I've been practicing LSAT since June 2014. I went through all 7sage materials besides Logical Game Bundles in the end of August. Then I spent 3 months going through all Logical Game Bundles. During that months, all I did was logic game and reading the Economist. After Logical Game Bundle is over, I started Prep Test right away. I think you all know the result. It was awful. After 7 prep tests, the highest score I get is 152. Then I realized something went wrong. I stopped prep test. In the winter, I bought old LSAT and kept doing untimed Logical Reasoning. Gladly, I could get roughly more than 20 right, sometimes even 22, or 23. Recently, I started doing timed section and Blind Review. I gave myself 45 minutes at first. Then, I gradually reduced my time to 40 minutes. However, I could only get 16 questions right without blind review. Even with blind review, I can only get roughly 19 or 20 questions right. I am a good student. I got 3.8 GPA in UNH. After I transfer to Fordham University in my junior year, I am having 3.9 GPA. I am contributing at least 3.5 hours per day for LSAT. But the result broke my heart again. I am sorry for typing so much. But any advice will be appreciated. Thank you. I am an international student from China. English is my second language.
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Being on 7Sage you'll hear that every LSAT question has 5 answer choices and 4 of them are absolutely 100%, indefensibly wrong. My only gains (small though they are) on LR/RC have been from embracing this mentality and affixing in my mind exactly why each choice is wrong or right.
Now your case might not have anything to do with that (and if it isn't know I mean no offense, I only thought it'd be helpful if it was), but what I keep hearing here is that LSAT mindset is all about mindset. When you're smart (I'd think a 3.8-3.9 would say that), but after dozens if not hundreds of hours you're testing in the low 150s I'd agree it's more likely a fundamental concepts thing. And if your BR still leaves 7 questions wrong per LR section despite the efforts you've made I think you have to look really close at those misses. A tutor might help hit key areas.
So yeah what other people are saying. Work on fundamentals. Hyper-analyze your mistakes for patterns. Don't be discouraged. People here make phenomenal gains. You're obviously smart but you're having some setbacks and working through a language barrier so it might take a while, but I'm sure you'll get the score you want if you continue to work as hard as you have.
I personally have and always will recommend Manhattan for logical reasoning. It's by far the best thing I've discovered because they provide a systematic approach to eliminating wrong answers and getting to the right one.
I started studying in July 2014 with Testmasters hoping to take it on September. I was studying everyday...from morning to night because I had no other obligations or responsibility. I had a bf but lsat became my new bf that I spent time with everyday and I loved it. Then my last semester started and since I had to maintain my 3.8 GPA (I'm sure you understand the struggle) I had to study part time for lsat. Now I'm done with school and don't have any other obligations but I hate the lsat now because I just want to take the dam test but my horrible 150s PT scores force me to postpone.
English is also my second language but don't let this go to your head. LSAT DOES NOT TEST YOUR VOCABULARY. It's not like the GRE. In fact, lsat writers will always have hints in the following sentences for you to understand a previous hard word they used. I always come across words that I'm thinking "I swear on my life this isn't a real word" but instead of worring about that, I just go with the flow and try to get a hint of what that weird word meant by reading the other sentences for clues. So don't worry about English being your second language. That is not affecting it, that's just something in your head.
I wouldn't suggest continuing to take practice tests. I would suggest restarting your prep as I am doing and after a few months you can get back to taking practice tests...at that time, timing should be your only challenge not getting answers wrong. I know, it's hard having to face the reality that you may need to restart but believe me, looking at things with fresh eye you will notice your pattern of mistakes more. I sometimes look at the previous questions I have completed back in July 2014 and I think "wow I was so naive to pick this answer"
Like @royaimani, I can relate as well. It sounds like we've invested similar time and effort, to see very similar results. I've worked so hard, especially over the last two months. I study at least 3.5 hrs/day, with only 1 day of "rest" per week (on my off day I may spend an hr or two reading lsat blogs, finding new resources, miscellaneous LSAT related things). Over the past 60 days, I've ONLY been working on logic games, my weakness. And I bet if I were to take a practice test tomorrow, I wouldn't see an improvement. But you know what? That's OK. I trust in myself, the work I'm putting in, the great resources I'm using like 7sage, and in the process of always seeking the best and most effective ways of studying. I know I wouldn't see improvement on a test immediately because it still takes me 15-30 mins to solve some logic games but guess what: that's so much better than where I started, which was not even being able to FINISH a lot of games. You can't motivate yourself entirely on fear and worry--celebrate your victories, even the small ones!! Best of luck,
Andrew
Honestly, the only advice I can really give you is:
1. Improve your understanding of logic, conditional reasoning, negation, all that good stuff. This will help you with MSS/MBT questions on the LR section.
2. For all other LR questions, find the conclusion and find the support, I like to think of it in a more "lawyerly" way find the conclusion and find the evidence that's been given and see what the question stem is asking i.e. strengthen, weaken, find necessary or sufficient assumption, justify etc...
3. Since it sounds like you've got the games down, make sure you review the latest test to see the pattern of the games. The games have gotten significantly more difficult, so make sure you get every single question right on the games.
4. There is not much I can tell you for Reading Comp other than just do your best. Honestly, if you narrow your losses on the LR and do really well in LG, you will most likely crack the 160.
I tend to second guess myself a lot during prep test. But I do tend to think I am right all the time. Perhaps that's another issue I need to work on. Thank you for your advice!
Thank you. I will definitely take your word upon on it. I will go back to fundamentals and see what my problem is. I am glad that I am not alone. I hope you don't mind it lol.
I ordered Manhattan LR already. I guess I need to seriously go back to fundamentals and solve my mistakes. Thank you for your advice. I really appreciate it!!
I've only been to the U.S for 3 years and I never spoke English until I came to the U.S. English is definitely a hard nut to crack to me. But I will just deal with it. Thank you for your advice. Do you know where to get Jon's contact? Thank you
Thank you so much!!
Thank you for your advice. I did Cambridge LR and RC problem sets. I also found some logic books to read as supplement. I guess I will have to try everything I can.
I would recommend that you blind review thoroughly and take as much time as you need. You do not need to time yourself on blind review. Then, what I do after blind reviewing is to check my answers on the Manhattan forums (https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/forums/). It's a great way to get explanations from others who have struggled on questions and see different points of reasoning. I know that I learn best from seeing questions explained in writing so this has really helped me a lot. Hope these tips help!
Thank you so much!! I will definitely do it.
Thank you Emily. I will definitely keep up my diligence.