Hi everyone,

I'm a recently graduated Canadian student and I was wondering if it is worth applying to the T14 law schools in the upcoming admission cycle. My stats are:158 (Oct) and 166 (Feb) LSAT, and 3.86 UGPA (according to LSDAS). I'm not too familiar with the law school admission system in the US but it seems like a lot of schools average the multiple LSAT scores, which works against me. If I do apply, do you think applying for scholarship as an international student diminish my chances? Also, do I even have a shot at T14? Should I apply for ED?

I'm pretty confused as to where to start and when to start applying... Any advice, general tips would be appreciated.

Thank you!!

Hi all, I just got back my Oct score yesterday, which turned out to be very disappointing157, 6 points below my average score, 163. I've never gotten below 162 on my PTs for the past two months, so this was devastating and unexpected. I don't know what happened, but I guess I was especially nervous during the first section, RC, on which I got almost half of the Qs wrong, twice as many as what I typically get. On LRs, I typically range between -7~-10 and I got -15 on the real one. Usually, when I do well on the RCs, I do poorly on the LRs and vice versa so it balances out. This time, it appears that I under-performed on almost all the sections. I'm considering to retake in Dec but with barely a month left to prep with full-time schooling, I'm afraid I will make the same mistake and get a similar result. Re-taking in February would be better because I graduate this December and I'll have two months to prep for the LSAT full-time at home. However, this would mean that I'll have to possibly wait a year and apply next cycle since my dream school fills almost all of its class before the February LSAT results are released. If I decide to apply next cycle, which I prefer not to, I'd like to save up my LSAT attempts and take the February and June exams.

My target score is 166, but anything more than 160 would guarantee my acceptance to all the schools except my top-choice school. I've never thought I'd get anything below 160 and looking at my score on the real one, I'm uncertain whether to see it as a true reflection of myself or just an outlier. Since I felt that I put in a decent amount of time and efforts into studying for this exam, I've never thought I'd be worried about not getting into any of the schools on my list. I spent the entire evening yesterday thinking about whether I have the capability to do well on a standardized exam or go to law school. My fellow classmate who spent much less time than me studying for the LSAT pulled off a 170 even though he said that he "bombed" it. It's quite discouraging to see that this entire process is slow and that I haven't seen much progress even in my PT score. It's really difficult to keep out the negative thoughts.

Sorry, if this post makes anyone feel uncomfortable. Any advice on how to tackle the issue and when to re-take would be appreciated.

PS - I took the 7sage ultimate course and studied with the Trainer book...

Hi all,

I've been taking a mixture of recent tests (60s-70s) and with some exceptions of outliers on lower 60s tests (165~167), I've been consistently getting the same scores 162 or 163 for almost a month now. I don't know how I'm not improving much nowadays but I find that the LG sections on the most recent ones are way harder than on the old ones. I used to get 0~3 wrong but now I get 4~6 wrong. Also, it seems like when I do well on LRs, I bomb RC and vice versa. I heard that people tend to drop few scores on the real one, and I'm afraid I'll follow that path. I took #71 today at my test centre with a friend who will also be taking the Oct exam and I scored 163 again. Now that there's only a few weeks left until the exam day, I'm feeling some pressure and burnout. My goal used to be 165 but I feel like I might not be able to reach that goal.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I mean can you actually deteriorate in your ability to take LSAT as you study more? I've recently started taking PTs in the 50s after finishing the ones in 30s/40s - only to realize that both my actual and BR scores are dropping each PT (from mid 160s to currently high 150s actual). I've taken about 17 PTs and this is really discouraging. I can't believe my BR score is dropping too below 170s now. Are PTs in the 50s harder than the previous ones? Or am I just losing my fundamentals as time progresses... Or this is just a burnout? It's really frustrating to see that I'm doing worse each time - I feel like maybe this test is not for me (I know some of you will hate me for saying this). :(

Hi all,

I've taken about 10 PTs so far, making steady progress from 157 to now 164/165 (three most recent) with BR usually ranging somewhere between 170-176. I get about -7 on RC, -3~-6 on LR and -0~-3 on LG. On RC, I usually have time for only three passages, forced to leave the last passage completely blank, which is quite frustrating. On LR, I seem to take quite a while to warm up since I always do much better on the second LR, which I'm now able to finish just on time (with no time to spare). For the first LR, I miss about 3-5 questions because I run out of time. I don't think I have much problem with the LR fundamentals since I usually miss only 2-3 questions after BR if any. The same goes for RC (although more questions wrong here). I'm aiming for 167-168 for October LSAT, and I believe I can make few more points if I can pace myself more efficiently/effectively. Do you guys have any tips to help me quicken the POE and hone my intuition? Or do you think this is just stemming from my lack of practice in doing PTs... I would appreciate you input!