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Thursday, Jan 31 2019

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Books that help with the LSAT

Meditations - Helpful for two reasons: one, helps you keep focus during studying and tests; two, helps you acquire a heart like a calm and reflective lake. (10/10 Most Recommended)

Fooled by Randomness - Helpful for two reasons: one, helps put into context many of the abstract RC topics; two, it helps you overcome instinctual trap answers. (10/10 Most Recommended)

Thinking Fast and Slow - Helpful for two reasons: one, helps put into context many of the abstract RC topics; two, it helps you overcome instinctual trap answers. (9/10 Highly Recommended)

Predictably Irrational - Helpful for two reasons: one, helps put into context many of the abstract RC topics; two, it helps you overcome instinctual trap answers. (8/10 Recommended)

Please do share if you guys have some recommended readings for improving your LSAT performance.

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Thursday, May 30 2019

I think the Hotel is a new location. Something happened to UBC and now the LSAT no longer is conducted at UBC. I hear burnaby and BCIT are great locations with very cool proctors. That's just anecdotal, though.

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Thursday, May 30 2019

If the dinosaurs didn't need to climb the trees, then why would they build their nests at the base of tree? They could have just built nests on the cliff side or anywhere else, if they can just lift off.

The thing about E that threw me off was that it states that "... lived at the time when...", which means that we cannot make any assumptions about whether or not the first flying dinosaurs had evolutionary pressure from these predators. To specify, we only know that there were these predators at the time when the dinosaurs already knew how to fly, and not before.

Hmmmm... but even though we cannot know for certain, I suppose the correlation between predators not climbing tree and the dinosaurs learning to fly does strengthen that they adapted to climbing and gliding. Nevermind.

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Friday, Sep 28 2018

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Weird LOR Situation

I have two situations I want to ask you guys about:

A while before and during my prep for LSAT and law school, I started doing angel investing, and got incredibly close to 2 founders at now multi-million dollar companies. I've changed and developed enormously during the last year or so, especially during the process of helping with their companies. I feel like they know me and speak for me better than any of my professors, and probably any past colleague or boss can. They have all eagerly offered to write and basically wrote it on the spot when I asked them if they would be my referrer, but I am not sure if I should use these. From an outside perspective, there is obviously a potential conflict of interest, as I am a partner and a shareholder in their life's work. Do you think I should use these letters?

One of my favourite professors has agreed to write a letter for me, but the thing is, I got a B-, and a B in his classes, meaning, I was not only not a top student, but in fact, a low performing student. However, that professor, who taught me marketing and entrepreneurship, knows that he affected me deeply, and is part of the reason why I changed from my traditional banking career, and went into the start-up world and then started getting involved in venture capital, and can provide a unique perspective to my application. It probably won't be too personal though, because it was about 5 years ago, and he probably didn't pay much attention to me. Do you think I should use his letter?

I really appreciate any insight on this topic. I know it may be a tad unusual, but I honestly don't quite know what to do. I'll probably end up using them though, if there are no strong objections, since I don't want to re-use past references and have been self-employed for too long now.

I just typed out this mass of text for a comment, and thought maybe it could help others as well. This response was in regards to a question about overcoming nerves and test day stress. Hope it can be useful for you:

Simulate the real experience, and induce even more pressure.

  • So you should always use the 7sage proctor. For me, I turn it down to 32 minutes and max out the noise and distraction levels.
  • Start every day 2 weeks leading up to the test as if you were going to take the test, and do your most difficult work early in the morning. Get use to waking up extremely early, and switching your brain to optimal capacity at 9AM.
  • Be realistic, and thus, relaxed

  • Know your limits, because going over them is easy, and can be horrifically detrimental, but also practice so hard that you know there was nothing more to be done, and just embrace fate.
  • You know your average score, and whether you took the PTs realistically or not, so you know where exactly you should be, and you should only expect to perform at or below average, and to expect otherwise is wishful thinking at best, and insane at worst.
  • You can always retake, so what's the big deal. Life won't end because you didn't get into law school this year. Look around you, and appreciate everything you have, and make the most of what's around you.
  • Be healthy

  • Know that science has proven an active and healthy lifestyle can contribute more to test taking than most other activities, so don't forego exercise and don't forego a healthy diet.
  • Also try to sleep at least 8 hours a day.
  • Nerves only exist when there are contradictions in our own minds, such as: having deep desires to achieve things that we know we probably can't actually achieve, or placing overwhelming value for specific results even when we know some things are not within our control (I use to have these contradictions in my head, and they rocketed my stress). Reconciling with our own self, and having our expectations connect with reality is the best way of getting rid of nerves, but if that isn't possible right now, then try to simulate even more extreme stress, so that the stress on the test day seems more tolerable in comparison (Imagine going sky-diving to overcome the fear of heights).

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    Monday, Jan 28 2019

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    Northwestern Interview Preparation

    As it is a point of distinction for NWPSL, there really isn't much material out there for us to prepare for this, so I thought I might share with you how I went from being unable to answer any questions in the given amount of time to answer every and any question they threw at me with ease and dexterity (and maybe you can see how much the process parallels the preparation for LSAT, and see how well preparing for LSAT can be a highly transferable skill if done properly). My starting point is probably lower than most of you. I deathly fear public speaking and interviews, and have had traumatic experiences that still make my forehead sweat and my hair stand when I think about them. But just like when I bomb an PT, I took a deep breath and chose to look at these failures as learning opportunities, and fuel to help me go farther.

    Luckily for us, everything we need to succeed in the NWPSL interview is already given to us in the form of the Kira App.

