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⚖ Official October 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread ⚖

edited November 2019 in October 2019 LSAT 276 karma

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official October 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.

Please keep all discussions of the October 2019 LSAT here!

Rules:
You can identify experimental sections. 🙆‍♀️
You can say things such as the following:

  • I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?
  • I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?
  • I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?”

You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅‍♂️
You CANNOT say things such as the following:

  • Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right? (Don't mention the game type)
  • The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)? (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)
  • What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)? (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)
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  • RealLaw612RealLaw612 Legacy Member
    1094 karma

    Best of luck to all test-takers today! Wish I were there. May the logic be easy and the curve be generous.

  • 68 karma

    I had three LR sections. Two of them had 26 questions and one of them had 25. Please tell me the 25 question one counted?

  • mstein78910mstein78910 Alum Member
    38 karma

    Did anyone find this test very difficult?

  • 68 karma

    The real RC: was about jazz, volcanoes, cycling/camping, and intellectual property

    The real LG: contained a game about tour guides for two South American countries and a game about shelving

  • Anonymouse-1Anonymouse-1 Alum Member
    189 karma

    How would you all rate the difficulty of this test compared to the aggregate of practice tests you've taken?

  • ConquerLSATboiConquerLSATboi Alum Member
    81 karma

    @shapesandspace said:
    The real RC: was about jazz, volcanoes, cycling/camping, and intellectual property

    The real LG: contained a game about tour guides for two South American countries and a game about shelving

    @shapesandspace I don't remember cycling. I remember Ice Core drilling instead.

  • ConquerLSATboiConquerLSATboi Alum Member
    81 karma

    @shapesandspace said:
    I had three LR sections. Two of them had 26 questions and one of them had 25. Please tell me the 25 question one counted?

    No I think the 25 LR is experimental

  • 68 karma

    @ConquerLSATboi said:

    @shapesandspace said:
    I had three LR sections. Two of them had 26 questions and one of them had 25. Please tell me the 25 question one counted?

    No I think the 25 LR is experimental

    Oh man. I was feeling pretty confident, but now I'm just extremely anxious

  • alexanderfuscaalexanderfusca Alum Member
    21 karma

    Both real LR had 26 questions. One of the had a question involving financial fraud by employees at a company. The other had a question about squids, a question about planets (something about Jupiter)

    Real RC was jazz, cycling, volcanoes, intellectual property.

    Games was employees giving tours of Venezuela and Uruguay over Jan, Feb, March.

  • lastLSATslastLSATs Alum Member
    64 karma

    I think the two LR sections are about average, LG is rather easier, except the third one was a bit weird though the last one was easy. For some reason I didn’t do as well as I’d hope in RC (probably because I was mentally exhausted in section 5)...

  • ConquerLSATboiConquerLSATboi Alum Member
    81 karma

    @alexanderfusca said:
    Both real LR had 26 questions. One of the had a question involving financial fraud by employees at a company. The other had a question about squids, a question about planets (something about Jupiter)

    Real RC was jazz, cycling, volcanoes, intellectual property.

    Games was employees giving tours of Venezuela and Uruguay over Jan, Feb, March.

    Didn't the real RC have ice glaciers / ice drilling?

  • 68 karma

    I don't know if today's exam is going to be used next week for other takers, I don't want a big discussion, but I get a sense that some people have differing opinions about the main point of some passages

  • lsatslayer-1lsatslayer-1 Alum Member
    113 karma

    I had an RC repeated so I know which ones are real LG. LG yes had Venezuela and Uruguay as well as shelves being stacked.

  • b.schattib.schatti Alum Member
    10 karma

    WOOF

  • alexanderfuscaalexanderfusca Alum Member
    21 karma

    @ConquerLSATboi said:

    @alexanderfusca said:
    Both real LR had 26 questions. One of the had a question involving financial fraud by employees at a company. The other had a question about squids, a question about planets (something about Jupiter)

    Real RC was jazz, cycling, volcanoes, intellectual property.

    Games was employees giving tours of Venezuela and Uruguay over Jan, Feb, March.

    Didn't the real RC have ice glaciers / ice drilling?

    My bad you’re right. I don’t know why I said volcanoes. Something about sulphuric acid

  • jmd337jmd337 Alum Member
    30 karma

    I honestly didn't feel like anything was particularly difficult except maybe the LR was a little bit more challenging, I noticed because I didnt have any remaining time in either LR sections and most of the time I have atleast 30 seconds after answering. first LR was harder than second in my opinion

  • leesieunnileesieunni Alum Member
    27 karma

    I don't know if its just me but the last passage of RC on intellectual property was so hard for me to get the details - I feel like I just solved the questions based on vague impressions I had on each passages..

  • itsalex559itsalex559 Alum Member
    edited October 2019 19 karma

    I didnt count questions in my LR so im not sure which was experimental!
    Im worried because I had two pretty difficult ones, and one that I felt I did extremely well on. Can someone please let me know if they also had LR experimental, and if they know if it was the easier one or not? I want to figure out if my easier LR is going to at least be counted.

