing 2-3 sections one after the other, you will realize it’s actually not that bad.

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robertafrossard1218
Saturday, Jul 09 2022

I had the same problem as you and because of it I now need to take the test for a second time. I have been studying for the same time as you and my test is also in 1 month.

Two things:

During the test you will have adrenaline and you will realize that, actually, can indeed concentrate for more than 1 section. However, because you didn’t have much practice doing 1+ section at a time, you will not do so well because the fact that you didn’t practice taking 1+ sections at a time will make you nervous (thus leading to mistakes).

Why are you not being able to concentrate? To me, the reason was because I wasn’t really in the mindset to do multiple sections one after the other. I was like “I can’t do this” so I would just simply not do it. But, you don’t have that option in the test, so you might as well force yourself to do it now rather than later.

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robertafrossard1218
Wednesday, Nov 09 2022

anywhere except Yale

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robertafrossard1218
Monday, Aug 08 2022

No I think they don’t see. But … I don’t know :neutral:

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robertafrossard1218
Monday, Aug 08 2022

Honestly I do think at least some top scorers have accommodations. When I do any section with 150% time I typically miss 1 or 2 questions. With 100% (standard) time, if for example, you mess up one of the games but then find out and go back to correct it, you are pretty much doomed already. I constantly think about getting extra time too (I had accommodations during college and I have a very good GPA) but I am scared that law schools see accommodations as a negative factor. When I was a pre-med a professor told me that med schools don't like to see accommodations and this pretty much stuck in my head since.

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robertafrossard1218
Tuesday, Nov 08 2022

Doing PT at home, during the break I listen to a playlist with soundtracks from the TV show Succession. Haha

During the real test I will close my eyes and breathe, not think about anything.

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robertafrossard1218
Tuesday, Nov 08 2022

No, you cannot! You need to use a computer (laptop or desktop).

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robertafrossard1218
Friday, Nov 04 2022

You can go to the 7sage prep test/drills tab and select the pdf option to download the sections and/or entire exams you have left to do until the test. Then for the questions you got wrong, you can watch the 7sage explanations. You don't need to buy lsac again

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robertafrossard1218
Saturday, Dec 03 2022

I would not simulate modern and with that being said I would practice a full test with 4 sections. The LSAT is not only an accuracy test and fast-thinking, but it is also somewhat like a marathon, and you must finish the race strong - like was mentioned above. Because what if the fourth section counts towards your score and then you are already burned out, then you won't perform as well.

Practice 4 sections, 2 sections in a row, followed by a 10 min break, then 2 more sections in a row.

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