    I practiced the the whole month of Jan in conjunction with my LSAT prep, every day for 15-30 minutes. I will break down my experiences and results week by week.

    First week: I was not able to formulate any answers, and I embraced that. I didn't try to brute force the questions and ramble off answers. Like with the LSAT questions stems, I tried to systemize my approach to these questions. So even though I wasn't able to answer any of the questions, I just kept listening to the sample questions, categorizing them, and breaking them down. By the end of the first week, I was confidently able to put every question they offered into one of four categories in a 2x2 matrix. On the x axis were the two types of questions: one, the X, Y, and C question types, which I define to be "tell me about a thing (X), why (Y) did you choose this thing, and conclude (C) what it meant to you" - an example in their words would be something like: "tell me what you are most disciplined in, and why?"; two, the S,T,A, and R question types, which many of us have heard about before, and is an acronym for situation, task, action, and result - an example in their words would be something specific like: "tell me about a challenging professional situation, how you resolved it, and what did you learn." or something vague like: "tell me a time you had to change someone's perspective." On the y axis were the two styles of responses I believe they expect: one is the professional business style interview response; and the other is the informal, coffee chat style interview response. I believe they want to see both sides of you. You will be able to differentiate these two based on the interviewer and their tone of voice. By the end of the week, with this matrix, I was able to start matching a few experiences to broad concepts that can apply to a bunch of questions. This simplification and streamlining process is key for those of us who are not natural speakers, since we can reduce the number of things we think about, and use a few flexible experiences to respond to almost infinite questions.

    Second week: I was able to formulate broken or half responses to some of the questions. To clarify, in case it wasn't clear by this point, I used a notebook to write down my X, Y, C, or S, T, A, R's, and took notes on the questions and analyzed my responses for every question. Reviewing the recording is key, just like how you can learn a lot about your weaknesses by watching recordings of your PT, you can see every single mistake you make in interviews and try to fix them. By this point, I realized that the crux was that finishing early was a much better alternative than not finishing, and that rambling was the worst possible outcome next to complete silence. So I created some concrete rules for myself, such as: one, no tangents or background stories unless I still have 3/4ths of the timer left; two, start concluding before the 2/3rds timer mark. Background information doesn't matter; this is not a short story; you aren't graded on narrative; just get to the point. Pay attention to the timer. One minute is incredibly short, and we cannot treat this interview like any other. Just like the LSAT, it is better to skip certain things and get to the end, than to not finish. By the end of the second week, I was able to answer a some questions by rote that I have seen a handful of times at this point. I also realized, by practicing everyday, at different times of the day, that I answered much better in the afternoon/evening, than in the morning. Another thing that I noticed was that proper framing and recording techniques mattered, so what I mean here is: that your camera should be eye level; the frame should show a bit more than the top of your head on the top, and a bit more than your chest on the bottom (preferably show your hands to gesticulate); you should be either in the center of the frame, or slightly to the side, but if you are off centered, then it looks better to turn your body towards the camera.

    Third week: I was very familiar with my matrix and was able to fairly confidently draft and talk about any topic the questions threw at me, but still had some rough edges. I was still tense, and often looked away from the camera when the topic was unfamiliar to me. Luckily, my brother was visiting me at the time, and I asked him for some feedback. He is younger than I, but was the social one of us, and he gave me one advice, to talk as if I was talking to a friend. This really helped, although it was a little unnatural at first. To further compensate for my nerves, I discovered that I was much more relaxed and better at the interview after I worked out, and something else that I did that helped, but I don't recommend, is I drank a ounce of wine 15 minutes beforehand. By the end of the third week, I was just going through the motions, and everything was pretty much just clicking into place, like some 1 or two star LR questions.

    Fourth week: I only had a few days left before I needed to do the real interview, and was getting a bit nervous due to the impending deadline. But I told myself to believe in the system and the process. For the last two days, I was just practicing as if it were the real interview. One thing I discovered this week that helped was that if I had the chance to meet with peers or friends to chat earlier that day, my responses came out more friendly and more naturally, so I organized a lunch on the day of the interview to chat and catch up with friends.

    Actual Interview: Almost everything I prepared for came in exactly as I needed. I was relaxed and natural. The categorization helped put me into a flow that just helped ideas slide out. It was like antifreeze for my frozen brain, especially for topics I was unfamiliar with. The only thing that I did, but turned out to be unnecessary was that I differentiated responses that were 1 minute long and 1.5 minutes long. On the actual interview, all my questions only gave me 1 minute. Most of them were formal, 2 of them were informal. About half of them required the XYC format, and half required the STAR format. I just wore my comfortable clothes, which included sweatpants, and alumni jacket for my undergrad college.

    In conclusion, everything's coming up Milhouse? This process was so helpful, I wish I could pay to have access to it again. It was such a wonder way to practice for interviews in general.

    I apologize for the long post, but I thought maybe someone would appreciate the detailed process.

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    Sunday, Jan 27 2019

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    A trick for "Vulnerable" Questions

    There are two archetypes for answer choices: one that starts with something along the lines of "presume", "assume", or "takes for granted"; another that starts with something along the lines of "ignores", "overlooks", or "fails to take into account".

    Most of us can do these questions based on intuition, especially if we use the method that JY taught us. I still visualize the goku doing his kamehameha blast on the car. But for some of the harder, more abstract questions, for me, it helps to realize what these two answer choice stems are saying.

