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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

@ thanks, I do appreciate it! I actually have quite a few guided meditation apps on my phone - not Headspace though. I'm sure other people will recommend meditation too, so if anyone else sees this: I did meditation, yoga, mindfulness techniques, etc. leading up to the exam. I was actually really calm leading up to the test - just not so much the day of :\

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

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LSAT Addendum or No Addendum?

Warning: long post ahead.

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on submitting an LSAT addendum? I'm really embarrassed to say this and to list my scores, but I took the LSAT last Saturday for the fourth time. I have taken the test three others times: Sept. 2016 (142), June 2017 (145), and Sept. 2017 (145). I have very bad test anxiety, and during the September 2017 test I had a panic attack. After receiving my September score, which was lower than I thought I'd get, I went to my doctor and was prescribed beta-blockers. I was scoring in the 150s on every PT I took leading up to the exam, but a week before the test I had a meltdown, emailed my advisor and instructor, and both told me not to put the test off and just take it. I have always been someone who trusts their intuition, so I am mad at myself for not holding off.

Fast forward to last Saturday's test: leading up to the test my score jumped to a 158 on PTs and I was scoring consistently higher in each section. I was pretty calm for most of the week, but Saturday morning I was clearly anxious (my heart rate was ~115 beats/minute). I ended up taking a beta blocker before the test, but I still feel like I didn't score well again this time. I could be wrong (and honestly this could just be nerves), but I'm wondering how an LSAT addendum would be taken if the reason for low scores is due to test anxiety? I don't think I would have test anxiety in law school - I think the reason I get even more anxious taking the LSAT is that I feel like this test is the only thing stopping me from getting admitted. I also don't know if an admissions committee will look negatively at this, and question whether I'd get test anxiety in law school and when taking the Bar? I'm also concerned because I already have an addendum for my GPA. It's considered low; it's a 3.02. All honest opinions/advice welcome. Thank you!

Side note: I would get in to my state school and others I'm interested in with a score in the 150s - I don't have the GPA for a T-14. I do, however, have very strong softs!

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shanprokop582
Wednesday, Apr 11 2018

@ I replied to @ answer before I saw your comment - The first time I self-studied with PowerScore books and the LSAT Trainer for roughly 3.5 months. My score on the first test was not much of an improvement from my diagnostic (139 to 142) - very bad, I know. So I then decided to put off the LSAT and law school, but then the admissions director for my state university emailed (it's a very long story), and said if I retook the LSAT that June (2017) they would accept my score. So I then decided to retake the test and studied using the online self-paced Blueprint course. I only scored a 145.

At that point I decided to take an online Kaplan course over the summer, but I started getting incredibly anxious with the process, and felt like the test was the only thing determining my fate. That's kind of when I started getting bad test anxiety, to the point of having a panic attack in the third test. (Sorry if this is confusing - unfortunately a lot happened with this admissions director, and I could write a novel on everything and why I chose to take the LSAT when I did). Anyway, I had the panic attack, debated cancelling my score, my advisor told me not to, and I unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, scored the same as I had in June (a 145). I decided to retake the Kaplan course and took certain steps to combat the test anxiety for the February test, but only scored a 147. And now I'm here, wondering what the heck to do!

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Wednesday, Apr 11 2018

@ Yes, exactly - I don't think waiting a year or two will fix anything, except I won't be burned out. The first time I studied I self-studied with books; the second time I did an online self-paced Blueprint course; and the third and fourth time I did a live-online Kaplan course :| my score actually did improve, I just freak out in the test room. I don't remember the exact test breakdown for each section, but my best section is LG with ~-5. My worst section BY FAR is reading comprehension. I'll definitely take your advice on reading dense material daily.

@ I believe I freak out in the test room because I feel like the LSAT is the only thing standing in my way of getting admitted. Sounds kind of weird, but I never had this bad of test anxiety in undergrad, and I've never had anxiety in general. To prepare for my last test I actually did a lot to help the issue (I meditated; practiced yoga & weightlifting/workout; I even took beta-blockers). It helped throughout studying, but on the morning of the test it ultimately didn't do much to help. I know law school will be more stressful, but I honestly think I'll be fine once I'm admitted. I almost don't really know how to explain why I freak out so much on the LSAT, because tests never bothered me before.

