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General · Should I retake a 169?
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sgriffgor451
Wednesday, Jun 29 2022

@anebot130 Same. No clue what happened but my preptests were averaging about 170 and I completely tanked on the real thing. So depressing.

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LSAT · ⚖ Official June 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread ⚖
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sgriffgor451
Tuesday, Jun 14 2022

@claireseelinger181 Hi Cherry, could you confirm whether students are now allowed to discuss the sections in detail?

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General · Confident I dropped the ball on June Test...What now?
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sgriffgor451
Monday, Jun 13 2022

It may be worth going through at least portions of the core curriculum, focusing on areas where you need to make the most improvement. And you'll need to take more practice tests in order to solidify your grasp of a 170 score. It's normal to score a few points above or below your average practice test score. I'd push back another cycle to give yourself enough time to enjoy your summer and really prepare for this exam!

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Study Groups · Blind Review Not Improving
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sgriffgor451
Monday, Jun 13 2022

That might just indicate that that's your ceiling. I don't want to be negative, but I do think we all have our limits (for some people, that's a 180, but not for most of us). I think the question is, are your scores matching your blind review? Or is there a gap between your preptest scores and BR scores? That gap is where improvement can happen.

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LSAT · ⚖ Official June 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread ⚖
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sgriffgor451
Sunday, Jun 12 2022

@atticusbinch00884 I agree with you and let’s face it, the LSAT is not fair. I’m seeing that for the June test, some people had their exam kicked off with an extremely difficult RC section. Those people have to wonder for the entire rest of the test, was that experimental? It’s also a big confidence zapper. So certainly compared with having an easy survey at the end, that exam was difficult. I also think the test I took was “easier” (less stressful) based on comments I’m seeing. In my opinion, small factors like section order and the difficulty of the experimental section can affect scores. That’s the LSAT roulette.

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LSAT · ⚖ Official June 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread ⚖
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sgriffgor451
Sunday, Jun 12 2022

@ana28618 I did not get that but it makes sense to me. The current logic games section will end soon — in 2023. They now need to come up with a totally different analytical reasoning section. You can read up on it online!

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LSAT · ⚖ Official June 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread ⚖
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sgriffgor451
Sunday, Jun 12 2022

Had a completely fair test that I was well prepared for only to be completely wrecked by the proctor interrupting me during RC (destroyed my focus for that whole section) and my own silly self for making a dumb mistake on games

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Admissions · Should I work a few years or go right to law school?
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sgriffgor451
Saturday, Jun 11 2022

It's really up to you and it's a personal decision. When I graduated from my alma mater

(top 10 undergrad) with a 3.9, I wasn't at all concerned that I'd be able to succeed academically at law school. However, I felt that I had little experience in corporate/legal work environments and felt that I'd benefit from some practical work experience before heading into law school. I also had dreams of living abroad for a year or two. So, after graduating, I taught English abroad for 2 years and now have spent two years working as a paralegal/legal analyst in New York, where I hope to practice.I am VERY glad I made this decision -- I've learned so much about what it means to be a successful attorney and have grown as an individual. I am applying to law schools this fall and whereas my work experience might only help me so much when it comes to law school applications, I know it has totally changed my understanding of the legal field. This will benefit me in internships, clerkships, and my first full-time job as an attorney.

In short, I'd advise you to base your decision on what you want out of life and your career, not just law school admissions.

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General · LSAT flex monitor
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sgriffgor451
Friday, Jun 03 2022

@emmagulley989 How did this go? Has anyone else recently taken the LSAT with a laptop + monitor? I do not have a webcam at the moment. I was under the impression that I could turn off the display on my laptop, keep it off to the side, and use my monitor to take the test while the laptop handled the video and audio recording. To be honest, I actually think this is better for testing security since they can see you a lot more clearly, but that's just my 2 cents.

Will I be OK for the test?

#help

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General · Underprepared for the June 2022 LSAT
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sgriffgor451
Monday, May 30 2022

Some thoughts:

I would cancel your June test (not the score; cancel your registration) if you are pretty sure that you will not do well. I'd hold off until you feel more ready and then register. You will lose the $200 you spent registering. That's annoying, but I'd do it anyway. Law school costs about 1,000 times as much as this test — consider these fees a drop in the bucket.

There is a feature for first time test takers that allows you to see your score before canceling. You only get this once. I do not recommend using it up for a test for which you feel ill prepared.

Finally, I've heard a range of advice from podcasts and other sources, but you definitely don't want to actually take the actual LSAT 7 times. I'd say 4-5 is a good maximum to aim for. Take as many practice tests as possible, but only go into the real thing when you're confident you can do well/better than last time.