  • When the answer choice says the argument assumes X, the best way to treat this answer choice is as if it were a NA answer choice, and negate it to see if that assumption was necessary, and if so, indeed, without it, the argument is vulnerable.
  • When the answer choice says the argument overlooks X, the best way to treat this answer choice is as if it were a standard weakening answer choice, and just plus the answer choices back into the argument, and see if the kamehameha beam gets bigger or smaller.
  • Hope this helps, cheers =)

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    Sunday, Jan 27 2019

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    LG Sixth Sense

    Something I have been reflecting on, and I think can help some of you who just started on the LSAT journey are some of the hacks I gained over time. I call them the LG sixth sense. When doing questions, sometimes, you can just feel whether you did something wrong. For example, when you do your acceptable situation question, you can learn from that whether you properly diagrammed the board; when you see a lot of CBT/MBT/CBF questions, you can probably assume that this game can be split into very explicit sub-boards; when you run into a local question stem, but no clear big inference pops up, you probably missed a rule or misunderstood something. These just hacks that came to me after review lot of games critically.

    Do you guys have some hacks that you have developed over time for LGs? If so, why not share it? Thanks, and cheers =)

    Today, many of us, including myself, took the Jan LSAT. Congratulations for having survived the tribulation. I just wanted to share a little anecdote with you, my peers.

    For me, today, on the very question of the very last section, as the proctor called out for us to drop the pencil, I noticed I had chosen the wrong answer. I immediately felt a monstrous and bestial or animalistic urge to change the answer choice, but I stopped myself, then came a sense of indignance, but soon after, I only felt relief as I just closed my eyes and closed my booklet. Discipline. Acceptance. Confidence. I believe I have started to grasp all these things now, and that one wrong question didn't matter in the face of true growth.

    Some of you know might know I got expelled from the Nov LSAT because I did not drop my pencil fast enough, and I have tried my best to learn from that experience. As many of you pointed it, "duh", and logically I agree. But emotionally, it was truly excruciating, especially when so many around me in that test or even today, did the same thing and were unpunished, and especially since I was practicing at, what I believed, to be my peak capabilities. But logic must triumph over emotions. Just because other people weren't punished, doesn't mean I didn't deserve to be punished, and it was only just that I was punished. We dedicate so much to this test, and to get completely denied, and permanently labeled, like that was soul shaking. I had to take time completely away from the LSAT, and 7sage.

    I had to really look into myself about why I felt so bad, and indignant, because I knew I didn't deserve to feel like that. I was in the wrong. I discovered that, at that point, I was deeply emotionally and illogically attached to the LSAT. Many people on the forums have described the LSAT journey as an obsession, and for me, it was an unhealthy one. I needed to change so that this wouldn't happen to me again. This meant not only strategic and competency changes, but also mental changes, so that I won't even be tempted again. I wrote a short post about the "5 Minutes Remaining" method that helped me strategically. In terms of mentality, however, I had to get out of my own head, change my mindset from a subjective one to an objective one. I had to truly embrace that LSAT isn't worth getting upset, anxious, or depressed about, that law school was just one out of infinite options, and that if something was fated to happen, or if something was able to teach me something, then it cannot be a bad thing and that if it wasn't a bad thing, then I shouldn't feel bad. Whatever happened, happened, and whatever will happen, will happen.

    Sitting here right now, I don't know if I did better in this test or not, but at this point, I don't think it really matters. It's all in fate's hands now. I'm just proud because I didn't make the same mistake again, but not out of fear of punishment, but because I knew what was right, and what was logical, and what was meaningful to me.

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    Sunday, May 26 2019

    #help

    JY's explanation makes a lot of sense. I also saw another flaw in that if X is correlated with ~Y, we cannot claim that X is not correlated with Y. Can someone else let me know if this makes sense? It is still correlated, right, but just inversely so?

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    Thursday, Apr 25 2019

    There's a lot of Canadian representation here. Woot~

    Hey there, fellow 7sage students. This is a collection of thoughts from chatting with others on 7sage and I thought it might be helpful to share.

    Mentality and Getting Back on Track

    First off, I want to say it's going to be ok. It's ok to lose to the LSAT some times. It's ok to concede and retreat, and recover to fight another day. The LSAT is hard and although some people on the forums surprisingly will consistently get 180s, most won't. I've talked to some of the sages and tutors on 7sage, and they all agree on this: that one of the most essential skills to take away from LSAT is the ability to walk away from defeat without giving up, and to be able to get up after taking a punch.

    For me, after I get a hard punch in the face, I usually need some sort of external stimulus, and that's usually a book, a friend, or maybe just a good old bottle of whiskey, just something that will help me ice the bruise, but remind me why I'm doing this in the first place. I remind myself that I actually like the LSAT, and going to law school. I profoundly look forward to the challenge and opportunities they offer, and additionally, I am confident in my persistence, and that my persistence will yield results. And I believe those qualities apply to you as well. Constantly remind yourself of your intrinsic motivation and that you can overcome the LSAT. But like I said, even with these two internal factors, I still need a little external help. So build a support system for yourself. My favourite books for this are: The meditations, by marcus arelius, Prinicples, by ray dalio, A man's search for meaning, by viktor frankl. Or podcasts, like this american life, serial, or one not even related to law. Essentially, they just remind me to stop being a whiny little bitch and take it like a (wo)man. If that's too much commitment, then feel free to talk to me, or make a post about it on the forums, and the others and I will be happy to help you get back on track! If you didn't notice, under my earlier vent about my big drop, a lot of peers gave very helpful advice and cheered me on. You can do that too =). We're here for each other.

    Also, remember that time is limited, and running out, and remember that regret sucks more than trying your best and failing. I've regretted so many things in my life, that at this point that I am intimate with it and can feel it just by closing my eyes, and can use it to motivate myself so that I won't have to feel it again. If you don't want to feel regret, then let your actions prove that. We have 3 weeks left (if you're taking november), and that's very little time; really only 2 weeks left, since we're not suppose to study hard on the last week. So just put everything into these last two week, so you won't have to regret anything. There is an added benefit of feeling a lot less stress when you go into a test knowing you did everything you could, whether or not you will able to achieve a specific score.

