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Given that your test is in two months, LG would be the best way to make the quickest gains as it's supposedly the most learnable and highly relevant to your score esp since you say it's your worst section. My RC used to fluctuate wildly from -8 to -16 but I worked with a tutor and study buddy and I recently have it down to around -3 to -6. The main gamechanger for me (although it might not work for you) is to focus on structure and function of each paragraph and to view RC like LR stimuluses in a method of reasoning way. I would also recommend to read for leisure on screen (don't necessarily have to buy ebooks, since public libraries have digital database for ebooks to check out) perhaps a bit each day. It's really made the difference for me, and will make a huge difference especially if you aren't an active reader already and a non-reader currently.

Hmmm I'm not sure but honestly October and November is one month apart, so realistically if ya wanna see how you do on Aug first before, then I would suggest November. Assuming there isn't any pressing/additional obligations and responsibilities for you from Oct-Nov.

Is there any reason for this anxiety? I've only taken the LSAT once, but calming down the nerves prior by walking, or meditating before you take the exam helped me out. If noise is the issue, perhaps you can look into doing the exam at a time or location where you won't be disturbed. Alternatively if it's not possible in any way, do the PTs in the same disturbed condition to mirror actual conditions. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly you still have 2 more tries so it's not necessarily the end as long as you keep grinding. Someone on 7sage recommended a book called Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins, and I read it and loved it. Perhaps it can help ya out and re-centre your focus/perspective. Best of luck

If your test is coming this Tuesday, I would advise doing little to no studying the days leading up to the exam. You really should be as relaxed as possible before the exam and do things you enjoy or exercise. Avoid any additional stress onto of your LSAT exam on exam or else it may interfere with your ability to perform your best.

I'm not a 165 scorer but score in the low 160s and LR is my consistent section. If you're being seduced by attractive but very wrong answer choices, it could be that your stimulus read was not sufficient. Do you prephrase what the correct AC could be before heading into the AC's? Are there consistent question types you get wrong? If so, it might be helpful to review core curriculum and do drills to rectify the problem.

I would recommend try keeping it in the head as a blob/ sequence of blobs rather than writing low res summaries in timed conditions. The goal of reading comprehension is not to remember or retain enough or every detail, but remembering through enough to know the general structure, where everything is, and where to look back on the details in the passage if asked on a question.

I know this might not sound the best to you, but if you're not scoring in your target range already (low 160s) or above target range, its not completely likely you can on the actual exam. It's not a completely closed possibility granted, but ideally you should write when you're at least scoring in the range or above.

Don't feel disheartened, the LSAT is very learnable. It will only kill your spirits and discourage you only if you let it. Every weakness or blind spot is an opportunity for growth and getting better at the test. I know a low diagnostic can be discouraging, but you are still very early in and still have lots to learn. Take your time with learning the CC and don't rush it, do the CC's problem sets. Foolproof the PT1-35 LG bundle, and continue foolproofing even when you start PTing and until you take the LSAT. Start PTing when you are comfortable with individual timed sections and have foolproofed PT1-35 LGs. Always blind review every PT to extract the most out of them and keep a wrong answer journal for each PT and timed section.

Thank you all for all the feedback, it's greatly appreciated and has given me some stuff to think about as I make my decision :)

I agree that 156 is not a terrible score, but unfortunately with my GPA which tends to be 0.1-0.2 below most schools' medians, I will be out of the majority if not all schools' reach, except for maybe 1-2 schools if I apply with a 156. So I know it is highly unlikely that I will be able to use the 156 even if kept on file. I live in Canada, and Canadian law schools are all reasonably competitive and expect a 160+ score for successful applicants, exception being if you have a very high gpa (~4.0).

I'm so sorry you're feeling this way and I hope you remember to take care of yourself right now and for the rest of your LSAT journey. There will be highs but many many many lows. Please remember (and I know it's very very hard not to feel like this) whatever PT score you get does not mean you are a failure/not smart enough/not meant for law school or being a lawyer. Hell I would argue that a good portion of people studying for this exam are super dedicated/motivated/highly intelligent people. The LSAT is not an IQ test, and while it is true some people start off higher, starting off lower does not exclude you altogether from getting a high score. If you have the drive and grit, you will get there eventually. It might just mean you need more time to work on and improve on x/y/z to get there. Where you are right now, does not mean that's the only destination you can go. But it is up to you to determine where you want to go and to put in the work to get there. The only advice I can give is to try to let go of putting too much importance or attachment on the score you get after a PT, after all it's just an indicator of where you are right now, remember to practice self-care and love and do things/hobbies outside of studying to keep yourself sane and relieve anxiety and stress. Meditating might also be a good way to control the anxiety prior to taking the exam and if practiced daily, can help reduce your anxiety. I hope this helps, and you can reach out to me if you need support/rant. I also deal with anxiety not just from the test but in life in general, but I learned you just need to find the right tools to manage them and I hope you can find some too.

