Thanks for the responses! @.Sieradzki Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for. I was making a point to try to stick to the basic conditional statements without quantifying over anything or using other connectives, but then the "some" notation was introduced which seems to be used sort of like a pseudo-existential quantifier. I'll definitely make sure I have the 4 groups down. J.Y. tends to go into such exquisite detail at times, which I think might be causing me to overthink this! :smiley:

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I found the judicial candor RC passage difficult. Anyone else as mediocre at the LSAT as me? Anyone else living in mediocrity? Please validate me.

The consensus is that that was a particularly hard passage. Normally RC is one of my strongest sections, but the judges put me in my place.

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Well I struggled hard with it even though I am pretty good at LG. The other LG section was definitely easier and more likely to match your description. Probably now LSAC is the only one to tell which section is the experimental one

I'm not questioning you but is there no way that you've mixed up the superficial content (theatres, menu items blah blah) of one section with the actual games of the other? The wildly different experiences with this section are absolutely fascinating to me.

I really do think that this section must be the real one, though, because otherwise I wouldn't have had a real LG section!

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Yeah, the situation with LG is a little odd. I was certain that it went perfectly until I started looking on the forums, which had me second guess myself. It is best not to worry. There is nothing we can do now. We worked hard and gave it our best!

Reading these forums last night and this morning has made me super paranoid that the 'twist' for this section wasn't a game, but LSAC including answers for each question that seemed to work if a rule was misinterpreted at the beginning. Normally you'd catch this after the first couple questions when you realize there was no 'right' answer or two 'right' answers, but not on this one. It just felt -so- easy and open-ended.

Don't give my conspiracies too much credit, of course, this would be cruel even for LSAC.

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Yes, the real LG section is the one with East/West. I also only had 1 LG.

I felt that it was easy, but a little bit trickier than June's LG. It had more variety than June's LG. In June, a lot of the games were very similar. One of the ways that the LSAT adds difficulty is by changing things up with various games or question types in a section. I think that is what they were trying to do in this LG section.

Was June the test with all sequencing games? I wasn't able to get PT 81 in time for yesterday.

And while there was definitely some variety in game types, I felt that they picked literally the easiest possible games for each category. The menu ordering game in particular was the simplest sequencing game I've ever seen - it seems to me that the people who had trouble with it misinterpreted one of the rules.

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I only had one LG section, and it was East/West, menu specials, interrogators, and student presentations.

Thanks. Did you find it to be hard, or standard?

It was far and away the easiest LG section I've come across, to the point that I'm concerned I did something wrong. People seem to be split 50/50 between agreeing with me and thinking it was quite difficult, so this is all very strange. It's definitely the real one either way, though.

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I only had one LG section, and it was East/West, menu specials, interrogators, and student presentations.

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No schools average. Some people claim that Yale does, but there is no evidence for this. There is in fact evidence that they do not. Schools only care about the highest.

This may or may not be applicable to OP, but Toronto does definitely average. It's possible that nobody in the US does, but it's not accurate to say that "no" school does it.

From UofT's website:

"Repeated Attempts: If more than one LSAT score is reported, all LSAT scores will be seen and considered by the Admissions Committee. Generally, we place emphasis on the highest LSAT score reported"

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No schools average. Some people claim that Yale does, but there is no evidence for this. There is in fact evidence that they do not. Schools only care about the highest.

This may or may not be applicable to OP, but Toronto does definitely average. It's possible that nobody in the US does, but it's not accurate to say that "no" school does it.

May I ask if you found reliable sources that explicitly say Toronto averages multiple LSAT scores? I'm looking at their website right now and it says:

"If more than one LSAT score is reported, all LSAT scores will be seen and considered by the Admissions Committee. Generally, we place emphasis on the highest LSAT score reported."

https://www.law.utoronto.ca/admissions/jd-admissions/application-procedure

This is very interesting - I don't remember the exact language, but I'm 100% certain that their site has not always said this. UoT is known up here for their 'holistic' approach to applications, and their LSAT policy has always reflected this. That paragraph is new, so I wonder if they might've changed their policy... Anyway evidently I'm wrong.

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Like with PrepTests after each PT I could go back and check my answers immediately and figure out what I got right and what I got wrong, reinforce the right logic, etc.

But... blind review... :(

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Without going into detail, did anyone else find the second real logic game (restaurant food specials) --extremely-- easy? I'm starting to get concerned that I missed something and it's making me anxious.

I thought so, I think most people's difficulty came in misinterpreting one of the rules based on what I've seen

That's what I'm getting too - some conversation in this thread just has me second guessing myself. The game just felt very unrestricted to me, even in comparison to the other games.

Without going into detail, did anyone else find the second real logic game (restaurant food specials) --extremely-- easy? I'm starting to get concerned that I missed something and it's making me anxious.

EDIT: Disregard

Wait for the scores to be released, and then ask for the test to be handscored. If it's obvious where the error was made (you missed one and everything was shifted up by one) sometimes the handscorers will correct for that, apparently.

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No schools average. Some people claim that Yale does, but there is no evidence for this. There is in fact evidence that they do not. Schools only care about the highest.

This may or may not be applicable to OP, but Toronto does definitely average. It's possible that nobody in the US does, but it's not accurate to say that "no" school does it.

You know that makes sense - I guess I was assuming that if drivers pay more attention, it is significantly less important to be careful when crossing, but that assumption probably isn't supported. Even if I'm paying attention, if someone suddenly walks out in front of me it might not help. Regardless that sort of wiggle room is absent in A which means it's definitely the better choice. Thanks for the help :)

Thanks - this makes sense, I totally get that it blocks an alternative explanation which does strengthen the argument in a sense. I guess in this specific context, though, I feel like even though the answer choice blocks an alternative explanation, it also blocks the author's explanation, which means it weakens more than it strengthens.

Suppose instead of "most" the answer choice said, "Drivers almost always pay extremely close attention to pedestrians at or near crosswalks." It would be blocking an alternative explanation in the exact same way as the original AC (probably even moreso) but I feel like this rewording would completely undermine the author's argument in the process. The logic is the same, it's just a stronger version of the AC that doesn't include the "most" problem I mentioned in my OP.

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