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Sunday, Sep 30 2018

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At a crossroad, need some ADVICE

Hey 7 Sagers!

I'm not a good test taker - at all. I've consistently scored mid to high160s on my PTs. But when test days rolls around, I am unable to achieve my full potential for whatever reason. For the 4th time, today I found out I scored below a 160. So I now find myself at a crossroad.

I have a 158 on record as my highest score. This is a score that will get me into the schools I am looking at, but I am unsure about how much scholarship money I will receive for this score. I know I am capable of scoring over a 160, but I'm wary of taking the LSAT for a 5th time, especially if I only would gain a few more points.

Should I just go ahead and plow forward with my 158? Should I apply with my 158 and retake, and notify law schools if I have an increase in score? Or, should I start buckling down and go for my 5th attempt and submit applications assuming that score would be my highest?

I've been studying for almost a year now, and am becoming very frustrated with this test. It feels absolutely insane to have taken it so many times. Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Thursday, Dec 27 2018

@oshun1 Thanks! As long as it's possible it's worth a shot!

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Monday, Nov 26 2018

@ @ @ It was indeed a 69 joke. But who's to say that just because it's a joke doesn't mean it's true? To achieve a 169 is to know the LSAT on the most intimate of levels. I hope nobody would retake after achieving that score.

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Wednesday, Dec 26 2018

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Scholarship Negotiations - Conditions

Hey all, Merry Christmas!

I've received a handful of scholarships that have conditions attached (GPA minimums / good standing), and I'm extremely wary of them. I am wondering if anyone has heard of these conditions being reduced or eliminated during the negotiation process. If you have, could you share some resources on how this has been achieved?

Thanks in advance!

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Monday, Nov 26 2018

@ Congrats! 169 is by far the best score of the LSAT. People strive for a 170+, but 169 is the sweet spot.

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Monday, Nov 26 2018

It could have been burn out, it could have been an off day, it could have been a hard PT, or any combination of those. I'd take it away was a positive. Take a couple of days off. Come back and really BR what you missed and why. Drill those question types you missed, and review them in the CC. Then try again! Score drops happen every now and then, but they can serve as a beacon of where to shift your focus. It is what you make of it.

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

@ I'm not from Kansas and have no intention to stay. I found them because I was hyper focused on finding a 2 year program. They also offer in-state tuition to several surrounding states, including Colorado, so they jumped to the top of my list.

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

I'll be headed to Washburn University in Topeka! One of the few schools to offer an accelerated 2 year program, a guaranteed full ride and change, and a history of placing students in the field I want to enter. I can't really complain :blush:

Banging a JD out in two years and avoiding debt at all cost were my biggest fears for the two year application cycle. I'm so glad to have subdued all those fears.

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Sunday, Nov 25 2018

@ You're right thank you!

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Sunday, Nov 25 2018

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LSAT scores on applications

This is probably a dumb question but I have to ask anyways.

I've noticed all the applications want to know how many times you've taken the LSAT and what scores you received. Having taken it multiple times and having some scores that don't look so good, I don't want to.

If schools really only care about your highest score, should I only report that? Or should I swallow my pride and put all the scores I have on the application?. I'm guessing schools could talk to LSAC and see them anyways, so I'm confused why they would inquire about all of them.

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Saturday, Apr 20 2019

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1L Summer Prep Course

Anybody have thoughts or opinions on taking a 1L Summer Prep Course before matriculation? Just curious if it is worth the time and money, or if it's best to enjoy the last law-free Summer. Thanks!

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Monday, Mar 19 2018

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Affording Law School

Hey guys!

I'm sending out my feelers for everybody's wisdom. Obviously, scoring well on the LSAT is a great way to receive scholarship offers.

However, I want more resources for scholarship opportunities. Let's assume that my LSAT is good enough to get accepted to a school, but not good enough to receive a financial offer. Does anybody have good resources for general scholarships, or scholarships that are geared towards a specific school or area of the law? I'd like my law degree to be focused in business, corporate, real estate, or contract law.

