Hey guys, so is it recommended to always waive your right to see your LOR?
A brief search here seems to indicate that is so. Just wanted to confirm.
Also, if I do waive the right, would it be unethical to ask my recommender to see a copy of the letter before he submits it? Just trying to do the right thing.
Thanks!
Hey guys, this may be a stupid question, but for the admission ticket photo, must I actually go to Walgreens or CVS and get an actual passport photo to upload to the LSAC site?
Or can I just take it with my smartphone (meet all the requirements laid out by LSAC) and upload that?
Thanks.
Hey guys,
How do you improve timing, especially with LR and LG? Is it something that just comes naturally with tons of practice? Do you just get faster at answering questions accurately with more and more experience?
I'm greatly frustrated because, for example, on a recent LR section on a preptest, I missed 9 freaking questions under the standard 35 minutes. Re-did the 9 questions afterwards on BR, and got 6 of them correct. Questions I could easily have gotten right but missed because of the pressure of that constantly ticking damn clock.
I feel if I had even an extra 5 minutes per section, or 40 minutes, I could really, really do much better. Obviously, we only get 35 minutes per.
How do you guys do it? So frustrated...
Hey guys, so I have a dumb question. I just started my CAS stuff on LSAC.org. But where do I write and submit my PS, resume, etc?
Do they have to be individually submitted to individual schools, or through CAS?
Ah goddamn it, I just remembered I screwed myself.
I drank a whole can of Red Bull right before the test thinking it could really jolt me up for the test. I needed it because I was half asleep from driving an hour to get to the test center.
I used the restroom right before, but midway through the 2nd section, logic games, I just had to go. Knowing I still had the 3rd section before the break, I went to the restroom. Wasted precious time, at least 2 minutes. Definitely cost me a point or two by going to the restroom.
Or course, I find out after the test, the 3rd section for my test, the LR with 26 questions, was experimental. I really wish I had waited until the 3rd section to take the piss, but obviously I didn't know that was experimental during the test.
Now I'm just kicking myself for drinking that diuretic right before the test. F me and my judgment.
I'm trying to spin it positively, telling myself the caffeine probably made me more alert during the rest of the test, helping me. Still I'm kicking myself.
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It's Monday morning post-LSAT and I am lost with what to do with my time since I am not studying. Anyone feeling the same weird way? Lol
Gosh yes! I feel so unproductive. I've been binge watching some TV shows when I know I should be working on apps smh.
Yes apps...part 2 of the process...i told myself i would take this week off, celebrate Thanksgiving with my family bc my nose has been in the books for months and come Monday I'll get right back on it.... any shows to recommend?
Hey that is a good idea. I was going to start my apps right away today, but man, I am so freaking burned out from months of nonstop studying. I've just been lounging around.
I think I will take this week off too, and start those apps Monday after Thanksgiving.
Besides, it's completely useless to submit my apps before my LSAT score from Saturday gets released.
Try Haunting of the Hill House on Netflix. Fair warning though, it's pretty sad. More sad than scary, haha.
Hey, is there anyone near Denver and the surrounding areas who want to get together for studying for the November test?
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I messed up on the last game of the real LR. The one with Saturday- Sunday sequencing. I drew the diagram with only 6 days instead of 7 and only realized this mistake at the 5 minute warning. I bubbled c for the answers for this game. Got through mining and still had 13 minutes left. Thought the fourth game was the hard one because I messed up my diagram! Can’t believe it!
Two questions:
Is the AC order the same for everyone within each question?
If so, does anyone remember how many if any Cs were correct ACs for this game?
I think there may have been couple C's, but honestly I can't really remember.
Lol. The converse happened to me, where I had to bubble all C's for the mining game. I know there were only 5 Qs for this game, but do you remember if any correct ones were C's?
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the movie passage was absurdly difficult to parse. Started off ok and by the end I had no idea what the purpose was.
Same here. It started off fine, but then they started talking about musicals and realism on the 2nd half, and I was like what... the... f... is this??
I can't speak for this year's actual LSATs, given this was my first ever official test.
But you're right OP, compared to the PTs I have taken, questions were much less cookie cutter and harder. There were quite a few questions where you came down to 2 very attractive ACs. You could literally argue for your answer being correct IMHO. Of course, LSAC hedges itself by making you choose "the most" or "the best". I thought this held true for both LR and RC.
I only practiced with PT 50s and below, because of my Premium package. I would caution others that these earlier tests, although very good practice, are not completely representative of what I faced yesterday.
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Had 3 LR. I think I screwed up big time....couldn't finish LR. sigh...
