LSAC Chronograph Ban - this includes LSAT watches

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  • nevadacity37nevadacity37 Free Trial Member
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    @westcoastbestcoast said:
    I emailed lsac with the lsat watch i have that goes from 0-35 minutes and they informed me that this LSAT specific watch is fine for use.

    This is in direct contradiction to what I was told by an LSAC representative but only 3 days ago. I was told that a watch must function to tell time. I am not saying this poster is wrong, I am just trying to contribute to the discussion about what I was told versus other information posted here. It seems to me that until LSAC comes out with a definitive, published list of watches are allowed, and those that are banned, this is an entirely un-tennable policy they have set forth. I suppose having it in writing via an email is best. My conversation with LSAC was on the phone. However, I don't know how much a printed email saying your watch is allowable is going to save you on test day if an LSAC rep that is working the test that day decides your watch isn't allowed.

  • Not Ralph NaderNot Ralph Nader Alum Member Inactive Sage Inactive ⭐
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    @"Accounts Playable" said:

    @JustDoIt said:

    @"Accounts Playable" said:
    I used a cheap Casio watch with a rotating bezel, and I liked it better than watches with a "reset" timer button anyway.

    Would you mind sharing/providing a link to the watch you used? Thanks!

    https://www.amazon.com/Casio-MRW200H-7EV-Sport-Resin-Watch/dp/B005JVP0FU/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1500916706&sr=8-23&keywords=casio+watch+bezel

    I couldn't find the exact one, but this was the closest. It's a few dollars more expensive than the one I bought, too.

    I used a similar watch on my test, it was more than sufficient.

  • westcoastbestcoastwestcoastbestcoast Alum Member
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    @RafaelBernard its an LSATMax watch but an older model without the rotating bezel. It has a crown that you can use to pause and reset the timer so I'm a bit surprised that this watch got approved.

  • westcoastbestcoastwestcoastbestcoast Alum Member
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    @nevadacity37 When I talked to the LSAC representative, he told he wasn't really sure and my best bet was to send an email. In this email, I talked about the functionality and even sent a picture of how the watch looks, which clearly indicates 0 to 35 minutes.

  • westcoastbestcoastwestcoastbestcoast Alum Member
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    @nevadacity37 It is odd and a bit troublesome that even the LSAC employees don't seem to have reached a consensus on what constitutes a chronograph watch. I don't know what this will mean how proctors will judge and assess the watches.

  • akistotleakistotle Member 🍌🍌
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    @westcoastbestcoast said:
    @RafaelBernard its an LSATMax watch but an older model without the rotating bezel. It has a crown that you can use to pause and reset the timer so I'm a bit surprised that this watch got approved.

    Is this the one? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/d9/56/0fd95682dcc60df9051c7b461f0ae23a.jpg

  • dml277dml277 Alum Member
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    Interesting. It'd be awesome if the lsatmax watch is allowed but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk, given all the uncertain replies and the fact that we need to take some time to get used to whichever watch we're using for the test. Hmm...

    @RafaelBernard Yea I tried looking for a watch with tiny marks going up to 35 but they all seem to end at 15. I figured the tiny marks inside (not on the bezel) would do the job. Is that too difficult to see?

  • westcoastbestcoastwestcoastbestcoast Alum Member
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    @akistotle that is the one

  • akistotleakistotle Member 🍌🍌
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    @westcoastbestcoast said:
    @akistotle that is the one

    I have the same one! But I'm also using Casio.... Maybe I'll bring both.

  • westcoastbestcoastwestcoastbestcoast Alum Member
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    @akistotle I'm thinking of bring both just in case. Having a rotating bezel might be more convenient since it takes longer to pull and the push down crown to reset the time as opposed to just rotating a bezel.

  • Daniel BDaniel B Member
    edited October 2017 79 karma

    Wow, I'm so pissed about this. I never would have bought my Master Mind watch had I known this. Now a complete waste of $60.

  • studyingandrestudyingstudyingandrestudying Core Member
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    Hi, I hear you. I was seriously planning on buying one and imagining using it before I heard about the new rule.

  • Daniel BDaniel B Member
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    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

  • tams2018tams2018 Member
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    Guess I can remove my bookmark for the 180 watch.

    I need to hurry up and finish taking this exam before the rules get even more restrictive!

  • FerdaFreshFerdaFresh Alum Member
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    @"Daniel B" said:
    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

    Did she mention lsatmax watch?

  • SprinklesSprinkles Alum Member
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    @"Daniel B" said:
    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

    this makes me wonder why they're still in production??