    Back on Track and Stronger than Before

    It's ok to regress sometimes, but with that said, there's definitely no excuse not to learn something from your defeats. In fact, I welcome terrible defeats, because it'll be easier for me to recognize my mistakes and weaknesses than under normal conditions. Ask yourself: have you noticed any patterns or trends in your recent PTs that differ from previous PTs? Using the LSAT analytics, or just by tallying the mistakes yourself, you should be able to find some obvious weaknesses in your skillset.

    That's step one, recognition. Step two is both the more straightforward and difficult part. You have to drill.

    For some people, just redoing the core curriculum for the question types that they're weak on will fix the problem, but doing it right is the hard part. It's not perfect, but this is how I drill: I aim for perfection in drills, to do 5, 10, 15, or 25 hardest questions in a row, timed, and get none of them wrong. How do you get there? By taking it slowly and incrementally. I'll further break this down into smaller parts:

    First, start with easier questions, and do them timed.

    Second, BR them, but here's the important part: don't just BR them the way you normally would. Instead, now that you're not timed, take your pencil and, whenever you can, write down how you would pre-phrase the answer, write down the exact reason why you think the answer you chose is the right answer, and, if you can, also write down why you think a trap answer is attractive, but ultimately wrong (and ignore the obviously wrong answer choices). (Now, I see a lot of people doing this in the comments under questions, and that's great, but few people do it correctly. For reference, 7sage alumn, Accounts Playable, does it well)

    Third, watch the video for any questions you circled or got wrong, but when you're watching it, don't just follow along; instead, I want you to actively engage with and try to anticipate and predict how JY would explain the question as he goes through it, and take notes on how his actually explanation conformed to or differed from your prediction. This is an important part of my mantra of: anticipate the JY, feel the JY, become the JY. Quite a few 7sagers have come out to say that they've started to think like JY, and I believe they probably used a similar process.

    Fourth, move up a difficulty (according to the question bank), when you have gotten 10 or 15 questions of that difficulty correct in a row... or at least if you feel like you've gotten there, and repeat the steps.

    Fooled by Randomness

    Consistency is hard; it is a goal. But don't be discouraged because you're inconsistent. Just a few weeks ago, one of my test was 10 points below my average score, and even ignoring that test, my score has an upper/bottom spread of +/-3. I think over time, luck plays a part in the score too. Sometimes, you get a hard science or law passage that just destroys your mojo for the whole test, and other times, everything just goes your way. If you think about what the LSAT is, a large part is really just a game of probability. To illustrate this, here's an example:

    Even if you can BR 180, I suspect that under timed conditions, you would consistently have anywhere from 10-12 questions that you're not 100% certain about. You've eliminated 3 answer choices, but are left deciding between two. On average, that's a -5/-6, and on a good day, it can be a -3, but alternatively, on a bad day, that can be a -10. That's almost a 10 point score difference purely from luck. On top of that, we have to consider the variability of mood and physical conditions, and that's another few points that you can't really control. So expect inconsistency, and focus on the factors that you 'can' control. Remind yourself that being nervous about such things that are out of your control is meaningless, and hopefully that will help sooth the stress.

    Hope this helps =)

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    Thursday, Jan 24 2019

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    The "5 Minutes Remaining" Strategy

    This has been something that works for me. In the past, I have found that when the timer calls out 5 minutes left, even if I only barely started on the last passage, I can usually finish the passage and questions before the time is up, and not notice a significant score decrease in those last passages. Taking this knowledge with me, I approached a whole section with this mentality, and was able to consistently finish before the 5 minutes warning, and having the time to go back to hard questions with a fresh eye helps tremendously, allowing me to digest all the information I previously read. This is similar to what I did when I conducted confidence drills, but this gives me a more tangible sense of urgency.

    The hard part was not losing the sense of urgency. Usually, by the third passage, I start slowing down, and need to remind myself that I'm running out of time.

    I would also say that this is not a technique that works for everyone, and is probably fairly advanced. You may have to first master the memory method or other fundamental techniques first before this can consistently be applied.

    Hope this helps. Cheers~

    PS: Just did the test, and can confirm, at least for myself, the "5 minutes remaining" strategy did wonders. It keeps the adrenaline pumping non-stop. I can't confirm that I did well, but I did finish every section before the 5 minutes call, and probably both logic game sections and an LR section with about 10 minutes left.

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    Friday, May 24 2019

    #help

    Is it not the case that by definition, if one person is less observant, then another person is less noticed? It might be because I have an antisocial disorder. I fail to see the difference in perspective that JY says between C and E.

    Is there ever a case where one is less noticed, but another is not less observant? Is it because the less noticed can be caused by other things, such as blindness?

    Additional point: I read "we" as meaning people or humanity in general in this case.

    I was doing a bunch of research on this topic, but at the end of the day, I can't seem to really find the benefits of such programs. @oshun1 posted a discussion about JD-LLM in International Law. I'm curious about the concept of such a program, and don't see the point. For many schools, you can learn the exact same things, and can spend a semester abroad as a normal JD. The same goes for the other joint programs too. So, for those applying to joint-programs, can you please share what is the benefit of the JD-LLM, or other joint programs? Is it more prestigious during and after graduation? Does it allow for more opportunities and resources? Thank you.

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    Tuesday, Jan 22 2019

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    To those anxiously waiting for responses

    Many of your say that you've made your peace, and are ready to accept any outcome that comes to you.