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General · LSAT Writing - forgot to type the period of the last sentence...
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sgriffgor451
Saturday, May 28 2022

You're totally fine. They understand a minor typo like that.

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LSAT · PSA!! June LSAT Time Slot Sign-ups are OPEN! (Repeat Test Takers)
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sgriffgor451
Thursday, May 26 2022

Thank you for sharing this! Good luck, everyone!!

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General · Any downside to scoring lower on a retake?
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sgriffgor451
Wednesday, May 25 2022

From what I have read and heard from admissions specialists, it's not a big deal unless the score drop is significant. Law schools understand that tests can go down differently and the only score they report to the ABA is your highest score. So, unless your score dropped by many points (not sure exactly how many would be considered "many" but my best guess would be at least more than 5), my understanding is it's not a big deal and you don't need to write an addendum or anything on your applications.

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General · PT Score Drops
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sgriffgor451
Friday, May 06 2022

Just adding my voice to the chorus that drops like that are totally normal. You've only taken a few PTs, just keep going!

In my view, 3 PTs a week isn't necessarily too many. I do 2-3 a week and I have a full time job. Take breaks when you need them and make time for blind reviewing/looking closely at your mistakes when you get your score. You won't get much out of a PT unless you thoroughly review your mistakes.

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PT142.S4.Q24
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sgriffgor451
Thursday, May 05 2022

Lol hopping on a thread three years later but I completely agree.

That being said, D must be true via process of elimination. A, B, and E are totally useless and C, although it looks right at first glance, is killed off immediately when we get to the word "most".

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LSAT · Speed on Logic Games
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sgriffgor451
Monday, Apr 18 2022

It looks like you've already gotten some great advice, and apologies if I reiterate anything that's already been said, but I think a key thing to look at is where you're going wrong. Are you missing key inferences? Or are you working slowly because you're brand new at this and the connections will take time to develop? Or both?

If you're missing inferences, make notes on that based on J.Y.'s explanations. If you're just working slowly, I think the only remedy is to keep practicing! I'm no LG expert but I used to be really bad and only reliably got through two of the games. Now, I usually at least get through three by reviewing missed inferences and just practicing.

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General · Help! Should we use the "Simulate Modern" button when preparing for exams in 2022?
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sgriffgor451
Friday, Apr 15 2022

@hrmetz916 Just to make sure we're on the same page... the test used to be four sections PLUS an experimental section. It used to have two LR sections. By clicking "simulate modern," 7Sage will remove the second LR section. That section was NOT experimental on the original test. As far as I know, experimental sections aren't released to companies like 7Sage for the precise reason that the precise section may be used in the future. @pegahnasroll609 I don't believe that's the case, but maybe @cherry641 can clarify. My understanding is that if you take both LR sections (the full, four-section test) that both LR sections will count, whereas clicking "simulate modern" will remove the second LR and only score the one you take (the first).

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General · Help! Should we use the "Simulate Modern" button when preparing for exams in 2022?
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sgriffgor451
Friday, Apr 15 2022

@cherry641 Hey Cherry, thank you for clarifying. I have a follow-up question: is the final scaled score then based on an estimate of how you would have done on both LR sections combined? For instance, let's say you got -3 on the first section but the second was harder. Would that affect your simulated score? Or does the computer simply disregard the second section (how easy/hard it was and how it affected the overall scale) and base your LG performance entirely on the first?

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I'm confused when it comes to the best way to take older prep tests: simulate modern vs. don't simulate. The old tests had two LR sections, which isn't representative anymore except that it provides a four-section experience, thereby helping test-takers when it comes to training our stamina for the actual test. However, taking a 3-section test also isn't really representative because the actual test will have an experimental section. I'm also concerned that by cutting out the second LR section, the final score will be skewed. For example, the last test I took I did both LR sections. One I got -2 and the other I got -7! If the -7 section had been cut, my score would have been boosted significantly, possibly leading to a false sense of progress. How does 7Sage determine which LR section to cut?

#Help

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General · 1-2 years to study too long?
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sgriffgor451
Tuesday, Apr 12 2022

I agree with @brianpettee815. You don't need a 170+ to be a great and successful lawyer, but you may want that particular score range for good reason. I think you may benefit from weighing the pros and cons of another year of studying versus picking a date to take the LSAT and applying to law school. From your study regimen, it sounds like you have the skills necessary to be a great law student (and lawyer). Maybe starting your law career is the next best step. Remember too that you can transfer.

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General · Taking 1 PT over several sittings?
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sgriffgor451
Sunday, Feb 06 2022

I have this same question as I'm set to transition to PTs only by March.

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