Thanks for everybody's input! It's been about 8 years since I've applied to a school, so I'm a little rusty on where to find these money tree seeds.

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Tuesday, Dec 18 2018

I think it depends on where you apply, how competitive the schools are, and what your stats are. I heard from one school within 24 hours and received a scholarship. I've heard back from two others within a week - one with a full ride and change. A lot of the others schools I applied to told me to expect a decision within 4-5 business weeks.

Waiting sucks, especially since this is such a life changing decisions. Even with a tempting full ride I still want to wait to hear back from every school in order to make the best decision. Patience is key. I'm sure we'll all have a decision 4-5 weeks after their application deadline.

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Sunday, Nov 18 2018

I tried a new RC strategy today, and skipped the comparative passage. I figured that if there wasn't a lot of time when I got back to it, I could read at least one of the two sections real quick and have a chance at the questions.

I'm glad I did. That physics passage about the Big Bang was hard. Ironically, I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast on the way to the test center with a mathematician who was trying to explain the Big Bang. I honestly think both those things saved me for that passage, and all of RC. I know that I would have drowned instead of treading water.

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Saturday, Nov 17 2018

Well shit, it's been a journey y'all. This was my 5th and final LSAT. I had LR LG LR RC LR, and liked that rhythm a lot. Despite that mining game curveball, I think this LSAT was way easier than some of the other ones I've taken. I couldn't help but smile when the first LR section question was about bonobos, @ was right! Perhaps that put me at ease. Congrats to all those who ascended to sage mode today. I know I didn't lol, but I can tell you that's an accomplishment, especially if it's your first take. Good luck everyone, hope y'all get the score of your dreams! Relax and enjoy the holidays.

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Thursday, Apr 11 2019

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Need quick advice!

Help! Seat deposits are due in 4 days and I am at a lost. I have narrowed it down to two schools, but am having trouble deciding where to go. I could use some input or advice.

School 1:

Full Ride, but in a not-so-fun location. Have a two year option available, but it isn't guaranteed. It has a good program for what I want to do, and is regionally close to where I want to practice. It starts in August which would give me more time to save up before matriculation, but assuming I am able to complete the two year track, I would be finishing up school and studying for the July bar at the same time.

School 2:

Great scholarship, but with inflation would put me 20-30K in the hole. It is in a much better location fun wise, with plenty to offer recreationally. It is not regionally close to where I would like to practice. Has a two year program that is guaranteed. It starts in May which would put me in debt that much faster. However, I would finish in May and have those free months to focus exclusively on the July bar and maybe do an internship.

Both schools are just about equal in ranking, bar passage rates, and employment. Given my two year track, I don't know if having fun options is as big a deal if I am studying 24/7.

Where should I go!? Any and all input is appreciated. Thank you in advance!

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Thursday, Jan 10 2019

$150k for a law degree vs $10k for the exact same law degree. The difference is the school you went to, and that's about it. When you are a lawyer your clients will not be asking where you went, they will be seeking your expertise in the law. Just imagine your life further down the line when you can be debt free and stacking cash vs trying to get out of a debt hole that gets bigger and bigger the longer it goes unpaid.

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Saturday, Sep 08 2018

I really hope the LG gets curved hard

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Saturday, Sep 08 2018

That LG was a doozy. I was counting on that to boost my score but now I'm not so sure :(

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Tuesday, Jan 08 2019

Seriously consider creating a sustainable and easy way to have passive income. Given enough success and time over three years, this could lead toward you having enough passive income to cover your rent and beyond while in law school with minimal work. That is my goal at least.

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Tuesday, Jan 08 2019

Even if you delay a year, there is always two year law school. Which means you would be exactly where you would be if you matriculated this cycle. Deep breaths, all is well.

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Friday, Sep 07 2018

@ said:

Honestly, I think I can do it this time because I reached a PR of 161 on the pts but at the same time, I'm not sure if its the best idea to take the test again if I can't guarantee myself to get that score. I do want to just hit that number and never study for the lsats again, being quite honest.

