Anyone else attending JY's RC wokshop here in NYC? Excited?

Any thoughts on how the study format will be?

Anyone else struggling on the digital RC about how to markup the low-res notations for each paragraph? Solutions?

Question: is it normal to be missing a couple of questions on each of the comparative and context identification quizzes? Also, when do I move on from the grammar? I feel like I grasp the concepts, but I'm still getting, especially the harder, questions wrong.

Hey fellow LSAT'rs!!

I'm looking for a study partner to each other motivated, accountable, and problem solve. Basically someone who'll be my buddy every step of the way on our LSAT prep. One of the deficiencies with online courses is that you don't have the same accountability as in-person courses have. This, I believe, can be somewhat mitigated by a steady partner--especially someone local to periodically meet up.

Goals: I've done some study before, but I'm starting afresh with the full Ultimate+ syllabus. My diagnostic score was 156, however, 170+ is my ultimate goal (really 175+ so I get into Harvard problem-free, but that's just a touch delusional :-)). I'm serious and committed to doing whatever it takes to get a high score.

If you're interested, please message me here or via txt @347-770-5573 to discuss times etc.

What do you guys use? The sites I found like US news make you pay to see a lot...

Here are some thoughts from the LSAC Forum in NYC. Of course, this is all my own opinion based on today's experience and should not necessarily be taken as the word of God! No, I'm not that haughty...

First, the workshops were not that illuminating, at least for me. Perhaps if you're entirely unfamiliar with the process, there would be some benefit, but for most students, you'd use your time more effectively by chatting with the admissions officers.

Second, business casual is fine. For some reason, I was a bit apprehensive about not wearing a suit, even though I had seen posts saying that business casual was appropriate. However, although most of the admissions officers wore more formal clothes, a majority of the students wore business casual attire.

Third, bring a briefcase or bag with you. I cannot stress how important this is for you! Every school will give you an equivalent of a couple of trees worth of flyers and glossy magazines titled "101 reasons to come to UMichigan!" If you plan on taking them with you, bringing a sturdy bag or briefcase is vital. LSAC did provide the classic tote bag, however. So that will probably be enough for most people's needs.

Fourth, try to give a face to the name. In my estimation, the Forum can be used most effectively by building rapport with the reps in addition to asking specific questions. Use some humor particular self-deprecating. You want to move past the mechanistic speech each one of them have stored in their heads. One person whom I spoke to sounded like a robot mechanically answering questions with little thought or personality. Obviously, don't go overboard or try to be something that you aren't, but leaving an impression (even just that you're personable) seems important. I think thanking for coming to the forum and chatting with you is a great way to leave an impression. I asked the Yale Law admissions officer--with whom I spoke with for a while--for a selfie, and he happily acquiesced!! Don't be shy. Most of them were quite personable. Remember, they'll have all your stats when you apply, but they won't know you. Building rapport at the Forum can make your application stand out.

Fifth, comfort the 2/3 of law schools no one is interested in. The contrast was stark. It was like a speed dating event in which only one-third of the people aroused interest. I felt so sorry for the South Dakota Law School. I mean no one came over to them. So, do your good deed for the day and make them feel desired!

I took the test today. Needless to say, not feeling good. I already cancelled once. This was my second take. I know I did poorly. The deadline to sign up for September is in 45 minutes. Is there any downside to waiting until November? At this point I’m not sure if it’s for me, even though I want to try one last time. I made great improvements but today was just... off. Logic games were nothing like what I was prepping. Was constantly getting -5 max and I’m lucky to have gotten 10 right today. Any help appreciated. Not sure if I should keep the dream alive or get my masters in teaching starting this September.

The last center I had had a clock. Do you think I should run to walmart and get an analog one or chance it?

Should I be concerned that, in the LG drill packs, I'm only completing about 10% of them in the requisite time? Obviously, after doing the Fool Proof method I can reach the correct timing, but I don't yet feel confident that I would get them correct within the time frame if they were new.

Any advice or encouragement would be greatly appreciated!

Can someone explain the difference--if there is one in fact--between causal and conditional relationships/statements? Seemingly, A causing B is the same as saying if you have A, then you must have B. In effect, the sufficient condition is the cause for the necessary condition; without it, the necessary condition wouldn't exist. Therefore, a conditional relationship is a valid causal relationship. There are no competing hypothesis nor potential for the cause and effect to be swapped with each other.

