Hey guys! I'm prepping for the Oct LSAT and I started PTing a few weeks ago. However I'm stuck at the 160-162 rage with no improvement. I feel I'm not being able to learn much from my mistakes and wasting a real opportunity to improve. Can anyone who was in my place at some point but managed to jump to the 170s recommend their review methods? I want to understand how I should proceed with the questions I got wrong even after blind review and learn from them so I can avoid them down the line.
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I would recommend @ for sure. He's taken the LSAT himself recently and can relate with your issues for sure
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They believe every variant (with one exception) will be a curve of -8
The one exception is the combo of Orwell/Maple Trees LR + Newspaper LG which they believe will be -9
Curve is the # of Qs you can miss and hit 170. May 2020 curve was -9.
How accurate have these been in the past?
Surprisingly accurate. A major reason for this accuracy is that LSAC doest vary their curves too much. -9 is probably one their most generous ones.
The necessary assumption questions have gotten harder but there no other noticeable differences. I do 2 PTs a week usually one form the 50s and the other one from the 70s/80s and I found no major difference in difficulty. The inference questions on RC are slightly trickier but if you're good at them you won't face any issues.
I was having a bad run of scores on RC right before test day and luckily a friend recommended Albert. He could relate to all my problems and knew what exactly I had to change. He showed me how he approaches passages which made me realize the errors I have be making. His strategies for RC questions are extremely efficient and easy to comprehend. I would highly recommend Albert to anyone looking for a tutor.
Its normal to assume the worst. Your mind tends to only recollect the questions you had a hard time with. I took the International flex in October and Instantly knew I bombed it. My tutor told me its a normal feeling that all her students have but they always score around the average of their last 4practice tests. I ended up scoring my average and so did the others I spoke to(Also thought they bombed their test)
I would highly encourage you to postpone and give yourself more time. You can improve a lot by finishing the full course. My scores started to increase after 1-2 months of taking practice sets after I finished the entire course.
If you're scoring in the 150s I definitely wouldn't recommend taking 2Pts a week. You should be concentrating on drilling your weak areas and solidifying your basics. Try taking a week off and trying doing only the basics for a week. This really helps you get a fresh perspective. Also try a different tutor. A different approach can make all the difference sometimes.
Hey. I live in India so the time difference should be alright. Id be interested!
I had a similar experience too. I got a 160(BR 167) on PT 36 and 167 (BR 171) on PT60. I found that the harder LR questions (16-24) were framed better which made them slightly easier than the older ones. Games were way harder back in the day so that is one big reason. RC is slightly harder on the newer ones so the gap is int too big but its big enough to explain a 4-5 point increase. I think you can still use them as PTs. I use them for untimed drills and its helped my LR quite a bit.
@ LSAC confirmed that the scores they released by mistake are correct. The same was said my Dave Kiloran of Powerscore.
@ Were the scores on par with your PT average? How did you find the curve?
Can someone help me with these questions. I can't get myself to agree with the answers.
1.Commentator: The quality of health care is declining. Medical schools have been graduating fewer people than are needed to replace retiring physicians. Furthermore, on average, a physician now spends only 15 minutes with a patient on the patient’s first visit.
Which one of the following, if true, most weakens the commentator’s argument?
(A) The average length of all patient-physician visits is 20 minutes.
(B) More and more people are seeking physicians, thus increasing the number of patients that physicians treat.
(C) Most patients do not like to spend an inordinate amount of time in physicians’ offices.
(D) Five years ago, the average first patient-physician visit lasted 10 minutes.
(E) Most patients visiting a physician are suffering from ailments that are not life threatening.
2.Peterson, the current world record holder in the women’s 100-meter backstroke, has ranked first in the world for seven years. Her performance in recent competitions was disappointing, but during training she unofficially beat her official world record time. So she can be expected to set a new world record in the 100-meter backstroke during the upcoming world competition.
Which one of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument?
(A) Peterson is widely expected to win the 100-meter backstroke in the next world competition.
(B) Peterson had the flu during a recent competition.
(C) Peterson has also set world records in several
other swimming events.
(D) Peterson is the only active world-class swimmer
in the world to have set a world record in the
100-meter backstroke.
(E) Peterson has in each of the past seven years
swum faster during world competitions than during training for those competitions
Hey guys! I stumbled on a sample PT for LSAT India, which is separate test for Indian Law schools. The LR is the same so you guys can use it for drilling or timed sections. The RC and LG are slightly different. Its shorter and has 4 Ac's instead of the standard 5 but I'm sure extra prep material can never hurt!
I feel this "high scoring bubble" will deflate since an experimental section is being added. But according to Spivey the medians of most schools will be increasing by a point or two for sure.
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ayee I'm retaking too, these international times are killer (6:30pm is gonna be hell). Good luck!
Best of luck! Lemme us know how it goes
Is anyone taking the test outside the US or Canada? Was hoping to create a discussion thread for Tuesday (Obeying all 7sage and Lsac rules ofc)
Quit all your open apps(Not just close), Terminate all the stuff running in the background, Close all your browsers but the one you'll be taking the test on.
Try doing a PT 6 days out and review it the next day. taking a 2 day break in the middle really helps. You can drill a hard RC passage, a few LR and a game or two the day before the test but try finishing it by afternoon and take the rest of the day off.