Personally for me what worked in the past and now is redoing them blind without knowing the correct answer choice. I very rarely look back on my explanations or justifications for why the correct answer choice is right and the incorrect answers are wrong, only write them out as it forces me to articulate in detail. But it might be helpful as you go further on your LSAT journey to see how your mindset/reasoning has changed 3 months ago vs now so it's not something that shouldn't be kept or read at all again. I hope this helps!

Hi there, please don't feel bad and I hope you're not beating yourself up too much over it. It is a skill performance test and some people start off higher and others lower, nothing wrong with that :). Is there any possibility of postponing? I never took a diagnostic but my first PT after CC was a `148 so I also started probably with a very low diagnostic and completely understand how frustrating it can be. The quickest gains from my experience is just more exposure more PTs, reviewing CC to fill in gaps on knowledge, and really do a good indepth blind review. That alone should be enough to get you to the 150s, but going from 150s to consistently staying in 160s is a lot more work/effort and realistically you may need more time although I could be mistaken. I hope this helps!

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Hi there, I used to struggle with flaw question types but what helped me was drilling those question types specifically (medium, harder, and hardest once you can anticipate and answer one-two star difficulty questions with ease), identifying/recognizing cookie cutter flaws, and following JY's two step test (1-descriptively accurate and 2-actually describing the flaw) for questions that are harder to anticipate on intuition alone. The language can be abstract and challenging but I think more exposure to the material and the same flaws and consistent drilling should help you get over that barrier. I hope this helps!

Do you use analytics? I'm not sure if it's the equivalent to foolproofing LR in the same sense, but I've been finding it really helpful going back through previous LR sections I did in the recent three months and reworking the logic and the reasoning especially the day or two before taking a fresh PT. Also I found it really helpful during blind review to really juice the most out of the LR questions and analyze not only the ones you got wrong, but also the questions you spent too much time on compared to target time. Even if you got a four star or a five star question right, I would suggest doublechecking if the reasoning is correct in picking the right AC or if you just lucked out, especially if it's a curvebreaker question. Also helps to confirm with JY's explanation of the question too.

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Is this still happening hahah has a group been made? I am in Vancouver, have taken the June 2021 flex, and score anywhere from 156-163 on PTs with a blind review score in the 175-178 range. Trying again for November. If not, I can make one and if anyone is interested, please message me. I have been in study groups in the past, and currently looking for a serious one now.

@ I'm not sure relative to older tests hahah, but you might be right! There are a good amount of them. I'm also noticing more flaw and MSS questions in the 80s.

It might be worth reviewing the core curriculum if Strengthening/Weakening Qs are a concern. Other than that, if you are blind reviewing in-depth, you're off to a great start! Are you keeping a wrong answer journal by any chance? Keeping an answer journal is extremely useful as it forces you to articulate the reasoning behind one question, your task, why incorrect answers were attractive, any tricks the LR writers are trying to pull. Most importantly, it forces you to address any mistakes you made and state specifically what to do in the future to resolve them. Then do drills to rectify those mistakes (eg: if you're missing questions because you didn't spend enough time reading the stimulus/misread something, aim to do stimulus translation drills. If it's because you didn't prephrase before heading into the answer choices, try to do drills to identify any unwarranted assumptions/gaps in premises-> conclusion). As you do more timed LR sections, you will begin noticing cookie cutter flaws/structure in arguments as well as in the wrong answer choices and your performance will improve (eg: Weakening question that wants you to strengthen/weaken hypothesis, argument by analogy, common necessity sufficiency confusion in wrong AC's, etc) .

I completed my written section 2-3 weeks after the June 2021 flex. Was completely fine, they processed it and allowed me to see score the next day. I realize my situation may not be the the norm as they say it could take 1-3 weeks, but for me that was not the case. If you purchased score preview, the time starts when your score is released to you, so yes you will be given the chance to cancel if you choose to do so. I would worry about prepping for the LSAT and ensuring you are well rested in the weeks/days leading up to the exam :)