    The thing I would say is that, it doesn't sound like you're truly ready to move on. It doesn't sound like you've sincerely internalized the possibility that you won't get into anywhere you like, and can move on, because if you have, then you wouldn't be anxious. Embrace that other side of the coin flip, because that's what this is, it's out of your control now, and simply a coin flip.

    I would say that you should focus on other things, things that are in front of you, and things that you've put off because of law school. Learn to love fate, wherever it takes you, and whatever it gives you. The likely truth is, you will be just as happy, if not happier, without law school, and you've learned a lot about being a logical and good person from this experience either way. Look at the long run, 5, 10 years down the line, there is no guarantee that having gone to law school would mean you would have a better future. The legal job market is more competitive than ever before, people are working more hours and taking longer to make partner; relationships suffer; you might be making more money, but there is no guarantee that you will be happier; IIRC, turnover is higher than ever before; you would have spent 3-4 years in a grueling bootcamp, and another 2-3 years insufferably working 80+hours a week. Is losing this future really worth getting anxious about? Don't let the delusions of law school success blind you. Sure, it sounds good, and prestigious, but do you need that in life? Remember there is survivorship bias in every area of life. Even if you got into law school, what's to guarantee that you would do well, or even not flunk out or not fall into depression like so many current law students?

    Every close friend I have spoken to, who is a current student or alumni, talk to me about law school with shades of regret and sadness, and they're all incredibly successful relative to their peers in T14 schools. This has helped me understand that law school, like anything else in life, is not all it promises to be, and that the grass only looks greener on the other side, but isn't really.

    Hope this ramble helps you feel better. Cheers

    PS: I'm glad that everyone has such positive outlooks. Know that I'm not saying everyone going to law school is going to be miserable, as you should be able to do with so much practice with MBT questions. All I'm saying is that this is a possibility, and life is unpredictable, and any path you take, will be a good one, as long as you choose to walk it with a positive attitude.

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    Wednesday, Mar 20 2019

    @ said:

    @ said:

    @ said:

    So do the 50-100 questions in one sitting? Just curious.

    Maybe over the course of a weekend? Depends on your definition of "one sitting". Hahaha

    Ha ha!

    How did you do it? One day? or spread among multiple days? I am just trying to gauge your process.

    Multiple days, BRing, and taking notes of ones I couldn't get to review them later. Basically fool proofing, but for LR.

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    Wednesday, Feb 20 2019

    Congrats Nikita (is that you?). Seeing this makes me smile. Hope you get into your dream schools, keep up the good work, and keep doing good things for those around you. Wish you the best on the next step in life.

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    Sunday, Jan 19 2020

    @ said:

    Hi fellow Sagers,

    I have been studying and studying for what feels like eternity, and following 7sage CC, an in person commercial prep course, and numerous books and guides, I finally took to some serious self studying. My PTs range from 153-159, with an average of 157. 160+ is the goal for me, but no matter what I do, I haven’t seemed to climb past this plateau. I acknowledge that the curve is less forgiving as you climb up, but I cannot seem to catch balance. My plan for my next (and final) LSAT take has been to use the Digital Problem Set to do timed sections because my PT score hadn’t moved following a dozen exams since my last write. My review process has been as follows:

    My peak was after I went through the 7sage course twice, and trying to predict the explanations and course material on the second time through.

    For LR: I paraphrase the stimulus if it’s an argument in my own words, write it out, rationale for each answer choice, during BR and Review. I try to come up with my own explanations before consulting 7Sage explanations. I completed all of the PTs 60-69 before opting for more timed sections from 36-59. I’m at PT 59 on RC and LG, in the 40s in LR at present.

    Have you identified any patterns after you consult the 7sage explanations for answers you've missed? In my opinion, we can generalize mistakes into about 5 categories, such as too narrow, too general, lacking directionality, tricked by relevant words, misreading, etc. Recording these mistakes and reviewing my reasons for making these mistakes help me recognize and respond to questions with more awareness.

    For RC: High/ Low Res summaries of passage, tracking my time distribution in a chart for how long I spend reading passage vs. the questions, comparing both to JY’s target times.

    RC is 7Sage's one weakness. The memory method is strong, but having used Manhattan prep, the trainer, powerscore, kaplan, and 7sage, the one thing that other courses teach that really helped me was how to skim. It blew my mind how powerful this was. I was very dubious about this approach at first, because 7sage teaches us to read everything, but I tested skimming with pretty good results:

    I usually had to reread that section anyway

    Less than one question per passage would ask about what I skimmed/skipped

    Skim when you see: moreover, for example, furthermore, in addition, in particular, etc (some times, you can even skim whatever follows 'because', because support structure is so much less meaningful in RC)

    This may or may not work for you, but might be interesting to try.

    LG is my strong suit— FPM of every game at 75% accuracy or above (usually above).

    That's really not good enough, unfortunately. I'm sure you have a sense of this, but if you have a 95% accuracy for LG, you will likely exceed your score goal, right? Getting 95% is possible for everyone. Do every game you have trouble with 5 times over the course of of the next few weeks, and you will get there.

    My individual section scores in LR range from anywhere from -4/-6 to -9/-12 and I don’t understand where that high upper end comes from as if I had never studied. In RC as well as -4/-5 and on some days -10/-11 as if I had never studied. It fluctuates in timed sections so much I haven’t taken full PTs, but will do individual questions followed by immediate review.

    I don’t know what else to do. I don’t see how I can get the score I need to with such immense fluctuations and an inability to hit anywhere near my goal during an official write. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Suggestions, please?

    Thank you!