Hi everyone! I am looking for some honest advice. So to start off, I have taken the LSAT four times; my most recent score was a 147 (Feb. 2018). I have severe test anxiety and had a panic attack during one of my tests - I just cannot conquer this stupid test :( My uGPA isn't bad, but it's not great either: a 3.02. I have been out of school for a little over two years now, and have since worked as a legal advocate for a domestic abuse shelter; a courtroom clerk; and I am currently the manager of a low-income family mediation program. I have four letters of recommendation, and I know they are all very strong. And then there's my personal statement, which I had two advisors review and had an expert edit; I was told it was very strong. Aside from my LSAT (and uGPA), I am not too worried about the rest of my application.

With all that aside, I am very unsure where to go from here. I applied to eight schools for the 2018 cycle, but I have received two rejections so far (not surprising), and am not confident about the rest. I will take the LSAT again, but I think I need to take some time (a year or two) for myself, and then retake. Even if I retake, I am not expecting to score that much higher. I have taken it four times already, and at this point I don't think I will score much higher than low/mid-150's. So, I am wondering what would be the best option to boost my application? I have been playing with the idea of going back to school - either another Bachelor's to increase my uGPA or a Master's... but I have read/heard conflicting things about this. Would it be better to go back to school to show schools that I am a serious student, continue to work, or I have the option to also get my mediation certificate? Other ideas or any advice? I would greatly appreciate any input! Thank you!

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shanprokop582
Tuesday, May 08 2018

@ thank you for your response! I read through the information you provided. I do have a follow-up question, though. Do you think it is a good idea to call/email the school to ask if they would accept a LOCI if I sent one? My only concern with sending the letter is if my file will be pushed to the back... or is that not something I should be worried about?

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Monday, May 07 2018

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Should I send a LOCI?

Hi everyone -

I am waiting to hear back from one school. The status of my application has been listed as "decision pending" since March 11th. This seems like a long time (maybe it is not - I am also getting anxious), and I am wondering if I don't hear back by the end of this week if it is appropriate to send a LOCI? I have read conflicting advice on sending a LOCI to schools that you have not heard back from. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

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shanprokop582
Wednesday, Jun 06 2018

@ said:

If you're worried about how this comes across, you could just sign her up for a tour as a prospective student (if she isn't obviously too young of course). The law school will never know the difference. I've seen people do this with their SOs or friends on tours. With that said, I don't think anyone would even care if you did just bring her as a family member. I don't think school visits carry much weight in admissions decisions at all. If anything, it can only be a positive factor.

I think the "no parent" stigma comes from people just seeming immature if they still have their parents trailing them wherever they go as a young adult (which is kind of overboard anyway—I see nothing wrong with showing your family the school you are considering, especially if they are helping you fund your education there).

Hi @ - yes, I guess I was worried about how it would come across. I was a little concerned that bringing a sibling would look like I am timid/scared to tour on my own - which isn't the case at all. No, my sister isn't too young to be a prospective student (just two years older than me :smile: ), but I'll probably just let them know I'm traveling with my sister and let them know she'll be with me. I just wanted someone else's advice and to double check it didn't come across as strange. I agree with your input about parents coming on tours, by the way, as well. Thanks!

Hi everyone - I am currently wait-listed at a school out-of-state and am touring the school in two weeks. I am going with my sister for a short vacation and she was going to go with me on the tour. I initially didn't think this was weird, since there won't be any classes and the tour shouldn't last longer than an hour. I know it's not recommended to have your parents go on tours with you - is it weird if my sister comes with me then?

I'm sure she could find something to do for an hour or so, but it's in a city we don't know and I didn't think it was too big of a deal. Should I let the school know ahead of time?

Thanks!

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