I am able to recognize premise, conclusions and the approach to classify the inference family LR. However, when I see the questions I freak out and get totally lost. All the answer choices look alike. It is hard to decipher the correct answer and I give up. Help................. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! . Please and Thank you.
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I am taking a brief study break and reviewing in my mind some of the things I know or have learned. However, when I look at the things I need to review and learn it's like OMG, brain freeze, headache, got to step away from it all for a second, regroup and return back to it.
How do we deal with all this information? I feel like there are so many skills to know and learn in such little time. As soon as I master one technique, it's like I have to review the other techniques that I have forgotten. I am trying to stay focused, but SMH.....
Any suggestions????
This is my opinion. I am not an expert and I am battling my own study and study schedule issues, however, in my opinion quality study is better than quantity. Quantity is good because you get the practice, but this is a hard test.
You have to know and understand the concepts and be quick like in a New York minute doing it. Also, you have to be focused. It's alright to postpone the test if you are not ready.
Furthermore, in my opinion, analyze yourself. Know your strengths and weaknesses, what you know vs what you don't know or understand and need to learn. In addition, how long it takes for you to get it done under the pressure (distractions) and atmosphere of timed test taking conditions.
Remember, this is a hard test, but it is your priority and the rewards will be great. I hope this helps.
Thanks for asking the question. I'm in the same boat.
My undergraduate gpa was slightly below a 3.0. However, my graduate gpa was significantly above 3.0 and my degrees are in different fields.
I was advised by an admissions rep at my choice law school that I needed a 177 LSAT score. That stressed me out.....!!!!! This is not a top tier law school, but extremely competitive.
So, I'm thinking about choosing a different law school and doing my best on the LSAT.
Lines 7 and 8 are freezing my comprehension, relegate, periphery and antecedents. Any suggestions. The author lost me.
When I get lost, it's hard for me to determine if the big picture of the passage is positive, negative or neutral, agree or disagree.
Please help. Thank you.
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My comment is that they may be old, but I would study and practice on anything I could get my hands on. The more the merrier.
Hey....., I'm in the same boat...!!!!
Thank you so...... very much. This really helps.
I need help with this.
First of all, the conclusion. There are no conclusion indicators and I was confused between 2 statements to select for the conclusion. Secondly, answer choice (A) and (C), aren't they basically both saying the same thing? When there are answer choices that similar (close) in meaning, how do you determine the correct answer? Furthermore, for generalization, is there a formula for selecting answer choices? It seems that whenever I select an answer choice (narrow or broad), the correct answer is always opposite of what I pick.
Thank you.
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Thank you so much. This is helpful and I understand your point. However, .... this is my issue. Taking the above example.
If All swans are probably white, then every observed swan is white. Or,
If every observed swan is white, then all swans are probably white.
Also,
Therefore, since all swans are probably white, every observed swan is white.
So, since every observed swan is white, all swans are probably white.
Every observed swan is white because all swans are probably white.
So, all swans are probably white, because every observed swan is white.
Do you understand my confusion? And which one is correct?
Thank you.
Well....., I have some encouraging words too.
Someone told me you have to take baby steps. Some study is better than no study.
However, you must consider your goal and score on the test. In addition, I would say your background, strengths and weaknesses regarding your prep.
A one hour quality study session is better than 4 or 5 hours of not getting anything accomplished, brain drain and hang it up. However, if you are a serious student and are disciplined to handle that I would say go for it. To each his/her own.
I have distractions that cramps my style and mess up my game plan. I need encouragement too. This was helpful for me.
This is a hard test. The LSAT is no joke and no laughing matter. They make it hard for a reason.
I don't know if this helps. I still have issues with intermediate conclusions and this particular problem struck me below the belt when I first attempted it because I thought I was confident with conclusion question and I got it wrong. However, when I went back to study what I did wrong, I looked at it as a policy recommendation for sentence 1. Whereby, sentence 2 and 3 in my opinion are premises. Thereby, respectfully speaking, in my opinion, this whole LSAT test is confusing.
I'm not an expert at this, so if anybody wants to jump in and help, please do so. Moreover, thanks for asking the question. I'm a shy person and I usually hesitate asking questions.
This is a good question. It doesn't have any indicator words, neither the "should or ought" for policy recommendation. Moreover, the answer choices all look tempting.
Respectfully speaking, if it is not considered a policy recommendation, then I guess it is like a thesis statement. Thereby, bottom line for whatever it is worth, sentence 1 is the conclusion. However, now that I am able to find or determine the correct conclusion in the stimuli, it is selecting the correct answer choice that is striking me out. Wherefore, certain matters in the answer choices looked attractive.
In selecting the right answer choice for conclusion questions, you must consider one thing and that is the wrong answer choices and why they are wrong. The correct answer closely matches the conclusion and wrong answers can be premises or a mess and mixture of issues. Thereby, if you pick or determine the wrong sentence, phrase, clause or wording in the stimulus as the conclusion, you are at risk of selecting the wrong answer choice.
This exam is very technical. I was hooked on answer choice (E), which I finally understand now the reason why it is incorrect while writing this post.
The star of the show is the term "pit bull" and the phrase, clause or words tacked on to it in sentence 1 up to the comma. The rest of the sentence and everything thereafter, I would consider premises in support of that one little phrase or clause.
Then you have to go into the meat of the clause, first part of sentence 1, and with other questions, understand or determine what it is saying or referring to. Answer choice (E) through me a loop because it was talking about some breeds. It's not "some breeds", it's "pit bull. Which is answer choice (C)
Respectfully speaking, this is not a test to play jet plane on when you are first starting out. I hope this helps.
