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in addition to all the great advice above I also recommend you pick up the LSAT Trainer for RC. I went from -10 min in RC to -4 avg in a week thanks to the trainer.

oh wow in one week? I'll be sure to check it out. Thank you !

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@ I am in the same boat as you--I am trying to improve my score by 20 in three months. I am currently at a 145. Since you posted this about two months ago, I was hoping you could let us know how you're doing? Have you gotten close to your goal of a score increase of 20-25 points?

Hey! just seeing this but i was able to improve about 10-15 pts average. But i feel that's because i didn't put in as much work as i wanted or should have. I'm working full time.. Looking back its definitely doable! how is yours going so far?

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Exactly. Learn to crawl before you run. I did single passages and games all throughout my studies, even more so right before the test.

Yes! im trying to crawl and not rush. Its so easy to get so caught up in beating the time at for me.

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I would love some suggestions, too! What has helped me overall with PTs is skipping questions. You can start practicing this with individual passages when it gets close-ish to your test date. There is no point in sinking 2 minutes into a question-- especially when the last passage always has so many questions! You don't want to get far behind and then feel rushed. The extra anxiety will make you less attentive.

omg exactly! the moment i realize i have 5 minutes left my attention is zero and i start to feel like there's no point in trying to read any further because its like my brain has frozen.

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Would Saturday afternoon or anytime Sunday work for you all? It looks as though Skype is the preferred platform.

Yes !

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Improving your habits; knowing when to move on and when to stick with something; and a lot of practice. Speed comes from knowing what you are doing and having solid habits spent from a lot of practice. Accuracy should happen simultaneously. For now, focus on single passages and games in order to improve your strategies and habits. Then when you feel comfortable, do whole sections.

Thank you! I was thinking the same about doing single passages instead of trying to it all at once.

I'm interested as well !

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I agree with keets993 I'd say. This will not be easy at all, but it is doable! You should not continue to take PTs until you have worked much more with the basics. Focus on using the Core Curriculum to attack the test part by part and improve in speed and accuracy in each section. Taking full LSATs won't be helpful until you've done that and know what strategies to use for each section and question type. I studied for about 6 months, but just over 3 months in I was still scoring in the low 150s. When I got 7sage Starter and learned how to really study, took the test more seriously (it's a real challenge unlike any I had ever faced) studying smarter and harder for about 2 and a half months, my score improved 21 points to my highest score. Believe in yourself and dedicate time to this every day. If it might help, here is my encouragement post :) https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/14063/first-lowest-pt-150-highest-pt-171-encouragement

Put in the work and stay strong!

Thank you so much for your words! that means a lot honestly. I'm studying everyday while making sure I don't burn out. I'll be back in 2-3 months with an update!

#help Can i get the link to the conditional logic lesson?

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LG and RC are my weakest sections so far with -13 for LG and -17 for RC. I scored in the 140's. Aiming for 160 or higher.

So the good news is that this is definitely achievable if you put the work in, either by June or September. First of all, I would stop taking PT's at this time and go back to the basics. Definetly go through the core curriculum, again if you haven't, and take your time. In order to get into the 160s you have to master the fundamentals: argument structure, grammar, valid and invalid argument forms, lawgic, etc. Logic games is the most learnable section on the test, and multiple people have been able to consistently go 0 or -2 under timed conditions by doing the fullproof method because logic games are extremely repetitive in their patterns. As for RC, there's a lot of gains to be made. How's your LR? LR and RC are related and getting good at argument structure and grammar in LR will help bring that RC score down. Don't do any more PT's until you're done going through the course, it won't be beneficial. I also want to state that blind review is one of the most beneficial things to your lsat studies and it shouldn't be overlooked.

There's also this discussion that discusses in more detail the strategies for getting in the 160s https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11756/how-to-score-a-160

Thank you so much! this is very helpful!

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I need a 20-25 pt increase from my diagnostic test and I have a little over 3 months. I'm willing to put in all the work. I already have a head start on the course. Any advise on how to get there? Thanks in advance.

Sorry, but 3 months is just not enough time, I don't think.

Memorize indicator words, question stems, argument forms. Know formal logic back and front. Know a lot of informal logic. Know some concepts/principles of Aristotelian logic. Drill LR by question type. Drill LG by game type. Do all LG multiple times. Do lots of RC. Do all the newer tests. Do a lot of everything.

I could go on, honestly.

Thank you ! i have already started with the indicators and argument forms. Never thought about doing LG multiple times except BR of course but i'll try that in my next pt.

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We need to know your score breakdown. Also, I was able to get a 20 plus score improvement, but this came after little over 2 years of extended study. It may take you faster, or it may take you longer to get there. Especially in the beginning you shouldn't limit yourself to just three months. You should study as needed to achieve your goal as opposed to forcing a strict deadline. People learn at different paces and it may take you longer.

LG and RC are my weakest sections so far with -13 for LG and -17 for RC. I scored in the low 140's. Aiming for 160 or higher.

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Which 20-25 points are you talking about? 120 to 145 is a very different situation than 155 to 180. Where you at?

No matter the answer though, you're going to need to adjust your expectations. You can lower your goal score or extend your timeline, but that's really your only options here. I scored a 176 from a high 140's diagnostic range, so I know what the kind of improvement you're talking about looks like. And it does not look like what you think it looks like.

So this may come across as discouraging, but I also hope my example can serve as encouragement. These kind of improvements are rare, but they are possible. If you really are willing to do the work, then you can achieve your target score. You've just got to realize what the work even is first!

I scored in the low 140's and aiming for 160 or higher. I'm willing to put in the work so please drop some gems on who you achieved yours!

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Can you break down your score in each section? The strategy for a 10 or 20 point increase in LG is different than that of LR or RC. Also are you getting these questions wrong in blind review too or just timed?

LG and RC are my weakest sections so far with -13 for LG and -17 for RC. I scored in the 140's. Aiming for 160 or higher.

#help can I get the link to the "for, since, because lesson"? thanks!

JY if you happen to read this, can we have another one of those RC webinar/sessions for those of us that couldn't take advantage of the previous one. Thanks!