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(In/Out game) OR questions!

hihihi9993hihihi9993 Member
in Logic Games 347 karma

TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

1) Let's say I want to find all "OR pairs" within /N->/O->J->/K->P. Is the following list a complete "OR pairs":
/N->P
/O->P
/K->P
/N->J
/O->J
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.
.
.
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2) If we are given /N->/O->J in IN/OUT game,is it okay to represent this as N/O/J in one slot of IN group? or do we have to choose between N/J and O/J?

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  • akistotleakistotle Member 🍌🍌
    9382 karma

    @d931n027h said:
    TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

    1) Let's say I want to find all "OR pairs" within /N->/O->J->/K->P. Is the following list a complete "OR pairs":
    /N->P
    /O->P
    /K->P
    /N->J
    /O->J

    I think this is ok.

    2) If we are given /N->/O->J in IN/OUT game,is it okay to represent this as N/O/J in one slot of IN group?

    I think you shouldn't represent it that way.

    N/O/J looks like if N is in the IN group, O and J are free to go anywhere. But it isn't the case here.

  • hihihi9993hihihi9993 Member
    347 karma

    @akistotle said:

    @d931n027h said:
    TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

    1) Let's say I want to find all "OR pairs" within /N->/O->J->/K->P. Is the following list a complete "OR pairs":
    /N->P
    /O->P
    /K->P
    /N->J
    /O->J

    I think this is ok.

    2) If we are given /N->/O->J in IN/OUT game,is it okay to represent this as N/O/J in one slot of IN group?

    I think you shouldn't represent it that way.

    N/O/J looks like if N is in the IN group, O and J are free to go anywhere. But it isn't the case here.

    If /A->B, we would represent that as A/B in IN group though... Right?
    Then @akistotle, how would you represent it? N/O and O/J in IN group??

    (Thank you always!)

  • akistotleakistotle Member 🍌🍌
    9382 karma

    @d931n027h said:

    @akistotle said:

    @d931n027h said:
    TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

    1) Let's say I want to find all "OR pairs" within /N->/O->J->/K->P. Is the following list a complete "OR pairs":
    /N->P
    /O->P
    /K->P
    /N->J
    /O->J

    I think this is ok.

    2) If we are given /N->/O->J in IN/OUT game,is it okay to represent this as N/O/J in one slot of IN group?

    I think you shouldn't represent it that way.

    N/O/J looks like if N is in the IN group, O and J are free to go anywhere. But it isn't the case here.

    If /A->B, we would represent that as A/B in IN group though... Right?
    Then @akistotle, how would you represent it? N/O and O/J in IN group??

    (Thank you always!)

    For /N->/O->J, I would just represent O/J in the IN slot and write O --> N closer to it. You can't write "N/O and O/J in IN group" because N and O don't have OR relationship.

    Even if they do (if the rule said /N --> O, /O --> J), I would represent only O/J in the IN slot because if you write N/O and O/J, they take up two slots, and you may miss the case where O is in and N and J are out.

  • saberatisaberati Alum Member
    94 karma

    I'd probably do J/O* to remind me that O in is N in

  • hihihi9993hihihi9993 Member
    347 karma

    @akistotle said:

    @d931n027h said:

    @akistotle said:

    @d931n027h said:
    TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

    1) Let's say I want to find all "OR pairs" within /N->/O->J->/K->P. Is the following list a complete "OR pairs":
    /N->P
    /O->P
    /K->P
    /N->J
    /O->J

    I think this is ok.

    2) If we are given /N->/O->J in IN/OUT game,is it okay to represent this as N/O/J in one slot of IN group?

    I think you shouldn't represent it that way.

    N/O/J looks like if N is in the IN group, O and J are free to go anywhere. But it isn't the case here.

    If /A->B, we would represent that as A/B in IN group though... Right?
    Then @akistotle, how would you represent it? N/O and O/J in IN group??

    (Thank you always!)

    For /N->/O->J, I would just represent O/J in the IN slot and write O --> N closer to it. You can't write "N/O and O/J in IN group" because N and O don't have OR relationship.

    Even if they do (if the rule said /N --> O, /O --> J), I would represent only O/J in the IN slot because if you write N/O and O/J, they take up two slots, and you may miss the case where O is in and N and J are out.

    Your way sounds superb. Thank you!

  • hihihi9993hihihi9993 Member
    347 karma

    @saberati said:
    I'd probably do J/O* to remind me that O in is N in

    *! Another great way! Thank you!!! :)

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