So just to clarify, if a conditional statement has the word "must" in it, does that indicate the necessary condition? For example, consider this statement: "If I go to the store, then it must be Tuesday." So applying Lawgic, it would translate to S → T or /T → /S. So it is something that is required in order for the condition to become true?
Just going to point out that the indicators are called "conditional indicators" in the first half of the video starting at about 1:10, however they are changed to "logical indicators" by the end. This might confuse some people.
Unrelated but i just switched to V2 so I am lightly reviewing everything I already went through on V1 but on V2. I really appreciate the speed of these videos! I feel like the other ones went super fast (which is also appreciated) but this pace makes me feel less anxious while learning lol
#help I am still struggling to understand the immutable trait example for some reason. I just don't get why the reverse is not true.
It makes more sense to me to say,
"IF they make a showing that the characteristic defining the class is an immutable trait, THEN the plaintiffs qualify as a suspect class for the purpose of equal protection analysis."
Can someone please break this down if they were also confused but found a way to understand it better?
Would Once you realize this, you see that it doesn’t matter what ideas go into this structure also be a conditional statement, with realizing it being sufficient for seeing that it doesn't matter what ideas for into the structure?
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If you can't see that it doesn't matter what ideas go into the structure, then you can't realize this.
I did not see that it doesn't matter, therefore I did not realize this.
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I realized this; therefore I see it doesn't matter
I honestly found this lesson on Lawgic to be pretty cool and easy. of course when I'm done with my study plan I will run drills and take a ton of test to make sure I know how to do it on my own, overall though pretty good lesson. #LSATInSeptemeber
I feel like lawgic is a nice concept to briefly go over but I do not find it necessary in order to understand arguments in the LSAT better. If anything, it would waste more valuable time during the test to use lawgic
Would be great to have a skillbuilder lesson before this one to help us practice all the things we learned in this category so we don't forget them by the time we get to the actual first skillbuilder coming up.
#help In conditional premises, if we change the binding in the second idea to something weaker and indefinite like "may", does that remove the necessary condition from the relationship altogether?
for example: If one is a Jedi, then one may be on the Jedi Council.
But this doesn't imply that everyone on the Jedi council is a Jedi. I think visually this would look like a Venn Diagram, but I am not sure if that is accurate or if this example is outside the scope of conditional relationships.
It may be helpful to note that when 'If' is used to indicate sufficiency, the word 'then' is usually used to indicate necessity. "If you are in New York, then you are in the U.S.".
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"if" : Conditional indicator ?
As I am reviewing my conditional rules, a bank of diagrams in one place would be helpful. Does that exist?
So just to clarify, if a conditional statement has the word "must" in it, does that indicate the necessary condition? For example, consider this statement: "If I go to the store, then it must be Tuesday." So applying Lawgic, it would translate to S → T or /T → /S. So it is something that is required in order for the condition to become true?
Just going to point out that the indicators are called "conditional indicators" in the first half of the video starting at about 1:10, however they are changed to "logical indicators" by the end. This might confuse some people.
Unrelated but i just switched to V2 so I am lightly reviewing everything I already went through on V1 but on V2. I really appreciate the speed of these videos! I feel like the other ones went super fast (which is also appreciated) but this pace makes me feel less anxious while learning lol
#help I am still struggling to understand the immutable trait example for some reason. I just don't get why the reverse is not true.
It makes more sense to me to say,
"IF they make a showing that the characteristic defining the class is an immutable trait, THEN the plaintiffs qualify as a suspect class for the purpose of equal protection analysis."
Can someone please break this down if they were also confused but found a way to understand it better?
Would Once you realize this, you see that it doesn’t matter what ideas go into this structure also be a conditional statement, with realizing it being sufficient for seeing that it doesn't matter what ideas for into the structure?
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If you can't see that it doesn't matter what ideas go into the structure, then you can't realize this.
I did not see that it doesn't matter, therefore I did not realize this.
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I realized this; therefore I see it doesn't matter
Could anyone explain this to me please: "If X, Y" says that X is sufficient for Y and Y is necessary for X.
I am very confused and would appreciate any #help
I honestly found this lesson on Lawgic to be pretty cool and easy. of course when I'm done with my study plan I will run drills and take a ton of test to make sure I know how to do it on my own, overall though pretty good lesson. #LSATInSeptemeber
I feel like lawgic is a nice concept to briefly go over but I do not find it necessary in order to understand arguments in the LSAT better. If anything, it would waste more valuable time during the test to use lawgic
Would be great to have a skillbuilder lesson before this one to help us practice all the things we learned in this category so we don't forget them by the time we get to the actual first skillbuilder coming up.
#help In conditional premises, if we change the binding in the second idea to something weaker and indefinite like "may", does that remove the necessary condition from the relationship altogether?
for example: If one is a Jedi, then one may be on the Jedi Council.
But this doesn't imply that everyone on the Jedi council is a Jedi. I think visually this would look like a Venn Diagram, but I am not sure if that is accurate or if this example is outside the scope of conditional relationships.
It may be helpful to note that when 'If' is used to indicate sufficiency, the word 'then' is usually used to indicate necessity. "If you are in New York, then you are in the U.S.".