    I have seen other LSAT takers do this, and I also highly recommend it. I suggest doing the fool-proof method for every section. Record your mistakes, analyze and meditate on them, record your self-criticism, and redo the questions at a later date. Practice makes perfect, and practicing smart is more important than practicing hard.

    PS: I was reading a comment you wrote about "Why Law" a while ago, and your comment really helped me. I hope I can help you in some way as well. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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    Thursday, Oct 18 2018

    yifeiwang926

    Keep it up guys, one month left!

    LSAT rewards those who persevere, and what is life if not one long journey of perseverance. If you want it enough, then you will be able to do it. Temper your goals though, and go about it incrementally. Getting to your goal may takes months, if not years. Have the right mindset and expectations, and you will be able to go further. There is no shortcut, only heartfelt triumphs after profound struggling.

    Personally, I have a 3.0 gpa, so to get into the top schools, I must get at least a 99 percentile lsat score. At some point you realize that improving is the easy part, and trying my best not to decline, now that gets depressing. To some degree, I think one has to become obsessed, or a hermit or a monk; harnessing motivation wherever you can and finding meaning in every little thing in life, good and bad, and devoting ungodly amounts of time to this seemingly marathon without end.

    In another perspective, if you can get through this, you can just about get through anything. This is why the LSAT can be a good indicator and preparation for law school. Add oil!

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    yifeiwang926
    Saturday, Jan 18 2020

    @ said:

    @ said:

    UofT is internationally equivalent to T10

    Legal system in the USA and Canada are vastly different. No such thing as being internationally equivalent.

    You're right. I'm oversimplifying. Since @ is asking about UofT, has applied, and got accepted, I made the assumption that he or she is considering working internationally, so I wanted to provide an opinion that had practical applications. There is no perfect, direct comparison between US and Canadians schools, but having worked in 6 countries, including both the US and Canada, I can with some idea say that UofT and T10 are pretty equivalent in terms of value for a graduate. What I am considering include network, reputation, education, and employment opportunities. If you want to work in a particular state, then it is strongly advised that you go to a top school close to or within that state. To reiterate though, my main point is that unless the original post has family, or is tied to Minnesota in some other way, UofT is my recommended choice.

    Since @ is tied to Minnesota, then everything is up in the air. This is a bit late now, but I recommend calling UofT and asking them to refer some alumni or current students to you so that you can make a more informed decision. From reading your comments, it doesn't seem like you had any particular reason for applying to UofT, and only applied to cask a wider net. If that is the only reason, I would not recommend UofT, because UofT is a lot more rigorous, scholastically, than many schools and is very competitive (source are friends who were comparing their experiences at UofT, York University, Georgetown, and Fordham).

    Hope this helps, cheers

    I finished the section but was still bubbling when the head proctor called time and was called out by one of them. I deserve what happened and will try again in January. I’m just going to put my head down and work hard so that I won’t be lacking those last few seconds next time. Any one here have experience with this and can share some insight?

    It's hard for me to even understand how people get a perfect score for RC, because there are always answers that I can't get, even after BR and then, even after I watch JY's videos. I have never been able to get a perfect RC section, and recognize that it's my biggest weakness.

    For people who can get close to 180 or people who get perfect RC sections, what is one thing you changed or developed that helped you get to where you are for RC sections? You insight would be much appreciated and invaluable. Thank you. =)

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, May 16 2019

    #help

    Can anyone explain to me why E is the answer for 11?

    To me, the Native Soil movement never stood in "opposition" of anything. A reaction does not need to be inherently negative, right? In fact, all we know about it is that it came from the preoccupation with rural life of the Scar Art movement, and it was "co-opted for" some political purpose, perhaps that purpose was Revolutionary Realism. We simply don't know, right?

    D stood out to me, because we know for a fact that the Native Soil movement was "romanticized", "idealized", and "political", and we know that it originally came out of the Scar Art movement. All of these points suggest that it indeed had points in common with the Revolutionary Realism, which is in opposition to its origin of the Scar Art movement.

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    Thursday, Nov 15 2018

    yifeiwang926

    PSA: Name on Ticket has to Match Exactly

    Remember! They've changed their policy since September about identification. It now has to match exactly with what you inputted for LSAC.

    My name is not standard, and although I always write my name as one word, government offices always separate my name into two parts. So I had to update my profile to match my ID exactly last week. Make sure you guys do the same!

    They say it takes 3-5 days for them to get back to you, but in my case, they updated my name in minutes after I sent the email, so I think they're trying their hardest to accommodate people who have to make changes in response to the change in policy.

    Just a PSA~ Talk to you all after Saturday. =)

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    @ said:

    Both would do a solid job of helping you get into big law.

    Really interesting approach! Great insight

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    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    Not sure what your question actually means, but yeah. BR everything. Including the drills in the core curriculum. But before you finish the CC, it's understandable if you can't solve some of the questions, and it's ok to not get everything. Just make a record of the questions you couldn't figure out and come back to it later?

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    @ said:

    "Resources" --> "LSAT Analytics" --> "Trends"

    and then scroll down, yup

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    yifeiwang926
    Friday, Jun 14 2019

    @ said:

    I would probably let it go. You could always let LSAC know that one of their moderators behaved inappropriately but I don't know that it's even worth your time. I personally would want to remove myself from that situation as much as possible.

    Yeah, that's my thinking too. Thanks for the feedback.

    @ said:

    I agree with the majority here that bringing this up to LSAC this late is probably a bad idea for several of the reasons that have already been posted in this thread.

    Hmmm, yeah, I also think there isn't much to it at this point. Thanks for the feedback.