Same here, man. All 3 LR sections were hard. Definitely less cookie cutter and more curveball questions than preptests 50's and below.
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Any thoughts on RC? Everyone has been talking games and lr? I actually found rc challenging although nothing too hard.
I feel you. Some of the questions were tricky as hell.
The 2nd passage, about the movies and musical, was the hardest of the set. Like the second part of the passage took such a shitty turn, I was like goddamn man wtf.
Even the very first passage (the easiest of the bunch), I forget the topic (Indus?), had one tricky question at the end.
The double passage was pretty hard too. That crap about blame and free will. Ughhh.
The last passage, the universe and multiverse, was not easy either. The passage was decent, but questions were tricky and of course time is always an issue with the last passage.
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Don’t sweat it, man. Very few people leave an LSAT feeling good. It’s such a whirlwind. I’ve been obsessing since over whether or not I bubbled correctly. This was your first test, right? I think it’s a shocking experience with the lines and the horrible proctors and all that (my proctor started blasting music on his headphones and i told him to turn it off). Whatever happens, you can take it again. Experience really helps with these things.
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Is it just me or was LR hard?
So is it agreed that the LR with 26 questions was experimental?
I actually thought the whole test was hard. Feeling very depressed. :(
Thanks man, appreciate it.
Is it just me or was LR hard?
So is it agreed that the LR with 26 questions was experimental?
I actually thought the whole test was hard. Feeling very depressed. :(
Hey guys, so I don't know how silly this question is. But first time taking the test next month.
I had my SO take a picture of me in my home, in front of a plain wall, for the admission ticket. I really didn't want to shell out 20-25 bucks for a CVS/Walgreens passport photo.
The thing is, even when I take the pic during the daytime, there is a very slight shadow/silhouette of my head on the wall behind me. Is this okay? Otherwise, the actual picture of me is crystal clear, no shadows, nothing. There can be no doubt the pic is of me, for anybody looking at it. I just don't know how anal the people at the test centers are with this sort of thing.
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Can you point to the video where J.Y. talks stuff that's not relative? J.Y. actually welcomes criticism so he might redo the video if it's needlessly long.
I actually really enjoy it when he talks about things that are not relative. Wish he did it more. It provides humor and he's a pretty funny guy. Maybe that's just me, I don't know.
Question 15 eats up a ton of time.
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And I also predict someone on this thread will get a 174.
I know I won't get anything even close to a 174. But I shall post here for some of that good luck, haha!
Hey guys, is it generally true of the 2 LR sections in the test, one section is harder than the other one? I find that I tend to do better in one LR section than the other one. And when I am doing the test, one LR section I find reasonable. Then I do the other LR section, and I think, wow this one is significantly harder. Wondering if anyone else has similar experience.
Hey guys, I don't know why I'm making this thread. But I just bombed another logic game set, and wanted to remark how really tired and burned out I am from studying.
With the November test about a month and a week away, really feeling the drag now.
If those of you who's taking the November test feel the same, you have a company in me. Cheers! Haha.
Hey guys, for those who have taken the LSAT at a major/big university, is this generally better or worse than taking it, say at a community college/smaller university?
When I take paper based exams, I like having large desk space to work on. I imagine for tests at a big university, I'm sure there are a lot of people sitting for the exam, so I would presume they make you take the test at a big lecture hall? But lecture halls usually have those tiny, fold-out desks, which would really suck to take the LSAT on.
Also, I just found out the university where I was planning to take the exam at, will have a home football game that Saturday in November (it's a Pac-12 big school). Do you guys think the noise factor will be something I should consider if deciding to choose this site (even though the test is in the morning, I'm sure the campus will be abuzz with students/parents/people, etc)?
Hey guys, so doing preptests, I've noticed for vast majority, the games 1 and 2 are the easier ones and games 3 and 4 the harder ones.
From what I've seen, the 1st game is usually a 1-level, the 2nd game generally 2-level, game 3 being 3-level or 4-level or 5-level (mostly 4-level), and game 4 being 4- or 5- level difficulty (mostly 5-level).
Sometimes there's an exchange in the level of difficulty between games 3 and 4 as well, it seems.
Is this trend generally true? For those of you who have taken real, actual LSAT recently, would you say this is pretty accurate?
If this is still true for recent tests, I want to make sure I can try to quickly knock out the first 2 games, so I can focus on games 3 and 4. I don't want to make the mistake of skipping around (and wasting time) trying to figure out which games are easier and which are the hard ones during the real test.
Thanks!
I read from some posts here ibuprofen/Advil/Tylenol is okay to bring on test day. This may be a dumb question, but are caffeine pills in a small medicine bottle allowed or not?
