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yifeiwang926
Sunday, Jan 19 2020

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Hi fellow Sagers,

I have been studying and studying for what feels like eternity, and following 7sage CC, an in person commercial prep course, and numerous books and guides, I finally took to some serious self studying. My PTs range from 153-159, with an average of 157. 160+ is the goal for me, but no matter what I do, I haven’t seemed to climb past this plateau. I acknowledge that the curve is less forgiving as you climb up, but I cannot seem to catch balance. My plan for my next (and final) LSAT take has been to use the Digital Problem Set to do timed sections because my PT score hadn’t moved following a dozen exams since my last write. My review process has been as follows:

My peak was after I went through the 7sage course twice, and trying to predict the explanations and course material on the second time through.

For LR: I paraphrase the stimulus if it’s an argument in my own words, write it out, rationale for each answer choice, during BR and Review. I try to come up with my own explanations before consulting 7Sage explanations. I completed all of the PTs 60-69 before opting for more timed sections from 36-59. I’m at PT 59 on RC and LG, in the 40s in LR at present.

Have you identified any patterns after you consult the 7sage explanations for answers you've missed? In my opinion, we can generalize mistakes into about 5 categories, such as too narrow, too general, lacking directionality, tricked by relevant words, misreading, etc. Recording these mistakes and reviewing my reasons for making these mistakes help me recognize and respond to questions with more awareness.

For RC: High/ Low Res summaries of passage, tracking my time distribution in a chart for how long I spend reading passage vs. the questions, comparing both to JY’s target times.

RC is 7Sage's one weakness. The memory method is strong, but having used Manhattan prep, the trainer, powerscore, kaplan, and 7sage, the one thing that other courses teach that really helped me was how to skim. It blew my mind how powerful this was. I was very dubious about this approach at first, because 7sage teaches us to read everything, but I tested skimming with pretty good results:

I usually had to reread that section anyway

Less than one question per passage would ask about what I skimmed/skipped

Skim when you see: moreover, for example, furthermore, in addition, in particular, etc (some times, you can even skim whatever follows 'because', because support structure is so much less meaningful in RC)

This may or may not work for you, but might be interesting to try.

LG is my strong suit— FPM of every game at 75% accuracy or above (usually above).

That's really not good enough, unfortunately. I'm sure you have a sense of this, but if you have a 95% accuracy for LG, you will likely exceed your score goal, right? Getting 95% is possible for everyone. Do every game you have trouble with 5 times over the course of of the next few weeks, and you will get there.

My individual section scores in LR range from anywhere from -4/-6 to -9/-12 and I don’t understand where that high upper end comes from as if I had never studied. In RC as well as -4/-5 and on some days -10/-11 as if I had never studied. It fluctuates in timed sections so much I haven’t taken full PTs, but will do individual questions followed by immediate review.

I don’t know what else to do. I don’t see how I can get the score I need to with such immense fluctuations and an inability to hit anywhere near my goal during an official write. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Suggestions, please?

Thank you!

I have seen other LSAT takers do this, and I also highly recommend it. I suggest doing the fool-proof method for every section. Record your mistakes, analyze and meditate on them, record your self-criticism, and redo the questions at a later date. Practice makes perfect, and practicing smart is more important than practicing hard.

PS: I was reading a comment you wrote about "Why Law" a while ago, and your comment really helped me. I hope I can help you in some way as well. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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yifeiwang926
Saturday, Jan 18 2020

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UofT is internationally equivalent to T10

Legal system in the USA and Canada are vastly different. No such thing as being internationally equivalent.

You're right. I'm oversimplifying. Since @ is asking about UofT, has applied, and got accepted, I made the assumption that he or she is considering working internationally, so I wanted to provide an opinion that had practical applications. There is no perfect, direct comparison between US and Canadians schools, but having worked in 6 countries, including both the US and Canada, I can with some idea say that UofT and T10 are pretty equivalent in terms of value for a graduate. What I am considering include network, reputation, education, and employment opportunities. If you want to work in a particular state, then it is strongly advised that you go to a top school close to or within that state. To reiterate though, my main point is that unless the original post has family, or is tied to Minnesota in some other way, UofT is my recommended choice.

Since @ is tied to Minnesota, then everything is up in the air. This is a bit late now, but I recommend calling UofT and asking them to refer some alumni or current students to you so that you can make a more informed decision. From reading your comments, it doesn't seem like you had any particular reason for applying to UofT, and only applied to cask a wider net. If that is the only reason, I would not recommend UofT, because UofT is a lot more rigorous, scholastically, than many schools and is very competitive (source are friends who were comparing their experiences at UofT, York University, Georgetown, and Fordham).