This is so..... wonderful. Thank you. A friend of mine graduated from Cornell. I hear it is a great school.
Hey...., I'm doing it now......
This is a hard test........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The prep books basically say to identify the premise and move on. However, in my research, I have found different types of premises; suspended premises, explicit and implicit premises, dependent and independent premises and so forth. I'm getting confused and frustrated with the terminology in the different types of claims, statements, propositions, premises. Any words of encouragement? Please help...!!!
This is nice. Thank you for the comments and the post.
A dear friend of mine died. It was really sad. I had to take a few days off (short break) to mourn and grieve the loss.
His death really made me refocus because I'm sure doing well on the LSAT is something that he would want me to achieve.
Thanks again for this post.
At first I thought I had this and was feeling good, until I got a question wrong, read the explanation and found out that what I considered to be background context information, the author/solutions/explanations used the statement as the premise, that according to the explanation, resulted in a totally different answer.
In the absence of premise/conclusion indicators, what is the best method or way to decipher and/or distinguish between premise, context, and conclusion/(thesis) information. In addition, in using the "so test" to determine, I find it a matter of opinion as to what sounds right or wrong for a conclusion statement determination. Thereby, some stimulus have the conclusion broken up throughout the passage whereby you have to piece the words or phrases together in order to come up with the proper conclusion. Thus in using the wrong method to choose a conclusion, could yield in choosing or picking the wrong answer choice and an unpleasant LSAT score.
Please help. Thank you.
The study guide didn't give a preptest number. The solutions state it to be a descriptive tone or attitude of the author"Ivory Tower Theory". I looked up the term and found it to be a metaphor.
I have issues with humanities passages especially the tone and attitude questions.
This whole test seems like a lot of information or TMI, too much information to know, learn and study, the flaws, conditionals, and hidden literary devices. OMG
Thanks for the encouragement.
Suggestions welcome.
Would somebody please help me. I am having an awfully hard time with the RC questions and I feel that some answer choices can be debated as opinionated.
I am finding the RC questions much harder than the LG.
Please help. Question #'s 1, 5, 6, 7, & 8, especially #'s 1, 7 & 8.
Thank you.
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Thank you. I greatly appreciate your comment.
I heard that literary devices were not tested on the LSAT and not to worry about high level advanced vocabulary.
However, I was reading a study guide that gave an explanation of author's attitude and tone by way of a literary device for which I had to look up the meaning.
I was not an English or Philosophy major. The high level vocabulary and metaphors are destroying my progress and success. I am able to handle/understand the context cues as per science and legal jargon, but it's the thousands of other words that concern me. Even for words that I thought I was familiar with, the connotations flip and throw me for a loop.
Any suggestions please......?????
I would say study as much as you can, whenever you can.
My issue is in the the stimulus finding the conclusion. Can Someone please help?
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I was reading where various law schools have stopped requiring the LSAT for admission now. Is this becoming a trend? After so much studying I am wondering if it is worth it now. Any suggestions or words of encouragement.
Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate your help. This is a hard test.
Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate your help.
It's the June 2007, S2.Q10.
Respectfully, my undergraduate GPA is nothing to flaunt. I had a life, issues etc. Going to law school was not on my mind at the time. Therefore, what are my best options for getting into law school? What do you recommend?
Although I am getting better at locating the conclusion in the stimulus, the answer choices are throwing curve balls and hard punches below the belt. Can someone help me please......?
On this question, while I was able to understand and agree that the conclusion was sentence 1, the answer choices all look so..... attractive and it is difficult to understand why the answers are right and wrong. In speeding through this question, I took a second look thereby, in studying and going back, they all look so... wrong to the point that I would disagree that any of them are correct.
The correct AC, (B), allegedly makes a recommendation "..., is advisable...", and allegedly includes additional information as per "..., in as high proportion of their experiments....".
Help..........!!!!!!!?????
I assume it is a relationship between the words "possible" and "can"?
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September 4th, that's my birthday. What a great day this is going to be.
Thanks......!!!!!
I was told that LSAC uses a different test for people who receive accommodations and that the test is much harder for the basic reason of having more time. I was debating whether to request accommodations and how the law schools admissions view people who take the test with accommodations.
Sometimes I feel like I just want to take it, get it over with and mark whatever. However, I need a good score and to do my best.
Dear Victoria:
I.... don't know about the 8-12 hours of studying per day. Personally, I've heard that people get burned out studying that long. I would at least recommend 4 to 5 hours daily. However, it is an extremely hard test and one should study as much as possible.
7Sage is great and highly ranked as one of the best for LSAT prep. This Discussion Forum is a wonderful support network.
If this is something that you really want, don't give up. The LSAT is a process. You have to take it one step at a time and master the skills. Once you achieve that goal, then it is like a walk in the park.
Happy Studying..................... !!!!!!!
Please send me the youtube link too. I've been ill these past few days and just getting into studying.
Thanks for the Comment Post. You are not alone. I must join you on that.
I took a moment to watch a movie and listened to a few cartoons for laughter. But we have to think about our goal.
Don't beat up on yourself. Take a break, regroup and move on. If you have to redo, then repeat. Like the Michael Jackson song says, "Don't stop till you get enough..." (LSAT).
I am having trouble deciphering between answer choices especially determining if an answer choice is too strong or too weak, Any suggestions on how I can improve?
Wow...........!!!!!!!!!!
This is really way cool. Old school 1960's "Far Out......!!!", "Groovy.....!!!
Either sounds good to me. As the word gets around, you might have to do both times if you can.