@ Hey! I'm interested. Im currently PTing between 163-165 and looking to make the jump before I take the test.
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According to the LSAC, it's going to be only the 16th and 17th (lower test taker volume, don't need as many days).
I don't think it's been announced yet. They usually do it around 3 weeks prior to test day.
I took PT 11 yesterday and scored wayyyy lower than my average. Are these tests on par with 36+ on difficulty?
Hey Guys! I finished the CC around 10 days ago and reviewed the topics I felt I needed to redo. I took 2 PTs in which I scored a 162 and 163( BR 164 on both). around -5/-4 on LR ,-3 On games and, -6/7 on RC. I'm messing up the level 5 and a few level 4 questions of all LR types.I race through 1-16 in around 20 mins with really good accuracy so I feel timing is not the reason I get the hard ones wrong. Im pretty decent at games even though I screw up the occasional weird game. I have not devoted too much time to RC so I can certainly improve by a point or two there. What I am really worried about is the -5 in LR, I always blind review thoroughly but I am however unable to catch what I did wrong on the level 5s despite drilling the harder Psets . What can I do differently to get my scores into the 170s? Im scheduled to take the Oct test and I can devote the next one month solely to LSAT prep. The medians of most of the schools I'm looking at is around 168 so I have to cross it all costs. Looking forward to advise from 170 scores on how they managed take the leap.
Has anyone tried the LR Mastery seminar from LSAT Hacks? Are methods compatible with 7sage?
I’m taking the test in October and I feel a working with a tutor might help me break my plateau in LR. Can anyone recommend a 7sage approved sage tutor who they have worked with in the past? I have a budget of around 40$ per hour.
Is it just me or did anyone find the RC on 79 way harder than usual? Is this a trend that continues to the 80s?
Hey Guys. Can anyone PTing in the late 160s and 170s take a look at my analytics and recommend a method of study. I plateaued at 158-161 and have been unable to improve for a month.
Hey Guys! I will be taking the LSAT in October. I finished the CC in the last week of June. I built a new schedule which involves me taking 22 PTs before Test day. Only doing 22 PTs would allow be to devote enough time to reviewing every mistake and drilling my weak areas. I took my first PT today and scored a 163. My goal is to hit 168. Is a 5 point jump achievable as I take and review more PTs? or should I go back to the CC and spend more time on my weak areas and then start PTing?
My score breakdown is as follows LR -5( -4 BR) LG -3 (-1 BR) RC -7 (-5 BR)
Hey Guys! Im averaging a -6 on LR. My BR scores are close to -2or -3. What can I do to close in on this gap?
I have only taken 4 PTs so far so is this something that bridges itself as I have more tests under my belt? or do I have to implement new strategies ?
Correct me if I am wrong but if there is a loss of connection or any interruption we won't be losing time from the section this time right? @ @ Im so sorry you had this experience.
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I am going to take the exam on the morning of the 8th. Just a general question: Does every person who takes the exam take the same exam? It seems to me from reading the comment threads that they may rearrange the order of the sections, but are all the sections collectively the same exam? I'm a little confused.
I don't think everyone takes the same exam. The RC and LR were differerent yesterday
Hey guy! Im registered for the oct test. I have taken 5 PTs in July and managed to score between 159-161 ( LR -6, LG -5 RC -7 BR 164) in all of them. I have been blind reviewing and maintaining a error journal. Im starting to get really frustrated about my lack of progress. Can anyone who was in a similar place recommend what they did differently to see an increase?
Hey I scored in the early 160s in Oct but am now PTing around a 170. Id be happy to help
I just finished fool proofing games from 1-35 and I was consistently doing most of them all right within time once I got a hang of it. I took two full timed sections today and scored -4 and -5. I did my blind review (before seeing my results) under timed constraints and managed to get a -0 and -1. Is this a transitioning issue that will go away once I do full sections more frequently or do I have to approach sections differently?
Hey guys, Can anyone PTing in the 170s help me craft a study plan for the last month. I have all my PT trends well mapped on the analytics section.
Thank you in advance
Interested!
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Does anyone have any links with the actual confirmation?
I emailed them and they responded with a confirmation
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bruh, try games 60+. I thought i had the games down until I started doing 60s, 70s next. I want to get through all the sections before the Jan LSAT. The hard games become significantly harder. I don't know if its the novelty, or something else, but don't waste your time on the first 50. If you're getting -2 and you can maintain that throughout the newer PTs, I think you're doing fine...
Games from the 60s onwards are actually considered easier. Games is the one section where the difficulty has more or less remained the same or decreased.
I can completely relate to this.I was in your place a few months ago. After a certain point untimed work does more bad than good (Like burning through prep tests) Make it a habit to do only timed drills and timed sections. You can always BR later and get a better understanding of the question untimed later. As I started doing only timed drills/sections I realized I my thinking process improved drastically under timed conditions in the matter of a few weeks. I went from panicking under time and wasting 3 mins on each question to finishing the section with 6-7 minutes to spare so I could go back to the questions I flagged. If I could go back in time and give myself one piece of LSAT advice it would be to stop doing drills /tests/ sections untimed.