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• GSU Hopeful Core ⭐

  November 2015 1644 karma

  Skype request sent. I'll be in as much as I can be (hopefully all of them). Thank you sir.
• Student... Member

  November 2015 298 karma

  Very interested. But I just started the curriculum.
• Labelle80 Alum Member

  November 2015 41 karma

  Hello. Thanks for setting up the June 2016 Blind Review group. I do have some feedback/suggestions below:
  
  1. Do blind review on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays to avoid doing blind reviews on Fridays.
  
  2. Consider changing blind review time on Tuesdays and Thursdays (or which ever weeknight we chose) from 5pm to 6:30pm or 7pm to give the people who work a regular day job hours (9am-5pm or 10am-6pm) some time to get home first if needed. For example, a parent may need time after work to go pick up his/her kid right after work so they will never be able to join the weeknight blind review group because of the time. This will also increase the number of people who will be able to join blind review group.
  
  3. Is it possible to adjust the blind review schedule to include BRing prep test 77 as well?
  
  4. I am very interested in having topic specific sessions on flaws, sufficient and necessary assumptions, Most/some/valid and invalid arguments, and active reading.
  
  Let me know what you think.
  
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  November 2015 7468 karma

  @"wislene charles" said:
  Consider changing blind review time on Tuesdays and Thursdays (or which ever weeknight we chose) from 5pm to 6:30pm or 7pm
  

  Thanks for the feedback. The only issue with that is the times are PST, so 5pm PST is really 8pm EST. If we moved it to 6:30 PST, then east coasters wouldn’t start until 9:30 EST, too late. If we moved it to 6:30 EST, then it would be 3:30 PST, too early.

  @"wislene charles" said:
  Is it possible to adjust the blind review schedule to include BRing prep test 77 as well?
  

  I believe it is already scheduled in, although I am debating doing it at an earlier time in the schedule than it is currently listed.

  @"wislene charles" said:
  1. Do blind review on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays to avoid doing blind reviews on Fridays.
  

  Noted.
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  November 2015 7468 karma

  @Galapagos.1001 said:
  Very interested. But I just started the curriculum.
  

  Of course, finish the curriculum first. But you could try to do the fundamentals workshops. Note that we don’t start PT 36 until Jan 9. You’ve got some time to get through the curriculum.
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  poohbear Alum Member

  November 2015 edited November 2015 496 karma

  Dave! You are so on top of this! THANK YOU!!!! I'll probably be hopping onto this too... as you might have been able to tell, I'm jumping off of the Dec train (still trying to figure out what my game plan is from here on out..) But definitely looking forward to more BR calls with you and the gang!
  
  I think the Friday BR schedule for me-- in general it's always an issue of trying to complete the the PT, and have enough time to BR the test on my own, do the group BR and then get in any kind of review or refreshing for topics I'm struggling with (I know this portion will decrease with more practice)-- and trying to do that for most of the scheduled PTs in that week! Granted, my schedule is a bit more flexible so I'll just fix my schedule based on what the majority of people want to do.
  
  On a side note: I wish 7Sage discussion area has some kind of iCal/Google Calendar function where we can just easily post all the BR sessions and whoever is subscribed to that calendar (that BR group) would get notifications or reminders on the site as to when the BR is-- this would take a lot off the BR leader's hands! As always, thanks Dave!
• Student... Member

  November 2015 298 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor Thanks! Just sent Skype request. Will aim for Jan 9!! Where can I find the fundamentals workshops?
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  November 2015 7468 karma

  @Galapagos.1001 said:
  Where can I find the fundamentals workshops?
  

  Haven’t posted specifics yet. Hopefully, we’ll have more info by next week.
• Student... Member

  November 2015 298 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor said:
  Haven’t posted specifics yet. Hopefully, we’ll have more info by next week.
  

  Thank you very much!
  
• twssmith Alum ⭐

  November 2015 5120 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor You are the BEST!!
  I was so sad to leave the BR calls when I decided to postpone. Excited to get started again with everyone:) The interactive workshops would be an amazing addition.
  Thank you for all of your work to help us rock in June!
• Seriousbird Alum Member

  November 2015 1278 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor this is PERFECT! I am so on board with this study schedule for preptests. I will join for the 72+ in the early and late batch, and I will join you all to do the BR sessions from preptests 39 onwards!
  
  Also, one inquiry I have is I am using the Cambridge LR bundles from preptests 1-38 and am using them during my course of the curriculum and while I am doing preptests, I will be drilling them. I don't know if everyone will be using Ultimate+ (I only have Ultimate and thus don't have PDF versions of the problem sets) or some people might be doing the Cambridge LR bundles to drill with, but if the latter is true, I would absolutely LOVE to review the problem sets with other people!!!
  
