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I am very confused with a specific relationship between universal quantifiers and existential quantifiers. This confusion becomes annoying in Assumption Questions. Please help! So, basically this is it:

1. "A-->C + A -->B"

2. "A-->C + A -most->B"

3. "A-->C + A some B"

For each of three given premises, we can conclude the same "B some C" relationship. Though the first part is the same "A-->C", the second part is different. I thought that this difference is understandable, because "A-->B" implies "A-most->B" and "A some B". So, we should have the same conclusion for "B some C". But the problem often arises.

For example, PT 24, LR2, Section 3, Question 19. Sufficient Assumption.

"Every student who walks to school goes home for lunch. It follows that some students who have part-time jobs do not walk to school."

The conclusion of the argument follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

Premise: Walks to schools-->Goes home for lunch.

Conclusion: Part-time jobs (some) Do not walk to school.

Take the contrapositive of the premise, we have "Do not go home for Lunch--> Do not walk to School"

Now, it becomes clear that he Sufficient Assumption to bridge the gap could be:

1. "Do not go home for lunch (some) Part-time jobs". This is the correct answer choice (d).

(d). Some students who do not go home for lunch have part-time jobs.

2. Do not go home for lunch -most-> Part-time jobs.

3. Do not go home for lunch --> Part-time jobs. (conditional)

If we take the contrapositive of 3, we have "No part-time jobs-->Go home for lunch". The contrapostive is logically equivalent to the original. Now, "No part-time jobs-->Go home for lunch" implies

"No part-time jobs -most-> Go home for lunch." and also implies

"No part-time jobs (some) go home for lunch." (This is exactly what the wrong answer choice A says.)

(a). some students who do not have part-time jobs go home for lunch.

Please help me clear this confusion. Is there anything I misunderstood? I really appreciate your help.

I am very confused with a specific relationship between universal quantifiers and existential quantifiers. This confusion becomes annoying in Assumption Questions. Please help! So, basically this is it:

1. "A-->C + A -->B"

2. "A-->C + A -most->B"

3. "A-->C + A some B"

For each of three given premises, we can conclude the same "B some C" relationship. Though the first part is the same "A-->C", the second part is different. I thought that this difference is understandable, because "A-->B" implies "A-most->B" and "A some B". So, we should have the same conclusion for "B some C". But the problem often arises.

For example, PT 24, LR2, Section 3, Question 19. Sufficient Assumption.

"Every student who walks to school goes home for lunch. It follows that some students who have part-time jobs do not walk to school."

The conclusion of the argument follows logically if which one of the following is assumed?

Premise: Walks to schools-->Goes home for lunch.

Conclusion: Part-time jobs (some) Do not walk to school.

Take the contrapositive of the premise, we have "Do not go home for Lunch--> Do not walk to School"

Now, it becomes clear that he Sufficient Assumption to bridge the gap could be:

1. "Do not go home for lunch (some) Part-time jobs". This is the correct answer choice (d).

(d). Some students who do not go home for lunch have part-time jobs.

2. Do not go home for lunch -most-> Part-time jobs.

3. Do not go home for lunch --> Part-time jobs. (conditional)

If we take the contrapositive of 3, we have "No part-time jobs-->Go home for lunch". The contrapostive is logically equivalent to the original. Now, "No part-time jobs-->Go home for lunch" implies

"No part-time jobs -most-> Go home for lunch." and also implies

"No part-time jobs (some) go home for lunch." (This is exactly what the wrong answer choice A says.)

(a). some students who do not have part-time jobs go home for lunch.

Please help me clear this confusion. Is there anything I misunderstood? I really appreciate your help.

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Friday, Sep 26 2014

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Grouping or Chart?

Hi! When I do Grouping w/ Chart games, I feel like the standard grouping game board is a better fit for some games while chart is better for some others. Chart is safe for all these Chart games, but charting is slow and the chart is difficult to edit. Does anyone have a good way to judge when to use std. grouping and when to use chart for Grouping w/ Chart Games? Thank you! I really appreciate it.