Hope this helps, cheers

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yifeiwang926
Wednesday, Dec 11 2019

Unless you're pretty tied to Minnesota, UofT is internationally equivalent to T10, and is the Harvard of Canada (best for big law, and huge network), so I would recommend UofT. Congrats on your acceptances!

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Friday, Jun 14 2019

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I would probably let it go. You could always let LSAC know that one of their moderators behaved inappropriately but I don't know that it's even worth your time. I personally would want to remove myself from that situation as much as possible.

Yeah, that's my thinking too. Thanks for the feedback.

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I agree with the majority here that bringing this up to LSAC this late is probably a bad idea for several of the reasons that have already been posted in this thread.

Hmmm, yeah, I also think there isn't much to it at this point. Thanks for the feedback.

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To the OP: I’m very sorry this happened to you. People touching you without permission is never ok. I would perhaps see if filing a report would make it so that law schools see it or not. Proctors are often hired by the test center, not LSAC, so contacting the center to file a complaint could also work. Just make sure the complaint doesn’t backfire. Once again I’m truly sorry that happened.

I considered filing a report for one reason: to warn LSAC of this incident, because it legitimately was distressing. Thinking back to the incident, combining my regret, self-punishment, and the shock of being physically disturbed, makes me feel nauseous, and have trouble breathing. I honestly still have trouble thinking of that incident as an assault though, because I was am so use to a different definition of assault. I have no intention of using this, if I file, as leverage in any way to benefit me. I just think no one needs to feel the added distress that I felt, when the scenario of knowing months of your time being Thanos'ed into nothingness is distressing enough already. LSAC should really make it clear that physical contact is unnecessary/unacceptable.

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I appreciate your comments and I agree with that it is important to support people when you can. As it relates to your first part about torts, that was my point. Trying to prove intent without injury one year later would be next to impossible.

Good point. It would be really pointless if it becomes an effort to prove intent. In regards to your other points, I cannot confirm. All I know is the source I linked (the youtube video), which I do not know the accuracy of, clearly states that intent to harm is not a requirement of assault. The law is not clear to me, which is part of the reason why I am made this post. I believe the law is beautifully flexible, and am not committed to either view.

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@ taking this way to seriously my dude. No one here is a lawyer yet. Nor does it really matter if OP can prove assault or not. OP is just asking for some simple advice, no need to fight everyone about the law. Simple "this is a good idea" or "this is a bad idea" would be enough. Also, understanding that there may not be a "right" answer and opinions can differ may help as well.

Thanks, as always, for the sage wisdom.

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Me personally? You touch me or my property and you’re going to be pulling back a stump. No score is worth someone putting their hands on me.

Yeah. Some times, the emotions get to me, but I want to be hyper rational about this, and I'll probably not do anything, or just write a short report telling them my side of the story, and stating that I do not want anything for my benefit, and just wanted them to have this piece of feedback.

Thanks everyone, for the feedback.

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Last year, I was kicked out of an LSAT administration because I did not drop my pencil in time. Getting kicked out was perfectly understandable. I violated a rule, and got what I deserved.

What I didn't understand at the time was that, in their report, the administrators left out a very important piece of information, namely how I ended up dropping my pencil. An administrator forcefully made contact with me, and essentially smacked the pencil out of my hand. To clarify, it was not that I took a long time to drop the pencil; instead, she stood next to me during most of the test, because I sat in the corner, so she just happened to be there was the time was called (there were people still writing afterwards). Although a tutor from 7sage said I should bring this up to LSAC, at the time, I thought it would be pointless or meaningless. Or maybe it was because my Asian parents have taught me that being hit for doing something bad in an academic environment is normal. But then, I watched the following youtube video, and learned that assault is assault, and that they should be held responsible for what they did, as I was.

Does anyone have any suggestions for what, if anything, I should do?

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yifeiwang926
Sunday, Jun 02 2019

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@ Ah, sorry that note was more meant for the LR and LG sections. Should have been more specific. Hope that clears things up!

Ahhh, so you meant the existential and universal quantifiers?

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yifeiwang926
Sunday, Jun 02 2019

Did anyone think fire pits were the places that the lamps were made? In my mind, lamps were made of clay, and needed to be fired in fire pits before use. =(

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Saturday, Jun 01 2019

Wow, congrats. I can't imagine how that feels. Represent 7sage students well out there! Best of fortunes for your coming years.

Can you explain what you mean by "formal logic component" of RC?

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yifeiwang926
Saturday, Jun 01 2019

> @ said:

> Hi, I'm interested in the study group but please can we make it online?

> @ said:

> Hey! I'm in interested too, online or in person

This discussion is 3 years old, so unfortunately, I don't think any of them are still on 7sage.

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, May 30 2019

I think the Hotel is a new location. Something happened to UBC and now the LSAT no longer is conducted at UBC. I hear burnaby and BCIT are great locations with very cool proctors. That's just anecdotal, though.