  Also, question types I would absolutely LOVE to have lessons from 7Sage tutors or sessions with would be: Assumption questions, point of issue, strengthen/weaken, and flaw. But for me personally the one question type I would love, love, LOVE to see are the necessary assumption types. I have not familiarized myself with the necessary assumption methodologies that 7Sage/Trainer teaches, I usually use the PS method and I get very confused sometimes with the correct answer choices. I will definitely be done with the curriculum by end of January, so I am very excited for these BR sessions.
• johnz333 Member

  December 2015 101 karma

  Thank you for setting up this schedule. I'm interested in joining the June BR group. I'm only working part time while I study, so my schedule is pretty flexible. I started studying in August and have done 8 PTs, but since my scores are still in the 150s, I'm considering going through the course again and maybe rereading the Trainer-- so not sure if I'll make the first couple weeks of BR, but I'll be in touch.
  
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  poohbear Alum Member

  December 2015 edited December 2015 496 karma

  Hey Dave! I threw this all on a Google sheet in case people wanted a different way of looking at the schedule:
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CbppExCcbrg94HfA5ufjftgjH_yF4ewpHRcAvpbRpLY/edit?usp=sharing
  I hope I didn't miss anything!! Please let me know if I did!
  
  I've made it view only-- feel free to DM your email address so I can give you editing privileges @DumbHollywoodActor
• bruingirl1205 Alum Member

  December 2015 444 karma

  This is super helpful! Thanks @poohbear
• twssmith Alum ⭐

  December 2015 5120 karma

  Thanks @poohbear!!!
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  Nice work, Winnie!!!
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  DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  Based on the chatter I’ve been getting, I’m going to revise this schedule from Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays to Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Fridays have been hit-or-miss at best. I was thinking Tuesdays and Thursdays will have a very consistent PT schedule, but LSATurday will be a wildcard: we could do a Workshop or a PT in the 70s, etc.... I won’t institute this change in the schedule until January.
  
  If this is something you really don’t want us to do, now is the time to make that opinion known.
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  updated
• lenelson2 Member

  December 2015 523 karma

  YES!! I'm in. Will send a friend request shortly. Thank you for organizing 7sage and @DumbHollywoodActor
• lsatmantaray Free Trial Member

  December 2015 46 karma

  Hi, please let me join too. As long as the currently scheduled time would stay the same and I would be grateful to be able to join and not have to compromise my sleep schedule. I really hope that 5AM EST to 1PM EST would continue to be avoided for this BR group because that's 10PM to 6AM in Japan… Just sent a Skype friend request
• Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor, I think Tues - Thurs - Sat is much better. Also, what is (or should be) the plan for those who also decide to test in Oct / Dec? The schedule for June accounts for every PT. I suppose one can skip several PTs, or just take the even numbered ones? I ask because my first write will most likely be in June, and assuming I have to write again in Oct/Dec, I want to make sure I have material to work with. Send me your thoughts. Thanks!
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  @Mitzyyyy said:
  Also, what is (or should be) the plan for those who also decide to test in Oct / Dec?
  

  I have the expectation that I will have to take the test again in October and maybe December. I am planning to keep 3 pristine PTs for the October test, just in case. For December, unfortunately, it will have to be all re-takes.
  
  The schedule accounts for every PT so you can decide which PT you’d like to skip. I’ve also put a lot of TBAs in there if people have special tests they’d like to re-take or if they’d like to specifically request a fundamentals workshop. Plus, I think it’s critical to re-take at least 3-4 PTs in the 70’s.
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  jimenezja.jj Alum Member

  December 2015 187 karma

  Good morning,
  When will the new schedule be updated. I see you have changed the days to Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. Thank you for all your help @DumbHollywoodActor
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  Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor, what other types of prep would you do aside from the 3-4 PTs? Drilling and retakes?
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  @Mitzyyyy said:
  what other types of prep would you do aside from the 3-4 PTs? Drilling and retakes?
  

  Retakes, lots and lots of retakes (paying no attention to the score). Also, I’d do lots and lots of BR groups. My goal would be to squeeze every bit of learning I can from each question. But no doubt it will be scary only doing 1 new PT per month. I suppose you could save more. My problem is I’ve already taken 25 PTs from the new era. (If I knew then what I know now--that this was going to take well over a year--I would have started at PT 1 and just gone in order all the way to 35, really getting a good feel for the test before I ventured into the modern era).
  
