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Monday, Feb 26 2018

@ I really need to practice more. I know this. I think the main issue I'm having problem with isn't the work itself but why it matters. Example. People keep asking "can I treat NA questions like MBT questions?" I'm not understanding what that treatment is. I read the question stem and it tells me what the point of the question is but I don't do anything differently. If it says main point, I pick out the main point. If it says what must be true, then I find the answer that must be true to satisfy the argument. I can do the flash cards and get them right because I know what the answer is supposed to be, but I don't understand why the answer is what it is.

I find an indicator which tells me it a SA question vs a NA question. OK, I have this information because I know words such as "If" "When" "Unless", etc are indicators of the sufficient, but why does this help me? They both are questions missing major premises but I'm not sure why its important if its necessary or sufficient. I know what each word means, but I don't treat questions differently, and I need to do so. I've gone back over the lessons, but its just not clicking.

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Saturday, Feb 24 2018

atdangcrash115

Having problem conceptually with Lawgic

I can get through all the quizzes and exercises but I'm having a hard time knowing why or the meaning of things I'm doing. When I look at a SA question, instinctively it makes sense and just reading the question I can normally eliminate 2-3 wrong answers and narrow it down to 2 and if I re-read the Conclusion and Premises, I can pick the right answer. However, when I try to diagram it, it turns into a cluster fuck and I feel I just wasted a bunch of time. The last questions sets, thought, I can see why doing the diagram is important.

I need to understand how to know if an Assumption Question is Sufficient or Necessary, but I still don't understand the "why" aspect if that makes sense. I just read what I'm supposed to get out of the statment and try to predict what kind of answer they are

looking for after I read the argument then I just find what fits. I'm getting about 70% correct, but its the 30% that I know I can probably get a few more if I just understood the "why's" not just the "how". I just cant seem to get the logic to click.

I'm not even sure that this question makes sense. I get the whole X------->Y J (some)A stuff, its the application I'm having problem with.

Is anyone else having a conceptual problem?

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atdangcrash115
Wednesday, Feb 21 2018

@ said:

Wow I feel young and inexperienced compared to this crowd of impressive and seasoned individuals :)

Enjoy the youth and inexperience. That's where most of the fun happens.

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Tuesday, Feb 20 2018

Not sure if it helps, but when I see double negatives such as "is not significantly less expensive" I immediately switch it to something like "is significantly more expensive". Its easier to read and more natural and helps me find what the meaning is so much quicker. I know they write it that way to make it more difficult so instead of trying to do it in my head, I just get rid of them completely.

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Monday, Feb 19 2018

@ said:

Guilty as charged. This will be my second career. I have a BA and MS. My JD will complete my alphabet soup. I have been putting off LS for a while now. I've finally got tired of hitting my head on the glass ceiling, so my goal it to slay the June 2018 LSAT and start in the Fall of 2018. I met with the assistant dean of admissions today to my #1 school and was told admission in the Fall is possible but tight. They have a waiting list to clear first. So if not in 2018, then Fall 2019.

Same here. I have to score 155 to really make it. Took my diagnostic and scored 145. I was hoping that I would be more around 150, but I think I have time to get 10 points. I left my job so I spend all day studying. I'm trying to find a balance between studying and not burning myself out. Best of Luck.

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Monday, Feb 19 2018

I guess what threw me off on B is "it will have begun" meaning that it has already happened. So instead of the reasoning which supported it.

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Friday, Feb 16 2018

I guess I had 2 problems with this question and I hope my rationale doesn't come back to bite me.

I didn't associate Medical Issues with Injuries. In my mind, cancer from radiation is different from a reactor blowing up and injuring 20 people. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be an issue, but when I see "75 days without a workplace injury" sign, I'm not thinking cancer.

Also, removing A as an answer makes us assume that just because the employees are going to training in their spare time that the people in charge are still performing the tasks needed to make sure the work environment is safe. I can do all the training I want but if the company isn't adhering to OSHA standards (or whatever else governs nuclear plant safety) then all the training I do won't matter.

I chose answer A

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atdangcrash115
Friday, Feb 16 2018

@ said:

Reading through everyone's replies is really comforting. I always just assumed that everyone on here was following a much more traditional path to law school. I guess that's just the sort of assumption that you would be penalized for on the LSAT...