You can do it! Don't give up! Our scores are almost identical, this will be my fourth time too (148, 157, 158). I can consistently score in the 160s on PTs but for some reason or other on game day it all falls apart. But I know that this will be the test to break into the 160s. I'm so sick of studying for this test too, and this will be the last time. I'm hoping for my wet dream score of 169 but anything above a 159 will make me very happy and get me into the schools I'm looking at. Good luck! Let's break that horizon together. :smiley:

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Thursday, Sep 06 2018

Today:

15 mile bike ride

1 LR section untimed

1 RC passage

2 LGs

Fortifying the wine from this year's harvest, opening game of NFL and some rounds of pool and beer.

Tomorrow:

Quick mile run

3 hour drive to the mountains close to the LSAT test center

10 mile hike to clear my mind

1 LR section, 1 RC passage, and two LGs at campsite

Camping under the stars for a great night's sleep on a cold night. It will be another hour drive to the test center in the morning but that's fine with me! Should be fun going into the test center smelling like campfire. :wink:

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Thursday, Dec 06 2018

@ LSAC is the Devil

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Wednesday, Sep 05 2018

@ said:

@ said:

169 is hands down the best score one can achieve on the LSAT

A simple man and a man of refined taste, I see.

Just trying to get my bamboo to sprout, you know?

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Wednesday, Sep 05 2018

169 is hands down the best score one can achieve on the LSAT

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Thursday, Apr 05 2018

scottygconquest482

Cookie Cutter Questions

Hey does anyone have good links or a list for the different type of cookie cutter questions? I know there's the oldest trick in the book and the like, but I'm drawing blanks on everything else. I'd love to get as many as these together to drill and foolproof them!

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Wednesday, Sep 05 2018

Drill baby drill.

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Wednesday, Sep 05 2018

A LG a day keeps the low scores away. Seriously though, focus on doing at least one a day. Really try to understand that game, and learn from the mistakes you made. If you do at least one a day, I promise you will see improvement. That's a guaranteed 60 practice games under your belt by test day. As you practice they will be easier, and you will begin to do more than one a day because LGs are actually FUN! They are the best part of the whole test, they are called games for a reason.

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Thursday, Apr 05 2018

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Cookie cutter foolproof

Hey does anyone have good links or a list for the different type of cookie cutter questions? I know there's the oldest trick in the book and the like, but I'm drawing blanks on everything else. I'd love to get as many as these together to drill and foolproof them!

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Tuesday, Dec 04 2018

@ @ Right?! The cost is ridiculous. But to pile on a junk website from the Aol.com era for that cost is just wrong. CAS really isn't even necessary the way they have it set up.

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Tuesday, Dec 04 2018

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LSAC is the devil.

Anybody else find the LSAC website to be extremely frustrating and difficult to navigate? I'm in the middle of setting up my applications and am finding it redundant and overly complicated. It even kicks me out sometimes and I'll have to restart my browser just to get back in.

You'd think that after CAS fees, LSAT fees, and application fees the LSAC would be able to afford and produce a seamless website that would expedite this entire process 100 fold. Anyways end rant. I just wanted to let anybody else out there who finds the LSAC website more aggravating than it has to be that you're not alone. I'll get back to work now.

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Monday, Sep 03 2018

Going to law school doesn't mean anything. You could easily drop out, or find out being a lawyer isn't for you. In which case all that energy you put towards a perceived sense of "redemption" is gone. If you really seek such "redemption," you need to be a practicing lawyer making that real mother f***ing $$$. But you must be careful... Does a such a sense of redemption equate happiness? Be honest with yourself, and don't base your actions on what you think others will think.

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Thursday, Mar 01 2018

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Audio Learning tools

I was wondering if anyone had any good resources for audio learning. I currently have a job where I'll be a road warrior, and figure I might as well be learning about the LSAT on the road (if any such resource even exists). If anyone has information on podcasts, or other audio learning materials, please let me know!

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Saturday, Dec 01 2018

I'm curious about how these hybrids work as well. I'm considering both of these schools.

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