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Thursday, May 30 2019

If the dinosaurs didn't need to climb the trees, then why would they build their nests at the base of tree? They could have just built nests on the cliff side or anywhere else, if they can just lift off.

The thing about E that threw me off was that it states that "... lived at the time when...", which means that we cannot make any assumptions about whether or not the first flying dinosaurs had evolutionary pressure from these predators. To specify, we only know that there were these predators at the time when the dinosaurs already knew how to fly, and not before.

Hmmmm... but even though we cannot know for certain, I suppose the correlation between predators not climbing tree and the dinosaurs learning to fly does strengthen that they adapted to climbing and gliding. Nevermind.

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yifeiwang926
Sunday, May 26 2019

#help

JY's explanation makes a lot of sense. I also saw another flaw in that if X is correlated with ~Y, we cannot claim that X is not correlated with Y. Can someone else let me know if this makes sense? It is still correlated, right, but just inversely so?

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yifeiwang926
Friday, May 24 2019

#help

Is it not the case that by definition, if one person is less observant, then another person is less noticed? It might be because I have an antisocial disorder. I fail to see the difference in perspective that JY says between C and E.

Is there ever a case where one is less noticed, but another is not less observant? Is it because the less noticed can be caused by other things, such as blindness?

Additional point: I read "we" as meaning people or humanity in general in this case.

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, May 16 2019

#help

Can anyone explain to me why E is the answer for 11?

To me, the Native Soil movement never stood in "opposition" of anything. A reaction does not need to be inherently negative, right? In fact, all we know about it is that it came from the preoccupation with rural life of the Scar Art movement, and it was "co-opted for" some political purpose, perhaps that purpose was Revolutionary Realism. We simply don't know, right?

D stood out to me, because we know for a fact that the Native Soil movement was "romanticized", "idealized", and "political", and we know that it originally came out of the Scar Art movement. All of these points suggest that it indeed had points in common with the Revolutionary Realism, which is in opposition to its origin of the Scar Art movement.

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yifeiwang926
Friday, May 03 2019

#help

I spent 30 minutes trying to diagram this, and couldn't do it.

Can someone diagram this for me?

Can I say:

Premises

MAdvice -most-> Perspective(CEO)

Managers -most-> CEO & Perspective(CEO)

Conclusion

For Managers(MAdvice -most-> LimitedUse)

From the premises given, can we assume that

For Managers(MAdvice -most-> PerspectiveRecipient)

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

There's a lot of Canadian representation here. Woot~

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yifeiwang926
Wednesday, Mar 20 2019

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So do the 50-100 questions in one sitting? Just curious.

Maybe over the course of a weekend? Depends on your definition of "one sitting". Hahaha

Ha ha!

How did you do it? One day? or spread among multiple days? I am just trying to gauge your process.

Multiple days, BRing, and taking notes of ones I couldn't get to review them later. Basically fool proofing, but for LR.

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yifeiwang926
Sunday, Mar 03 2019

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If you haven’t already started stalking Reddit, don’t! 😂

Too late. I never had a choice.

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You are much more zen about checking them than I am.😂

Hmmm, ok. I think I'll take it easy on the status checker, then.

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Do they often send emails as well if there are changes? Otherwise, I think your patience is probably serving you well! :smiley:

I think they generally will send an email for important matters. I consider status changes (Waiting for material, on hold, under review, waitlist, rejection and acceptance) to be important matters.

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Saturday, Mar 02 2019

yifeiwang926

Status Checker Question

Hey guys and girls, quick question:

How often do you check the status of your applications? I do it about once a month so far. Is there any reason to check it more often?

Thanks =)

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yifeiwang926
Saturday, Mar 02 2019

@ said:

So do the 50-100 questions in one sitting? Just curious.

Maybe over the course of a weekend? Depends on your definition of "one sitting". Hahaha

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yifeiwang926
Wednesday, Feb 20 2019

Congrats Nikita (is that you?). Seeing this makes me smile. Hope you get into your dream schools, keep up the good work, and keep doing good things for those around you. Wish you the best on the next step in life.

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, Feb 14 2019

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Both would do a solid job of helping you get into big law.

Really interesting approach! Great insight

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, Feb 14 2019

Not sure what your question actually means, but yeah. BR everything. Including the drills in the core curriculum. But before you finish the CC, it's understandable if you can't solve some of the questions, and it's ok to not get everything. Just make a record of the questions you couldn't figure out and come back to it later?

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, Feb 14 2019

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"Resources" --> "LSAT Analytics" --> "Trends"

and then scroll down, yup

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yifeiwang926
Thursday, Feb 14 2019

Try searching the forums for past discussions about this topic? I think very few of the frequent users will have too much insight on this topic, since we're mostly still 0L or pre-application.

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