161 and 3.66 GPA for T14?

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• kjsmith914 Alum Member

  November 2018 226 karma

  I'm kind of in the same boat, considering withdrawing on Saturday because I haven't hit my goal score yet. I feel like your BR score is your true potential, and honestly, unless you're a URM your chances are slim for getting into a T-14 with those stats. I would wait, study more, get a better score, and apply at the beginning of next cycle.
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  Balkar Singh Member

  November 2018 17 karma

  Wait study more,
  With those stats you don't stand a chance at T14,
  and taking a test just to see where you land isnt going to help.
  169-170 with your GPA and you might even land a scholarship.
  I know a guy who did for $90,000 with Lsat -169. GPA - 3.66 at Michigan.
  Good luck.
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  studyingandrestudying Core Member

  November 2018 5254 karma

  Stay in the game and keep working. Also, maybe expand your school list.
• BinghamtonDave Alum Member ⭐ 🍌🍌

  November 2018 edited November 2018 8700 karma

  mylsn and 7Sage predictor are your best bets on chances. I personally would say to maximize chances try to raise your lsat at the very least 7 points. A 168/3.66 makes you a strong candidate for t-14/t-20.
  Your issue as I understand it is closing the gap between br and score. A full section breakdown of errors is a great place to start. Your going to want to target your studying to fix errors in your approach. There is a ton to say about this topic, starting with the fact that it takes time to properly execute.
  I would register for January.

  Edit: additional advice
• Princess Alum Member

  November 2018 821 karma

  Thank you every one for your help! @BinghamtonDave I noticed that you are a tutor and have just messaged you!
• danjamesdanjames Free Trial Member

  November 2018 46 karma

  Please go ahead and take it Saturday. If you have gotten a 170 in practice you can possibly get one on test day. Law schools take your highest score. If, however, you don't hit close to this when scores are released then you are indeed looking at your best decision being to wait another cycle.
• Princess Alum Member

  November 2018 821 karma

  I got the 170 during BR, not during the PT itself. That's why I'm worried because I typically get 159-162 on normal PT, but will get 168-170 during BR.

  @danjamesdanjames said:
  Please go ahead and take it Saturday. If you have gotten a 170 in practice you can possibly get one on test day. Law schools take your highest score. If, however, you don't hit close to this when scores are released then you are indeed looking at your best decision being to wait another cycle.
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  _oshun1_ Alum Member

  November 2018 edited November 2018 3652 karma

  Honestly if someone was considering applying to t14 with a 161 then they aren’t dead set on going to a t14. If you were dead set on it then you would know your PT average needs to be much higher and you shouldn’t just take the lsat on a whim.
• Leah M B Alum Member ⭐

  November 2018 8392 karma

  Agreed with the others. You need to wait to take the LSAT until you are consistently scoring on PTs at least in the upper 160s. With a 168+ you'll have a shot at T14. Low 160s won't get you there (unless you are a URM... then it might be a stretch but slightly possible). If you can crack 170, you should solidly have at least 1 T14 acceptance.

  As sort of an aside, your BR score is only your theoretical maximum. Most people who score in the upper 160s to low 170s have a BR score in the upper 170s. You can always perform better untimed than timed. As you improve, you don't necessarily catch up to your BR score - your actual score and BR score will both improve. So in order to be scoring in the upper 160s, your BR score should be well into the 170s.
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  danjamesdanjames Free Trial Member

  November 2018 46 karma

  @gurikaur said:
  I got the 170 during BR, not during the PT itself. That's why I'm worried because I typically get 159-162 on normal PT, but will get 168-170 during BR.

  @danjamesdanjames said:
  Please go ahead and take it Saturday. If you have gotten a 170 in practice you can possibly get one on test day. Law schools take your highest score. If, however, you don't hit close to this when scores are released then you are indeed looking at your best decision being to wait another cycle.

  Ah, OK I retract my recommendation. Like others are saying you'll need about a 168+ to get into a T14. Put in your numbers to check out the odds on law school numbers and the LSAC as well.

  I wouldn't waste too much time statsturbating though. Know what scores you need to achieve your goals then put your time into LSAT prep.
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  Bamboosprout Alum Member

  November 2018 1694 karma

  That's a yikes from me, friend. Patience is a virtue, and study until you get a 168+. Then, perhaps it may be a yeet.
  Excuse my attempt to stay young and relevant.