  • AlexAlex Alum Member
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    @"Daniel B" said:
    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

    Thanks for this! I have a perfect score watch that I was worried may cause trouble. I'm still a fan of the Casio watches but the perfect score is also simple and gets the job done.

  • Leah M BLeah M B Alum Member
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    @Sprinkles said:

    @"Daniel B" said:
    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

    this makes me wonder why they're still in production??

    Agreed, I think it's kinda awful that they are still selling the Mastermind Watch.

    FWIW, I believe you that those are approved by LSAC, but I would personally still be a little cautious that proctors might turn you away at the door. It sounds like the test center folks aren't always consistent. So a safer (and much cheaper) bet would still be just getting the Casio style watch with a rotating bezel.

    https://www.amazon.com/Casio-Classic-Quartz-Resin-Watch/dp/B01BY7I1J4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510171012&sr=8-3&keywords=casio+rotating+bezel

  • Daniel BDaniel B Member
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    @FerdaFresh - No, I actually asked about the LSAT MAX watch and she said she didn't have it on her list either way. So best bet would be to email lsacinfo@lsac.org and ask specifically.

    @Sprinkles @"Leah M B" I do agree they should stop production of the watches that are aren't allowed anymore, but its a total bummer for these guys too because I'm sure they have quite a bit of inventory on hand that is now a loss.

    @"Alex Divine" - You bet! I'm considering purchasing one too. Its only $20 ish.

    @"Leah M B" I guess you could be right, but it sounded pretty promising that she pulled up an exact list of what LSAT specific watches are approved.

  • Daniel BDaniel B Member
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    Update: I have received a response email from LSAC that the lsatmax watch is on the list for approved LSAT watches for test day Dec 2017.

    The list of approved watches includes:
    LSATmax
    PerfectScore
    Toptier
    Casio LSAT watch (again haven't been able to locate this one whatever it is)

    Hope this helps.

  • FerdaFreshFerdaFresh Alum Member
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    @"Daniel B" said:
    Update: I have received a response email from LSAC that the lsatmax watch is on the list for approved LSAT watches for test day Dec 2017.

    The list of approved watches includes:
    LSATmax
    PerfectScore
    Toptier
    Casio LSAT watch (again haven't been able to locate this one whatever it is)

    Hope this helps.

    This is thread keeps getting funnier and funnier... I was on the phone with an LSAC representative last week and she said no lsatmax watch.

    The takeaway is be safe and bring a back up plan people. It's getting pretty arbitrary at this point.

  • FerdaFreshFerdaFresh Alum Member
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    @"Daniel B" said:
    @FerdaFresh
    I'm not sure how to post actual pictures but these links are screen shots of my email conversation with them about the lsatmax watch.
    I guess if we all have these screenshots saved or printed the proctor couldn't go against it.

    Thanks a lot man that's awesome of you!

  • samantha.ashley92samantha.ashley92 Alum Member
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    Ok but you can reset a regular wrist watch to 12:00 and have it count up to 35 minutes for each section. I don't see how this would be any different. It seems kind of crazy.

  • Daniel BDaniel B Member
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    @"samantha.ashley92"
    Yeah, you sure could. Whatever you feel works for you is great. It's all about increased confidence walking into the exam. For me 19.99 for the perfect score watch is well worth it. I like that it has colored sections to help me keep track of my pace.

  • LCMama2017LCMama2017 Alum Member
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    @"samantha.ashley92" said:
    Ok but you can reset a regular wrist watch to 12:00 and have it count up to 35 minutes for each section. I don't see how this would be any different. It seems kind of crazy.

    That's what I did.... $7 at walmart. Got one with the big numbers. Worked mighty fine in Sept.

  • LCMama2017LCMama2017 Alum Member
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    @Sprinkles said:

    @"Daniel B" said:
    I purchased the Master Mind Watch a few weeks back and then found out that it might not be approved anymore. I called into LSAC to find out exactly what the policy is. The representative I spoke with gave me a list of LSAT specific watches that are on the approved list of watches. Unfortunately, the Master Mind Watch is not one of them due to its start/stop/reset capabilities. However, she did tell me that the perfect score watch is approved as well as the Top Tier watch. She also told me the Casio LSAT watch is approved although I haven't found that one. Here are the links to two of the watches that she did say are approved.

    https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Score-Watch-Version-LSAT/dp/B073Z8GG32

    https://www.amazon.com/Toptier-Custom-LSAT-Watch-Exam/dp/B00OGW9N92

    this makes me wonder why they're still in production??

    So they can sucker in those people that don't know any better.

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