    @ said:

    To the OP: I’m very sorry this happened to you. People touching you without permission is never ok. I would perhaps see if filing a report would make it so that law schools see it or not. Proctors are often hired by the test center, not LSAC, so contacting the center to file a complaint could also work. Just make sure the complaint doesn’t backfire. Once again I’m truly sorry that happened.

    I considered filing a report for one reason: to warn LSAC of this incident, because it legitimately was distressing. Thinking back to the incident, combining my regret, self-punishment, and the shock of being physically disturbed, makes me feel nauseous, and have trouble breathing. I honestly still have trouble thinking of that incident as an assault though, because I was am so use to a different definition of assault. I have no intention of using this, if I file, as leverage in any way to benefit me. I just think no one needs to feel the added distress that I felt, when the scenario of knowing months of your time being Thanos'ed into nothingness is distressing enough already. LSAC should really make it clear that physical contact is unnecessary/unacceptable.

    @ said:

    I appreciate your comments and I agree with that it is important to support people when you can. As it relates to your first part about torts, that was my point. Trying to prove intent without injury one year later would be next to impossible.

    Good point. It would be really pointless if it becomes an effort to prove intent. In regards to your other points, I cannot confirm. All I know is the source I linked (the youtube video), which I do not know the accuracy of, clearly states that intent to harm is not a requirement of assault. The law is not clear to me, which is part of the reason why I am made this post. I believe the law is beautifully flexible, and am not committed to either view.

    @ said:

    @ taking this way to seriously my dude. No one here is a lawyer yet. Nor does it really matter if OP can prove assault or not. OP is just asking for some simple advice, no need to fight everyone about the law. Simple "this is a good idea" or "this is a bad idea" would be enough. Also, understanding that there may not be a "right" answer and opinions can differ may help as well.

    Thanks, as always, for the sage wisdom.

    @ said:

    Me personally? You touch me or my property and you’re going to be pulling back a stump. No score is worth someone putting their hands on me.

    Yeah. Some times, the emotions get to me, but I want to be hyper rational about this, and I'll probably not do anything, or just write a short report telling them my side of the story, and stating that I do not want anything for my benefit, and just wanted them to have this piece of feedback.

    Thanks everyone, for the feedback.

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    Monday, Jan 14 2019

    yifeiwang926

    Advice for parallel reasoning speed

    These questions consistently take me three minutes to do when they're in the 4 or 5 stars difficulty. Takes me a minute to read and diagram the stimulus and then another two to read or diagram the answer choices, and I still get them wrong sometimes because of rushing. Do you guys have any advice on how you tackle these questions quickly? Thanks =)

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    Try searching the forums for past discussions about this topic? I think very few of the frequent users will have too much insight on this topic, since we're mostly still 0L or pre-application.

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    if you have the money for it, ultimate plus is the clear winner. It's not about the tests. It's about the access to practice questions and the flexibility to build custom drills and tests.

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    yifeiwang926
    Thursday, Feb 14 2019

    @ said:

    I'm also a Berkeley BLOS final candidate, so we'll see how that goes. If there's anything I could do to help out (reading personal statements, why x's, application process for any of the schools that I mentioned) I'd be more than happy to help out--please feel free to message me.

    Oh wow, you are in the running for some great things. Keep your head up. None of your choices will be bad.

    Every 10 or so PTs I just get slapped with a 10 or even 15 points below average score. Seriously. Does this happen to anyone else? I don't even really know how it happens, maybe a confluences of bad circumstances, but all in all, it's an extremely curious experience.

    This time, in particular, I think part of it was because of the stress. I had promised to record and show people a full 5 section PT, to both give them a different perspective and get feedback, and I think part of me felt pressured to do really well. I wanted to prove myself, because I've always had a -10 decrease from my PT average when taking the real LSAT, and felt like maybe I was a fraud. Because of this doubt, like a self-fulfilling prophecy, I had a restless night, and got sick.

    And at last, I proved myself to be a fraud. It felt really uncomfortable to have this fear, and to have an experience confirm this fear. Even though my average score tells me otherwise, I can still honestly believe my fears have come true. I start to think that maybe my previous 5 or 10 tests were the outliers and that my real abilities are truly reflected solely in this one test. This is probably a form of cognitive dissonance, and it freaks me out. Since then, I've taken another PT, and it was at a formal setting, with other 7sagers. So I know it is a legit score, and my score immediately jumped back up to my previous average. Deep down, I am still confident in my capabilities and my ability to overcome this fear, but there's now a constant little feeling clawing at the back of my mind.

    I honestly view this as a very revealing and positive experience, because I've realized perhaps my biggest weakness: severe performance anxiety. I now have a clear goal, and like Ray Dalio says, terrible is better than mediocre. Moving forward, I will be recording myself and showing it to others again. Hopefully it will help me get over this nagging thought in my mind. Thanks for reading.

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    Monday, Feb 11 2019

    yifeiwang926

    Studying and Memorization Advice

    Reading a bunch of posts recently about law school prep, I realized that I don't really know how to study. This sounds weird for a person trying to get into law school, but it's just my reality. I suspect that the readers on this forum know what they're doing much more than most, and was wondering if you can share some of your insights or hacks on how you memorize and study?

    I've check out apps like quizlet and scribd, courses like larrylawlaw and the coursera law introduction, and they seems really helpful.

    My current plan is to take notes on paper during class, and then synthesize my notes into an outline on my computer.

    What do you guys think of my plan so far?

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    Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

    Unless you're pretty tied to Minnesota, UofT is internationally equivalent to T10, and is the Harvard of Canada (best for big law, and huge network), so I would recommend UofT. Congrats on your acceptances!

