Hi 7Sagers, I previously prepared using Manhattan's prep course, then found 7sage, watched all the LG videos which were very helpful and stood out from other prep courses. Now wondering how much 7sage's lessons on LR and RC differ from Manhattan, will I learn anything new or different/helpful in terms of breaking down the arguments and zeroing in on answer choices? Manhattan had a pretty solid system. if anyone has used manhattan and can offer their feedback I'd especially appreciate it. Also might not be able to purchase the ultimate package.. will something basic like the starter pack help me improve on LR and RC or is it only the ultimate package that provides comprehensive training on LR
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Hi 7sagers,
I'm planning on retaking in Sept, already used up the newer tests in preparation for the June 2017 lsat. I found PT's 70-80 to have subtle and not so subtle differences from older ones. I previously prepared using Manhattan's prep course, and they pulled from mainly 50-80 but occasionally older ones.
I'm wondering how to improve on LR and RC now, when I'm so familiar with the newer test problems and answers. Will drilling from the very earliest PT's hurt my exam prep for Sept? I know it sounds funny, if someone has a solid understanding they should be able to do well no matter how old or new the exam but I was confused why, for example I did pretty bad on the LR in the 60s but much better on 70s.
Has anyone or heard of someone else who got into a school with an lsat score that is a few points below the 25th percentile? my gpa is higher than their 75th.
thank you both
is there any chance they read the div statement first? It's ok I'm not thrilled with it no matter how I write it but definitely want to include, happier with Personal statement though
thank you! does anyone agree/disagree?
do I also have to double space them? How long do they each have to be? no requirements written on the schools website.Can they be 10 point font smallest?
woohoo! you go!!! :wink: :smiley:
fantastic congratulations! did you write a letter of continued interest while on the waitlist? and did either of your jobs have to do with the legal field?
oh wow, ok thanks guys!!
thanks so much. please send good thoughts my way :smile:
Yes Dillon please let us know when to look for it online
Please do laugh, i need a good laugh even if it's at my expense, phew. Thank you for the hug (3 That did cross my mind but I can't deal that way I'd rather look it up on my own.which probably means i'll be holding my breath forever(/p)
I go back and forth between taking labored breaths like a woman in labor and imagining good things given how I was feeling on certain sections. I just got approved for waiver and still not seeing my score. It's very difficult to not know
Thank you guys, I can't remember any question in detail at all from the sections so I'm just going to let it go
Hi this may sound like a silly question but I want to make sure- I still haven't gotten my score back due to waiver appeal, but I see on other forums online that the real LR was sections 1 and 3. On my December test i had three LR reasoning sections, I believe they were sections 1,3 and 5 if i remember correctly. Not sure if I'm making this too complex, does that mean that for sure the first and third sections that I took were the real ones? I just didn't feel good about section 1, does that mean for sure it was the real section and not experimental or could i have been given the real sections in different order to take?
thank you westcoastbest for your feedback, I understand what you mean. I'm still left wondering if the vey first section which felt weird to me was experimental or just nerves from working on the first section. as logic gainz has said, having a plan is helpful and his plan seems like a good one, better than the one i had which was that i had to get the first ten in ten minutes correct, meanwhile maybe it's better to skip ahead since it's more likelyl that harder questions will be earlier in the section on recent tests.
Logic Gainz, Paul and Seharris I just want to say a very very overdue Thank You so much for all your advice and feedback. I found each so valuable and it means so much to me, thank you for your help
sorry Kermit, which app are you referring to? lsac app?
very helpful advice, thanks so much to each of you!!
Do schools know it can they see on your file that you've registered for an upcoming lsat? anyone sure of the answer to this one?
Hi is there anyone who is certain of the answer to this question -
when reapplying to the same school that you didn't get into the first time, can you submit the same letters of references and personal statement, if the only issue was your lsat score so you're reapplying with better score and that's it? I've been out of school a long time and LOR's were really hard to come by
no problem love this forum :) thank you and best of luck :)
I'll email the editors, thank you akistotle
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What is the best way to contact 7sage with questions about this? I have two questions:
I've written an addendum and feeling very so so about it. How do I go about getting help with just that portion of my application, are there 7sage teachers here who can help? Thanks
Thank you for breaking it down (and congratulations for getting into a great law school!)
I agree with you on all the above, only one school that I went to visit I was told at the end of the first year everyone participates in an oral argument in front of judges, it's required!
thanks sprinkles and LSATcantwin Yes but I'd still appreciate any feedback from anyone
I'm about to wrap up the application process, and to pass time I've been watching videos of moot court arguments, but I've watched mostly Yale and Harvard students. It seems so intimidating given how quickly they talk and the questions they're asked. Are all law school 1L presentations like this? I think I'm getting ahead of myself because I'm judging myself based on how well I can follow along with their arguments but i'm not even a law school student yet! Do you feel you've been well prepared to argue like these people on youtube?? I'm nervous now even though I was excited about law school before.
hi friends, does anyone know if
any info appreciated, good luck to everyone, may we all get into our dream schools xx
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Could someone please clear up for me? Thanks!
oy your comment is really helpful and now I'm conflicted :D someone suggested that a so-so diversity statement can hurt you even if you have a good personal statement so better to not include it
I don't feel so good about my diversity statement though I did make an effort. Everywhere i'm reading I see it's encouraged to write a diversity statement, especially for me since I'm of a different culture. I guess my question is can you still get in with just a personal statement or do most people make the effort to add to their application package even if it's not such a great diversity statement
Hi, does anyone know for sure whether law schools even read your personal statement after seeing that your lsat score is not in their desired range?
For those of who've taken the exam a couple times, if you do worse on your subsequent tries... I'm still unclear how all that plays out, I understand law schools are able to see all your previous scores, but if your most recent ones are worse, do they look at the most recent scores to make a determination or do they look at your highest score?
Hi I just took the lsat on Saturday, I had also taken my first one last June. I'm wondering if others get as nervous as I do when first starting the test, and also blank out momentarily. Just feeling everyone scrambling to start the test, I have a hard time understanding the first few questions. I think it lasted the whole section honestly.. I finally eased into it more by the second section. I thought I wouldn't feel this way on my second try at this test. I had three LR sections, I'm not sure if it was because my first one was experimental or not but either way it really go to me.
The first time I took it the room was small and I was crammed against other test takers and could hear their pencils scribbling furiously...it was all really distracting. I also didn't know that those sitting next to me were working on different sections so I thought I was behind, I felt a heat inside my head and chest and my brain went numb, like I couldn't understand what I was reading at all. Later on I took the same ptest at home and performed much better, in total disbelief that I'd missed so many questions due to nerves. This time (Saturday) the room was much larger, I had a corner seat so at least no one sitting on one side, and knew the person next to me was working on different sections from me so it didn't matter when they turned pages...but still, I was very nervous starting out even though I've practiced taking deep breaths.
Also I feel I had had enough practice of logic games from 1-81 with the help of 7sage and been exposed to enough weird games to feel confident, but still ran into some games on this recent test that I didn't know how to set up effectively. Did this happen to anyone else?
thanks so much your response helps! your profile name gave me a much needed smile too thanks :) anyone else who knows of success stories feel free to c hime in :)