  

  @jimenezja.jj said:
  Good morning,
  When will the new schedule be updated. I see you have changed the days to Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. Thank you for all your help @DumbHollywoodActor
  

  I thought I did update the schedule. If it’s any date seems inaccurate, please let me know. Thanks
• Mookittyy Member

  December 2015 167 karma

  I am in generally, but I wouldn't be able to join any of the weekday sessions because I work until 5:30 pm PST and don't get home until 6. Suggestions?
  
  Also, I recommend you keep all the June Study Group information consolidated in one forum topic. It is very confusing trying to find current and complete information with 3 to 4 different topics on the same content.
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  DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 edited December 2015 7468 karma

  @Mookittyy welcome!
  
  You can come and go to the BR groups as you please. They usually run around 3 hours and usually start off slow (sometimes, it takes over an hour to get through the first section).
  
  The BR groups and the workshops, though organized both by me, are two separate entities. One is a group who get together to discuss particular PTs. The other is a webinar-like workshop, centered on a particular fundamental topic and lead by a 7sage tutor.
• Mookittyy Member

  December 2015 167 karma

  Thanks! BTW - how do I "mention" someone in a post so they get a notification? Just adding the @ in front of the username?
  
  Also, if I did want to jump into a workshop or BR session that is already underway, what process would I take to get there? Very unfamiliar with online group things and Skype, etc.
  
  Thanks for your help!
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 edited December 2015 7468 karma

  @Mookittyy yes you use @ then start spelling the name and then highlighting the person you wish to mention. You can also quote people by highlighting what a person says and then clicking the "quote this" bubble that appears.
  
  For BR groups, you need a Skype account. Usually, at the beginning of the week, I'll make a summary post alerting everyone of upcoming BR group conversations. I'll also make a forum post on the actual day of the BR group. In both posts, there will be a link you can click. To get into that specific BR group, all you need to do is click that particular link.
  
  For workshops, which are very new, we use GoToMeeting. They have a 25 person limit, so we've been releasing the link (just like Skype) to get in about a half hour before it starts. The details of the workshop are still in flux, so I'd advise checking the forum once and a while to stay abreast of the situation.
  
  The forum is a bit of a rabbit's hole, but it's chock full of lots of nuggets of wisdom. You might want to set aside a few hours one day and just take a ride down the rabbit's hole. Welcome.
• hazelnut13 Alum Member

  December 2015 244 karma

  @Mookittyy said:
  I work until 5:30 pm PST and don't get home until 6.
  

  SAME! Sucks to be an adult.
  
  

  @DumbHollywoodActor said:
  You can come and go to the BR groups as you please.
  

  Good to know. I will definitely be joining a little later in the session.
  
  Thanks for organizing all of this, @DumbHollywoodActor!
• GSU Hopeful Core ⭐

  December 2015 1644 karma

  @hazelnut13 and @Mookittyy
  
  I second the sentiments regarding work. Fortunately, I can listen in on the calls but might have to leave at a moments notice. This will severely limit my involvement but at least I'll be able to get some tid bits here and there.
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  DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  @"GSU Hopeful" said:
  @hazelnut13 and @Mookittyy
  

  The BR groups should be for everybody. Would a Sunday BR Group be well attended? We could add that to the mix if I thought more than 5 people would attend regularly...
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  Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor, If i can chime in on the weekday schedule... I've never been on a BR call before, but given the time conflict, perhaps we could ask everyone attending what questions they would like to go over before the BR begins. Maybe we could tally those questions and select the ones that gave almost everyone a hard time. It could possibly cut the time down from 3hrs to 2.5/2hrs? If so, then we could start the call at 9P EST / 6P PST and end before midnight / 9p? And anyone who wants to stay on the call can go over any other questions they have. I'm located in NYC, so I am happy to start later so long as we get through the questions that everyone struggled with first.
  
  As for weekends, I think we should start early, like 11-12p EST / 8-9a PST. I think it's best to just get it out of the way so that we can try* to enjoy the rest of the weekend.
  
  Again, this is just a suggestion. I really appreciate all the time everyone has put into this. Sooo very helpful!
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7468 karma

  Good points. All Noted.

  @Mitzyyyy said:
  I really appreciate all the time everyone has put into this. Sooo very helpful!
  

  You’re welcome!
• Pacifico Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 edited December 2015 8021 karma

  THIS.
• Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  @Pacifico, your response is a little harsh. My comment was merely a suggestion given that there might be a time conflict. If my suggestion doesn't work, it doesn't work...
• Pacifico Alum Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 edited December 2015 8021 karma

  THAT.
• Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  No... you took what I said to someone else out of context. Dave was encouraging others to chime in on the tentative schedule. Am I not allowed to do that? Yes, my suggestion could be totally off (and you could be right), but in no way does it imply that I am not appreciative of what others do.
  
