Grouping or Chart stimulus Cue

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  120_or_bust Core Member

  March 2021 edited March 2021 124 karma

  I just did a PT in the 70s (the flower bouquet one) which JY suggested that one of the main ways to figure out if a Chart is better is whether the game pieces can repeat.

  Can repeat = Use chart
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  Jahn.Snow Member

  March 2021 316 karma

  ^ I second that! Also, when doing problem sets you can see that the games that use a chart are noted as "GroupRep" for group repeat. Grouping basic is the tag for a grouping game with the chart technique. If you want to practice a few games with each tag, that might give you a deeper understanding on how to differentiate quickly- it's what helped me.
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  kkole444 Alum Member ⭐

  March 2021 1687 karma

  Hello @7sajuicez
  the comments above are correct. I'd like to add that between grouping and grouping repeating they could be identical except for the part about the pieces themselves. So both games normally start out the same: here are 3 categories(groups) and here are the game pieces that need to be sorted into the groups, however grouping repeating games there will be a subtle like, "each piece can be used in each group and each piece is use at least once". This would indicate that the game pieces are not one and done, but rather they can be used multiple times across every group.
• Maxsimil Member

  March 2021 64 karma

  Thank you all 😀
• Jordan Johnson Member ⭐

  March 2021 686 karma

  @7sajuicez Keep in mind that using a chart vs setting up something as a grouping game is dependent on which is easier for you -- there's no real 'right or wrong' way to set up a game.

  For instance, when I took PT 49, Game 2 recently, I set it up as a 'chart' and it worked just fine. Then I saw that in JY's explanation, he set it up a a grouping game. I tried redoing it that way, but for that particular problem, the 'chart' was more intuitive for me.