  • mikesun232mikesun232 Alum Member
    25 karma

    did anyone else find reading super difficult

  • dancobourndancobourn Member
    13 karma

    The last RC was extra abstract and esoteric IMO. Just attempted to take the online writing section and the software crashed, meaning I have to petition for LSAC to reset the launch link for me and discard my first attempt. Great, lol.

  • edited October 2019 5 karma

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  • Lolo1996Lolo1996 Legacy Member
    498 karma

    LR: 26
    - HARD HARD HARD

    LG: 23
    - weird — id like to find that shelving game tho. Sounds like an oldie.

    LR: 26
    - meh

    LR: 25
    - okay - probably my best section

    RC: 27 I think?
    - the one about the bikes left me CONFUSED. I barely had time for that passage, I did the comparative before. So many view points, I feel it would have been easier with more time. The RC was VERY long

    All in all, I can say I learned about how butterfly mouths formed.

  • zacharytsmith26zacharytsmith26 Alum Member
    844 karma

    They really wanted to test us on what do these two people disagree about didn't they? Is it confirmed that the LR 25 was experimental? That had to be the easiest section.

  • 5 karma

    Can someone please tell me if the LR section with the question about the doctor taking away medication of a patient (something like that) was experimental or not? it was at the very beginning of the section, within the first 5 questions.

  • law.jennifermlaw.jenniferm Member
    9 karma

    @lsat_studying12 said:
    Can someone please tell me if the LR section with the question about the doctor taking away medication of a patient (something like that) was experimental or not? it was at the very beginning of the section, within the first 5 questions.

    This was real

  • kristina.chemarevakristina.chemareva Alum Member
    edited October 2019 29 karma

    I wish someone prepared me for the kind of stylus they provided. It worked somewhat fine (albeit not every time) for picking the right answer choice (basically tapping on the screen), but it failed me every time I tried to highlight or scroll down. I wasted too much time trying to get it to work. At the end of the test, we were told to keep it as a souvenir :wink: In addition, they only let us raise the tablets like two inches off the desk surface so I couldn't see anything because of the glare. Little that I knew, you can't change your seat after you get assigned to a specific seat number. These "minor" difficulties threw me completely off balance, and I think I am bound for the January LSAT now. Otherwise, 7sage digital tester is pretty much identical to the one LSAC has. So, I would recommend using it to practice instead of printing prep tests. There is absolutely no need to buy a watch. Digital LSAT has a timer.

  • Trust the ProcessTrust the Process Alum Member
    304 karma

    @zacharytsmith26 said:
    They really wanted to test us on what do these two people disagree about didn't they? Is it confirmed that the LR 25 was experimental? That had to be the easiest section.

    Yes! There were sooo many disagree questions.

  • 5 karma

    Was the section with agree questions real?

  • lawschool2020-2lawschool2020-2 Legacy Member
    118 karma

    Overall, a pretty straightforward test. Thankfully, after the nightmare of September...
    LR1: Ok
    LG: Weird but ill take it
    LR2: Decent
    LR3: Easy (experimental)
    RC: Typical, on the harder end but I don't know bc RC is always hard for me

  • ChelseyEChelseyE Legacy Member
    49 karma

    I felt like the Logic Games should be easy but for some reason I couldn’t figure out the games setup. Was anyone else thrown by the LG section?

  • rope14urope14u Member
    edited October 2019 29 karma

    The games threw me for a terrible loop. Shouldn’t have been that hard but very unfamiliar. I felt like I was crushing the first 2 lr’s. I’m hoping because lg is quite possibly 50% and so was rc.

  • ChelseyEChelseyE Legacy Member
    49 karma

    @rope14u said:
    The games threw me for a terrible loop. Shouldn’t have been that hard but very unfamiliar.

    This was exactly how I felt! Very unfamiliar compared to all the games I’ve practiced and mastered.

  • mstein78910mstein78910 Alum Member
    38 karma

    I still don’t understand the Jazz passage lol - any comments on that passage? What did you think

  • PianobarPianobar Member
    24 karma

    @ChelseyE LG sec was crazy. After I answered 3rd question I realized I was doing it wrong since question #1.

  • a. valdeza. valdez Alum Member
    112 karma

    If an LR section felt easier than others, is it usually experimental? How can you tell?

  • Prudenter DiscerePrudenter Discere Alum Member
    edited October 2019 234 karma

    LG was easy but weird. I skipped the first game after first read, because it was not a usual game, did the second game, finished it well. Read the third game, it was unusual, so i skipped it, Did the fourth game, it was easy. Reread the first LG, and it was easy, and I understood it. Then did the 3rd game, it was easy, but did not finish the last 2 questions in time. I am feeling like a -3 on this LG. Not happy. RC felt really hard, and RC tends to be my strongest section. It felt really hard. I had to trust my low resolution, because my high resolution was not good. LR, I was hoping the one with 25 was not experimental. But oh well. the first LR with 26 was hard.

  • 2ndTimestheCharm2ndTimestheCharm Alum Member
    1805 karma

    @ConquerLSATboi said:

    @shapesandspace said:
    The real RC: was about jazz, volcanoes, cycling/camping, and intellectual property

    The real LG: contained a game about tour guides for two South American countries and a game about shelving

    @shapesandspace I don't remember cycling. I remember Ice Core drilling instead.