I'm 27, and worked as a bartender for the past six years after dropping out partway through my BA. I'm back in school now, finishing off my last year of that degree and studying for the LSAT.

Although I used to think I'm "behind", coming to my LSAT prep with more life experience and knowledge of myself is such an asset. It doesn't seem like such a big sacrifice spending my weekends studying (especially after so much time spent in bars, late night socializing lost some of its lustre!).

Dude, this make not make sense to you now, but 27 is probably the best time for you to go. It may seem like all your friends have it figured out and are killing it, but they are just making it up as they go along. 27 is young and you made a decision and you got it out of your system. Get to work and go after what you want. I've been in F&B. You made a ton of money, probably partied with a ton of hot chicks, and seen a bunch of cool stuff, but you grew. You will never have a "what if". I mean you will, but not about this. If I went to Law School right after undergrad, I can promise you that I would not be a lawyer today. I had to get some stuff out of my system. Stay focused and good luck.

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atdangcrash115
Thursday, Feb 15 2018

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Very happy to see this post! I am also a career changer and soon to be empty-nester. Like the OP, I am thinking of possibly Sept. 2018 but would be fine with 2019 too. Rutgers has a cut-off date of mid-July so if I feel good about my PT's and test in June, I will submit for this fall. I have an undergrad in the arts, on&off career in HR/Recruiting and Lower School Admissions. Had a real moment of clarity after losing my mom in 2016 (and after years spent attending to her health) and knew it was now or never! I feel very happy to be stretching myself in this direction though, it's like water in the desert... I cannot imagine having tried to do this when my kids were little! Those of you taking that on are amazing! Oh and I'm 51 - that should make all of you in your 30's and 40's feel good and young! :D

Wow!!! Good on you. This thread and the simple explanations on the course exercises have really made my anxiety drop. Wishing you the best of luck. I've been a chef for over 20 years and the way I look at it is, if I graduate at 43 that still leaves me with at LEAST 22 years of working in the field of law before retirement.

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atdangcrash115
Thursday, Feb 15 2018

@ said:

I'm in a similar situation. I left a career in business management to finish my B.S. and apply to law school. I'll be starting in Fall 2019. I'm also a single mom with two kids in middle school. Non-traditional? Yeah. That's me. It's a little scary, but I'm so happy I'm doing it. Best of luck to you!

Wow, I'm impressed. I was thinking today how hard it would be if I had kids to worry about. I couldn't imagine dealing with the day to day stuff AND having to study. Best of luck to you as well.

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atdangcrash115
Thursday, Feb 15 2018

@ said:

More or less, yes. I'm 33 and have been out of school for almost 12 years. Not quite as far along as yourself, but enough distance between me and undergrad to feel like a fish out of water when I think about going back to school. I know there's at least several of us in their 30s and I've seen a few beyond that too. You're not alone!

Good Luck. I'm only 3 days into this and got to the Logic Puzzles and thinking wtf was I thinking.

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atdangcrash115
Monday, Feb 12 2018

That's what I was thinking. I'm going to wait a few weeks and then take it. Thanks

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Monday, Feb 12 2018

atdangcrash115

Taking 1st Diagnostic Prep Test

I have no experience at all with the LSAT except for the 1st 4 lessons on here. Should I do the diagnostic test now or should I come back after I’ve done some more of the course work? I know that the point of a diagnostic is to gauge where I stand, but I don’t even know what the test looks like or what kind of questions to expect…is it worth it to bomb the first one out of inexperience or would it be more productive to wait until I see how the test questions are formatted?

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Monday, Mar 05 2018

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Thursday, Mar 01 2018

The astronomer isn't down with OPP.

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Thursday, Mar 01 2018

@ Hang in there. I'm going through the same feelings you are. I left my job to devote all of my time studying for this test and every day I think to myself "what have I done?".

Every day it gets easier but some days are more difficult than others. Sometimes taking a break, getting some exercise, or eating helps but sometimes it doesn't and I try not to stress out about it. I know that's easier said than done, but I don't want to get LSAT fatigue, so if I'm not getting it that day, I just go on to something else or stop completely and try again the next day.

I have no plan B and I'm screwed if I cant get what I need to get into law school in the fall so that is my motivation to not lose sight of the goal.

Hang in there, dude but don't take your eye off of the prize. Nothing in this world worth having comes without some effort.

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