Not sure if the above is true. Please comment with your observations.

Question: in the sentence, "If you’re not greedy, you’re not a business school student" the two different conditional indicators confuse me: if I use "If" then I get /G-->/BS (Or BS-->G); however, if I use "not," then I can come out G-->BS (I negate the BS and make it the NC, and then I'm left with the G which become the SC and also has the SC indicator "If"). So, which one do I choose? I know the first way is correct, but I'm not sure why.

Is it the case that "If" overpowers "not", and "not" is merely a negation and not a logical indicator?

I'm taking the June LSAT and looking for a study partner who wants to score a 170+. Can either be in-person or via Skype. If you're interested, message me.

Below is a sequential timer you can use for the RC Memory Method (3.5, 1.5, and 3.5 minutes). This way you know exactly when to move on to the next phase without changing the timer.

https://www.timeanddate.com/timer/

Should I diagram a "might" statement as an existential quantifier? Like "If Jack is smart, he might eat healthy." But, it doesn't have to be the case that Jack ever eats healthy, so that's why I don't think it's correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Anyone else worried about going to law school and then, with the advent of AI, not finding a job? I have seen various studied and predictions about the pace of AI's growth and dominance, but I'm not sure what to believe...

If there is a real threat to law careers, which field in law would be the least susceptible to that threat?

Has anyone used Ellen Cassidy's new LR book -- The Loophole. There seem to be rave reviews on Reddit. If you have used it, is there anything revolutionary about it? Are its approaches similar to 7Sage's?

I have been telling everyone that I will be going to law school this year (including someone who is going to the same school I plan to go to as a 1L)... what can I tell people to not look stupid for waiting a year? Everyone thinks I'm starting this september. I know it doesn't matter what they think... just looking for a good excuse to not look stupid. Or a reason to maybe hold off a year, even if they think I got in.

When it says "very high" what does that mean?

I'm looking for a study buddy for accountability and BR. Currently, I'm finishing up the CC and plan on moving on to the PT's.

My diagnostic score was a 156, and my target is 173; the plan is to take take the LSAT sometime in the fall or winter of 2019/2020. I'm pretty much studying full-time, so my study schedule is pretty flexible. I've been studying for a while now and am almost ready to start focusing almost exclusively on PT's.

I've found that going through the reasoning of a LG or a LR passage and orally making the inferences with another person is quite helpful -- the same might be for you. Just the fact that you aren't stuck in your thoughts is crucial.

Let me if you are interested, and we can see if we work well together.

Can someone please critique my understanding of the distinction between Strengthen and SA questions?

I think it something like this: strengthen questions merely require introducing a supporting premise or negating a potential weakness. SA/PSA are more specific in that they don't want any random supporting premise but one that links the premises with the conclusion. Essentially, an assumption that from it is sufficient to know the conclusion.

Also, I don't fully get the the difference between SA and PSA questions, and is it really important to know? Examples would be appreciated.

Currently, I'm following the syllabus and in middle of the MSS questions sets. While I got almost all of the early--and easy--question sets correct, I haven't kept that up for the more difficult ones. My question is, is that normal, and am I expected to know how to answer these difficult questions without any knowledge of logic (that's the order the syllabus has them)?

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Would it be possible for the recommended time for each game in LG to be added to the main page instead of having to click on the individual game's explanation? I'm documenting my timing and answers on a spreadsheet, and it would make it a lot easier if you would include the timing next the average score. TY

Hi guys,

LSAC offers a forum in which they have workshops about the LSAT and law school apps, as well reps from many of the schools who are there to talk to you. The NYC one is coming up at the end of October.

Questions: if I don't plan on applying until next year, would it still be beneficial for me to attend the workshops and meet with the law schools? Is there an advantage to attending the forum a year early? Is the event even worth attending at all? If there is benefit, what is it and how can I benefit most?

Would appreciate feedback from anyone who was in my situation or who has in general attended the forums.

Just wondering (to give myself some hope), has anyone on here seen a twenty point increase from their diagnostic as a result of intensive study? Specifically from the mid 150's to the mid 170's? If so, any advice?

In his video on EC, JY discusses the example A ----> (B---> C), where the embedded part is second, and it becomes A + B ----> C. But what if the embedded conditional is first [(A--->B) ----> C], what would the mechanical rule be then? Do we say that A----> B + C?