    Last year, I was kicked out of an LSAT administration because I did not drop my pencil in time. Getting kicked out was perfectly understandable. I violated a rule, and got what I deserved.

    What I didn't understand at the time was that, in their report, the administrators left out a very important piece of information, namely how I ended up dropping my pencil. An administrator forcefully made contact with me, and essentially smacked the pencil out of my hand. To clarify, it was not that I took a long time to drop the pencil; instead, she stood next to me during most of the test, because I sat in the corner, so she just happened to be there was the time was called (there were people still writing afterwards). Although a tutor from 7sage said I should bring this up to LSAC, at the time, I thought it would be pointless or meaningless. Or maybe it was because my Asian parents have taught me that being hit for doing something bad in an academic environment is normal. But then, I watched the following youtube video, and learned that assault is assault, and that they should be held responsible for what they did, as I was.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what, if anything, I should do?

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    Thursday, Nov 08 2018

    yifeiwang926

    If the LSAT were the last thing I do.

    I don't know if this helps, but sometimes, I think of events in life as my dying act. You know the saying: live every day like it's your last? Corny, and perhaps morbid, but if used correctly, I think it can help us focus our mental energy. For example, the LSAT: if the LSAT were the final act in my life, it would matter not to me whether I achieve a certain score; instead, what would matter to me would just be that I tried my best. The goal in life is to find contentment and satisfaction, and all that really requires is just knowing we did what we could. The score is unchangeable, and meaningless in this scenario, since I would be long gone.

    This perspective helps to treat the test as an end for its own sake, and not merely as a means to something else, even if it so clearly is. This perspective also helps to divide big goals into smaller steps so we can focus on one thing at a time. This exercise is a classic buddhist meditation, and I assume is part of the reason why some monks are so chilled about everything. I hope it can help you.

    When doing this question, I could not agree with JY's explanation no matter how many times I've heard it. I simply think his reasoning on why he eliminated answer choice A is incorrect. In absolute terms, the rain will definitely increase, because we know the proportion of precipitation as rain has also increased, so in relative terms too, rain has increased more compared to snow.

    To me, this answer choice can only be eliminated because of the use of "probably" in both the answer choice and in the stimulus. How should I understand the use of probably, though?

    Should I think of it as "in most cases", meaning, in more than 50% of the cases? In that case, I suppose that just like how when given A-most->B-most->C, we can't make any inferences between A and C, in this question, the two cases of "probably" disconnect the causal relationship in the argument, and therefore does not actually strengthen the argument?

    What do you guys think of my reasoning, and my analysis on "probably"? The more I think about it, the more it makes sense, and I think as I was typing this out, I've convinced myself that this is the correct reasoning for eliminating A.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-12/

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    yifeiwang926
    Friday, May 03 2019

    #help

    I spent 30 minutes trying to diagram this, and couldn't do it.

    Can someone diagram this for me?

    Can I say:

    Premises

    MAdvice -most-> Perspective(CEO)

    Managers -most-> CEO & Perspective(CEO)

    Conclusion

    For Managers(MAdvice -most-> LimitedUse)

    From the premises given, can we assume that

    For Managers(MAdvice -most-> PerspectiveRecipient)

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    yifeiwang926
    Sunday, Mar 03 2019

    @ said:

    If you haven’t already started stalking Reddit, don’t! 😂

    Too late. I never had a choice.

    @ said:

    You are much more zen about checking them than I am.😂

    Hmmm, ok. I think I'll take it easy on the status checker, then.

    @ said:

    Do they often send emails as well if there are changes? Otherwise, I think your patience is probably serving you well! :smiley:

    I think they generally will send an email for important matters. I consider status changes (Waiting for material, on hold, under review, waitlist, rejection and acceptance) to be important matters.

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    yifeiwang926
    Sunday, Jun 02 2019

    @ said:

    @ Ah, sorry that note was more meant for the LR and LG sections. Should have been more specific. Hope that clears things up!

    Ahhh, so you meant the existential and universal quantifiers?

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    Wednesday, Jan 02 2019

    yifeiwang926

    Question: What is Pro Bono?

    I believe I understand what the two words mean, and even understand what it means in the context of a practicing lawyer, but what does pro bono mean for law students? I see articles talking about supervising attorneys, pro bono trips, in-house projects, and outside organizations. Is pro bono just the law school way of saying volunteering? Do students have to find these themselves, are they like clubs and organization that anyone can join, or are they competitive?

    Would appreciate any insight from someone who knows a bit about this topic. Thank you, all.

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    yifeiwang926
    Sunday, Jun 02 2019

    Did anyone think fire pits were the places that the lamps were made? In my mind, lamps were made of clay, and needed to be fired in fire pits before use. =(

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    Saturday, Mar 02 2019

    yifeiwang926

    Status Checker Question

    Hey guys and girls, quick question:

    How often do you check the status of your applications? I do it about once a month so far. Is there any reason to check it more often?

    Thanks =)

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    yifeiwang926
    Saturday, Mar 02 2019

    @ said:

    So do the 50-100 questions in one sitting? Just curious.

    Maybe over the course of a weekend? Depends on your definition of "one sitting". Hahaha

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    yifeiwang926
    Saturday, Jun 01 2019

    Wow, congrats. I can't imagine how that feels. Represent 7sage students well out there! Best of fortunes for your coming years.

    Can you explain what you mean by "formal logic component" of RC?

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    Saturday, Jun 01 2019

    > @ said:

    > Hi, I'm interested in the study group but please can we make it online?

    > @ said:

    > Hey! I'm in interested too, online or in person

    This discussion is 3 years old, so unfortunately, I don't think any of them are still on 7sage.

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