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PT109.S3.Q3
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Wednesday, Apr 23 2014

I felt like these correct answer choices, and generally the ones for RRE, require further assumptions that wouldn't be acceptable on Assumption Questions. For example, I really can't bridge "standing still" in (C) with "less seen". I thought constantly moving may make the bird less seen too.

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PT104.S1.Q4
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Friday, Feb 21 2014

Does AC (A) attack on the premises directly?

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PT109.S4.Q26
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Saturday, Feb 15 2014

I eliminated answer (D) in the first round and left to (B) and (C). The reason I eliminated (D) so confidently is

1. There is a conditional indicator "IF", so it doesn't tell me anything real.

2. (D) is like a principle.

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Thursday, Aug 14 2014

I would say Do Both. Essentially, logic is logic. It's the same. But, you may learn from different approaches. Looking from different perspectives, getting confused, and finally realizing the similarity that lies in the crux of all approaches is an important step in my learning experience.

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Friday, Feb 14 2014

Isn't (D) providing us another possible hypothesis to the fact that recently introduced traps are less effective than original ones? As D suggests that the news introduced ones contain more concentration of pesticide and thus may be probably different from the original ones?

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PT113.S3.Q16
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Thursday, Feb 13 2014

The more I do these problems, the more I get confused because of different interpretations of answer choices that I could think. They are like different angles of views, yet I don't know if they are correct or the same in essence. For example, in this problem, I thought of this way. The author undermined purist's assumption that if something is unnatural, it should be prohibited. Then the author goes on to suggest non-addictive drugs shouldn't be prohibited because we should attend to problems related to deaths and injuries. The author assumes that non-addictive drugs does not cause deaths and injuries. So ans E attacked this assumption directly and other answer choices are so out of scope.

I also thought of the reasoning method that JY talked about. The author dismissed one possibility of banning non-addictive drugs in sports and, based on that, concluded that it should not be banned. This is sometime like a appeal to ignorance.

I could also think of other reasons for ans E. But sometimes different method of reasoning competes in your brain and just confuse you more.

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Wednesday, Sep 10 2014

For #4, I thought the word "innovation" is too strong to describe the Legal Services Plan that "has been in operation since late 1985." (line 4-5). Please help.

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PT109.S1.Q19
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Monday, Mar 10 2014

(E) is tricky. I chose E over D, cause I didn't really comprehend the stimulus. After several read, I found out that E got two problems.

1. it's too strong by saying ANY... that it almost becomes a sufficient assumption.

2. it's talking about the benign regime that FAILS to provide comprehensive general education. On the other hand, the stimulus is talking about the benign regime that "hasn't yet established comprehensive general education." Something hasn't been established doesn't imply failure to establish.

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Thursday, Mar 06 2014

Brilliant! Thank you so much. So the "some" is already the sufficient assumption here. And we can't infer --> back from "some".

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Saturday, Oct 04 2014

Hi, is there another gap that test writers can exploit or is it OK to assume that the study included "VARIOUS" brand and concluded "CHEAPER" brand is... When I was reading the stimulus, I asked that if the study of various brand actually included both cheaper and more expensives brands or are various brand cost the same. In latter case, the conclusion is Out of Scope.

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Thursday, Apr 03 2014

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Parallel Method of Reasoning Questions

I am ok on Parallel Method of Reasoning questions. But, I occasionally encounter those confusing PMRs. So, I am a little bit confused that are we paralleling "the form of the argument" or "the assumptions" of the argument in the stimulus. Some easy questions like "All A are B, not B, therefore not A" are obvious that the right answer present the exact contrapositive statement, while the wrong ones may involve inversion or conversion or existentials. But for less obvious PMRs, it confused me when the right answer's "physical structure" is so different from the originals. These confusing questions seem more like a principle questions in which we extract a generalized principle and apply to each answer choices.

So, could some explain to me what PMR really is. Thank you so much

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