  And your comments aren't always warranted; maybe when they are encouraging and/or informative, but definitely not when they're borderline offensive.
  
  Sorry if my comment rubbed you the wrong way. But again, I am really appreciative of the extra time and effort that people have put in (including you) to help others with the process.
  
  I am going to definitely make as many calls as possible regardless of what the final schedule is. Looking forward to getting the June session started.
• nicole.hopkins Inactive Sage Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7965 karma

  @Mitzyyyy said:
  I've never been on a BR call before, but given the time conflict, perhaps we could ask everyone attending what questions they would like to go over before the BR begins. Maybe we could tally those questions and select the ones that gave almost everyone a hard time.
  

  We've never had the opportunity to try this out—would you like to volunteer to coordinate the effort? The BR calls run because of the volunteerism of community members such as yourself! It could be nice to try something new but of course we would need your help to do so.
• Maritzaa Alum Member

  December 2015 368 karma

  Sure, if the mentor and others think my suggestion works, then why not? Always happy to help.
  
  Just trying to help the mentor figure out the time constraint.
  
• GSU Hopeful Core ⭐

  December 2015 1644 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor Thank you for the offer, but that's not necessary. I wasn't griping about the time or anything like that. Work is work, nothing we can do about that. My comment was merely stating that my verbal involvement would be limited on the calls because of the distractions in my background. I can't help how others took it as I was simply stating a fact. I appreciate your offer and hard work in organizing these things. My work comment was not directed at you or the group.
• GSU Hopeful Core ⭐

  December 2015 1644 karma

  @Pacifico I fail to see where there was any harassment when the man clearly asked for input from the beginning. No one stated they didn't appreciate Dave or what he is doing to help us. As always, thank you for your contributions to this community.
• nicole.hopkins Inactive Sage Inactive ⭐

  December 2015 7965 karma

  @Mitzyyyy said:
  Sure, if the mentor and others think my suggestion works, then why not? Always happy to help.
  

  I could picture a system that would poll people as to which questions they'd like to cover, but I hesitate to recommend this as it would considerably increase timeload for all involved (not just whoever's organizing the call, but also for the users). Furthermore, a lot of the benefit I've personally gotten from the 40+ BR calls I attended was of a rather unexpected sort—a question I didn't realize I'd missed, for instance, and would therefore not have known to flag for review.
  
  The logistics of such an approach are a bit intimidating; I recognize that my one-off idea for this is not the only idea and would like to hear what other folks envision for streamlining the calls (if such a goal is universally sought). While the benefit of shaving .5 or 1 hours off of a call is certainly attractive on the point of folks getting to bed earlier, I wonder if this consideration overemphasizes the pedagogical return of the calls. That is to say—for me, these calls were as much about camaraderie as anything else. Attempting to squeeze all of the extra minutes out of the call would seriously jeopardize that function.
  
  But, @Mitzyyyy — why not join a call or two and see what you think? I'm all about innovations making these calls easier and more enjoyable for all involved! Thanks for your input and look forward to having you on soon.
• Seriousbird Alum Member

  December 2015 1278 karma

  @DumbHollywoodActor If I could put my vote in to keep the 70s from 72 onwards (I didn't see 70 or 71 listed earlier in the schedule), I adjusted my prepschedule to include those in my first few weeks of PT's.
• JURISDOCTOR35 Free Trial Member

  January 2016 48 karma

  I am game for sure for all study sessions. Taking the June 2016 test. I noticed that on January 5, we will be doing PT 35, not to sound ? but where do I get the PT35 from ? also i have the Chromebook 2 that does not support " Skype", ugh....however, I do have google everything. lol Thank you all for having alot of patience, Much appreciated.
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  twssmith Alum ⭐

  January 2016 5120 karma

  @JURISDOCTOR35 Thanks to the 7Sage community, the BR calls are now on GoToMeeting, DumbHollywood actor posts every week with the sessions and the link to join.
  The following link will explain how to find the PT's. If you have the ability, I highly recommend getting the PDF versions if Cambridge website still provides them.
  http://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2770/list-of-affordable-pts-paperback-hard-copy
  Hope this helps!
• Maritzaa Alum Member

  January 2016 368 karma

  Has the time changed from 8p to 5p ET?
• twssmith Alum ⭐

  January 2016 edited January 2016 5120 karma

  @Mitzyyyy All times are PST - so 8 ET. I look forward to joining the calls soon:)
• lawyerme? Alum Member

  January 2016 31 karma

  I wish I could participate. Any weekend sessions?
• DumbHollywoodActor Alum Inactive ⭐

  January 2016 7468 karma

  @lawyerme? There are Saturday BR groups (on the schedule above) here and the February test-takers have BR group on Sundays.