    Cycling was somehow the clearest passage ever to me. And core drilling and volcanoes were the same one.

  • 2ndTimestheCharm2ndTimestheCharm Alum Member
    1805 karma

    @ChelseyE said:
    I felt like the Logic Games should be easy but for some reason I couldn’t figure out the games setup. Was anyone else thrown by the LG section?

    Totally. I was nervous and struggling to find a foothold since all the Games seemed kinda weird. So I actually did Game 4 first. It was the first one that clicked. And I had time to go back to the other 3, and even had time to redo one of them after messing up a rule. So that's progress but, yeah, none of them were standard or easy to set up imo.

  • 2ndTimestheCharm2ndTimestheCharm Alum Member
    1805 karma

    @zacharytsmith26 said:
    They really wanted to test us on what do these two people disagree about didn't they? Is it confirmed that the LR 25 was experimental? That had to be the easiest section.

    I have never seen so many. There were like 13 friggin' disagrees.

  • Jay TeeJay Tee Alum Member
    298 karma

    Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?

  • babridger17babridger17 Legacy Member
    52 karma

    Logic games were tough for me. To be honest, LG isn't my best section, but I thought I had a better grip on it than that. I couldn't even figure out to draw most of my boards. Just didn't recognize the games. Definitely need to investigate this before Nov. I know some, if not most, didn't seem to have much trouble. Yikes!

  • babridger17babridger17 Legacy Member
    edited October 2019 52 karma

    @"Jay Tee" said:
    Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?

    lol that thing was a JOKE. The stylus had no integrity so it makes it a royal pain to use. I just used my finger.

  • lsatguru516lsatguru516 Legacy Member
    edited October 2019 9 karma

    hi

  • zxcv1111zxcv1111 Legacy Member
    17 karma

    I think LG is weird but all the games are not that difficult to solve. I did not have a clear game board to start with. Q3 took me the longest time to finish. RC was a disaster. I just couldn’t understand the last reading.

  • MJGspiceMJGspice Alum Member
    147 karma

    I had 2 LR sections with 26 each, the test had 102, my experimental was RC

  • Lolo1996Lolo1996 Legacy Member
    498 karma

    @w.jenniferm
    @lsat_studying12 said:

    Can someone please tell me if the LR section with the question about the doctor taking away medication of a patient (something like that) was experimental or not?

    This was real

    Omg guys. Stoohhpp. I have no memory of this question lmao. Now I’m definitely screwed hahahaha

  • ChelseyEChelseyE Legacy Member
    49 karma

    @"Jay Tee" said:
    Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?

    A girl in line told me she had difficulty with the stylus last time she took the lSAT and used her finger instead for highlighting. So I started out in RC trying to use my finger to highlight and it kept highlighting the line below what I wanted. I switched over to the stylus and found that much more precise to highlight, although it would sometimes still highlight more than what I actually wanted. At one point while answering a question the whole paragraph become highlighted. As a work around, I tried to make sure I set it to "erase" while answering questions.

    Occasionally the tablet would skip ahead a couple questions and then I would notice the previous question had not been answered yet even though I never saw it.

    Other than those small annoyances, I really enjoyed the digital test format. I found it much easier to focus on each question and preferred it to switching back and forth from scantron to test book. I also liked the visibility of the questions I had flagged so I could quickly go back and review them if/when I had time as opposed to flipping frantically through a test book.

  • Vino VeritasVino Veritas Alum Member
    33 karma

    Wait so if we had 5 sections: LR, LG, LR, LR, RC. Then the fourth LR was experimental? That sucks because that was the one that felt the best ):

  • itskidactiveitskidactive Alum Member
    93 karma

    @"Jay Tee" said:
    Did anyone experience any technical issues with the tablet & stylus?

    No technical issues with the tablet & stylus itself but we had administrative issues with assigning tablets/seats. We started our test about 45 min AFTER the scheduled time 😡

  • kaikdamekaikdame Monthly Member
    77 karma

    @"kristina.chemareva" said:
    I wish someone prepared me for the kind of stylus they provided. It worked somewhat fine (albeit not every time) for picking the right answer choice (basically tapping on the screen), but it failed me every time I tried to highlight or scroll down. I wasted too much time trying to get it to work. At the end of the test, we were told to keep it as a souvenir :wink: In addition, they only let us raise the tablets like two inches off the desk surface so I couldn't see anything because of the glare. Little that I knew, you can't change your seat after you get assigned to a specific seat number. These "minor" difficulties threw me completely off balance, and I think I am bound for the January LSAT now. Otherwise, 7sage digital tester is pretty much identical to the one LSAC has. So, I would recommend using it to practice instead of printing prep tests. There is absolutely no need to buy a watch. Digital LSAT has a timer.

    I called LSAC to ask if I could bring my own stylus (had this issue in July, it's minor but one less thing to worry about). They said yes. I called again and asked if a supervisor could verify, supervisor said yes. Of course I showed up today and they made me throw it away before entering the room. It was just a stylus, no pen attached or anything...so apparently we're stuck with the LSAC ones.

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