Hey guys, so I just can't seem to gain mastery over LG, despite my trying and trying. The issue is timing, obviously given enough time, I can get most of them correct, but I just can't seem to do them at the 8-9 minutes allotted for each. Actually, doing a game in that amount of time seems pretty much impossible to me, unless it's one of the really easy ones.
If a game is simple enough where I can make tons of inferences on the game board, then I don't have too much trouble. I can just set up different game boards for different scenarios, and then answering questions are easy at that point. But this goes for everybody else, I assume.
It's when I set up a game board, and I can't make a lot of inferences from the conditions given because there are too many different scenarios. Then it just becomes a time sinkhole, where I try to brute force through the questions, but then time always catches up to me.
I don't know if I should just raise the white flag on LG at this point, and instead focus all my attention and time on LR and RC, as these aren't as much of a roadblock to me as LG is. Focus on my weakness, or try to strengthen those areas that I'm better at. Don't know what to do.
Hey guys so some schools ask directly if you have been terminated or dismissed from a place of employment as one of the C & F questions.
I've attached an addendum explaining my case for that question.
For some schools, though, they don't directly ask employment termination questions. Do I just leave it out?
Or put it under C & F question pertaining to "Academic dismissal, probation, termination from college, university, post secondary institution"? Even though mine was an actual job and not a school or college.
Thanks all.
Persevere to the end, my (wo)man!
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Are you taking the January test?
At this point, I don't think I will take the January test.
Hey guys, looking for some advice.
So like 6 or 7 of the schools I am looking at, both my GPA and LSAT fall smack dab in the 25% percentile for that school's class last cycle, per their respective admissions website.
Is it of any worth to apply to them? Maybe apply to couple as reach schools? I don't want to sink money into applying for them if I don't really stand a chance as 25% range for both their GPA and LSAT.
Yeah, LR really wrecked me. Both sections, but the 1st LR section, I never missed that many questions in a LR section in any of my practice tests. Feelsbadman.
Got exactly the same score as what I was scoring on my PT average. Exactly the same. Not a point more or less.
Got massacred on LR, but did the best I have ever done on LG (my weakest section by far so was pretty surprised). Scored my average on RC.
LR... was just brutal.
I guess I'm trying to find out whether, if I submit my apps now, and the schools subsequently request my law school report from LSAC, would LSAC even send in the reports because my file is missing the letters?
Or would my CAS file basically be incomplete and sitting in purgatory until the letters are received by LSAC?
Aw man, they took it down. Bummer.
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Have you tried putting the applications into your cart and getting through to the payment page? If you get there, then maybe they send everything on file and just update law schools when your CAS updates. But what I was saying is that I'm not sure if LSAC even lets you get through to the payment page without assigning LORs.
Ya it did get me to the cart and payment page.
@ yeah I'm kind of confused how CAS and LORs work. If I submit my individual applications to each school without my CAS being complete (no LORs in my file yet), does that mean Law School Reports will not be sent to law schools when they request it?
Hey guys, so it looks like I won't get my 2 letter writers to turn in their LORs until 2-3 weeks from now. I have everything else completed. Once I get my LSAT score this Saturday, should I submit my apps? Or wait until my 2 letters are in to CAS?
Thanks.
About a week and a half left now, and my PT scores are steadily decreasing one after another, for the past 4-5 tests. Not huge drops, but 1-2 points one test after another. Very consistently so. Very frustrated and worried, scores should be going up, now freaking down.
Feeling a little burnout, but nothing too much to warrant these drops, I feel.
Not sure what to do. Debating between a) stop taking PTs and just review past tests or CC
b) go even more hardcore through remaining PTs and hope scores don't keep dropping.
Kind of freaking out.
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So you gave lawyers coffee and are wondering why they didn’t talk to you about ethics? Ok...
We are all here to ask questions and receive help, in a friendly and supportive environment.
If you thought this questions was "beneath" you, you didn't have to reply.
The ways you replied to people in this post were very condescending and uncalled for, as others have already noted.
In any case, I sincerely hope I don't meet a dick like you in law school.
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Or what?
Alright, who invited Scut Farkus? Come on, raise your hand...
Lol, haha.
Thanks everyone else for your replies! I shall follow your suggestions.
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The fact that you are asking this suggests that you don't know much about law school or the lawyering profession. It also suggests that you haven't talked to lawyers or people who have went to law school.
Dude, that's why I'm trying to go to law school, isn't it? But thanks for this uhhh... helpful... comment.
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You'll submit them to each school via the school's online application. Each application has an attachments section that lets you upload the relevant documents.
Awesome, thank you.