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LSAT · valid inferences. Help greatly appreciated!
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Jan 31 2016

@ and @ I completely agree, 7Sage is soooo much better!

@, you are correct and thank you for correcting me. We cannot properly infer Most cars are not Sedans. I had "few" (3-4) on my mind which implies some are, most are not. So @, please disregard that portion of the explanation and sorry for the confusion.

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LSAT · PT26.S3.Q22 - whenever she considers voting
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bethflanders40
Monday, Sep 26 2016

@, JY talks about "but not otherwise" under the advanced biconditional section of the curriculum. Also, i usually think of the word "otherwise" as an "or else" condition. So on PT26.S3.Q22 I would summarize as:

It is acceptable for Kay to vote for a candidate who disagrees with her on one or more issues IF she disagrees with the other candidates on even more issues. Otherwise (or else) it is unacceptable to vote for that candidate.

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Monday, Sep 26 2016

@ i don't recall it either.

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General · Weird LGs
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bethflanders40
Monday, Sep 26 2016

After surviving the computer virus game, I would not skip any of the older or odd types of games. I spent most of my time studying the "norm" type LG's (for lack of better words) and reviewed from time to time the older games. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and i'm wishing i would have spent a little more time on those odd ones. We just never can predict what LSAC is going to throw our way, so better to be prepared.

I believe LSATKingsman found a game that is similar to the computer virus game, here's the link. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-6-section-4-game-4/

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LSAT · PT17.S3.Q20 - morton: in order to succeed
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Mar 26 2017

In this instance, I believe that "status" would mean the importance or strength of the counterexamples in the argument.

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LSAT · where in the CC are strengthening/weakening cause and effect arguments?
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bethflanders40
Wednesday, Apr 26 2017

It would be a couple of lessons after the causation theory. I believe it is called "4 possible explanations" and also the next lesson after that called "causation strategy."

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

@, but your question on the Misunderstanding the Meaning of the Word was a real section not experimental which i thought was one of your questions. Sorry if i misunderstood your question.

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General · LSAT going digital soon?
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

interesting, i didn't have any survey on my answer sheet.

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

Hi @, Dillion's been keeping a list of real/experimental on this thread

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/8821/september-2016-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords.

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General · Problem set
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

Never a dumb question. At the top of the screen select "Course" and then select the "Syllabus" from the pull down menu. Scroll down to the appropriate topic (ie Main Point). On the right hand side of the topic name is a small graphic that looks like arrows on a diagonal. Click on the arrows and the topic will expand. At the bottom of the expanded topic you will see a list of problem sets. Click on them and you will be able to view the problem sets via silent video.

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General · LSAT going digital soon?
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

This would really stink! I've used my tablet to do a few PT's and it was so awkward, especially when trying to erase or cross out.

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General · What to do
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bethflanders40
Sunday, Sep 25 2016

I just took the Sept LSAT as well and contemplating my next step. I'm going to take a few days off for sure and then jump back in to a degree. I too have heard of folks taking time off, coming back and have everything click. I think this would be a good course of action especially if you are feeling burned out.

For me personally, i'd hate to loose about 3.5 weeks of study time waiting for the scores only to find out i didn't (and probably didn't) do as I had expected. So on that note, i'll probably cut back a bit on the amount of time i'm studying each week so at least I keep everything fresh in my mind and keep my momentum going. Once the scores come out, I'll be able to determine my next step.

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LSAT · PT1.S4.Q21 - a society in which there are many crimes
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bethflanders40
Tuesday, Apr 25 2017

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Thank you so much Beth for the explanation. No I know how to read such a statement.

I didn't know that there was quite a distinction with some and many. I just treated them as equal when seeing them.

Many- 2-3

Some- at least one

I don't think you can actually quantify many. You can say definitely that MOST is >50%, but I don't think you will run into many (if any) instances where many is a quantifier that you need to use for subsets. Some others can likely chime in with better accuracy though.

I agree @ , I didn't think "many" could be a quantifier either, but it was the only thing I could think of that would distinguish answer choice D and E. I have seen some references where many is equivalent to several or few, meaning 2-3 but more so in mathematics versus logic. I wonder if this could be one of the differences between older and newer PT's. Hopefully some (or many) others will chime in :)

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Sep 24 2016

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@ Had 3 LR can someone confirm if Misunderstand the meaning of a word question was real or fake?

I believe that is real, i also had this question and only 2 LR sections.

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Sep 24 2016

@, yes all of those sound familiar for LR.

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LSAT · Official September LSAT Discussion Thread
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Sep 24 2016

computer virus game definitely a killer for me, i ended up on guessing. I was hoping it was experimental because I had two LG sections. Both the LR sections seemed odd, not a lot of abstract language which i guess can be a good thing. On the one RC section, i had the lacquer artist and the comparative on body building, one on legal regarding monetary damages, and i don't recall the 4th one at the moment.

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LSAT · PT52.S1.Q22 - moralist: a statement is wholly
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bethflanders40
Tuesday, Aug 23 2016

I'm not sure if i understand exactly what the question is but in my opinion I don't believe you need to determine sufficiency and necessary from the answer choice but instead look for what can be concluded (the judgments) given by the premises (principles) from the stimuli.

Perhaps this may help:

From the stimuli we are told that for a "statement" to be a whole truth statement it requires that the "statement" is both true AND without intended deception. Changing the stimuli statement to lawgic we have WT -> T & /ID. So the question is what can be concluded from this principle to make a valid argument (P(remise) -> C(onclusion).

From answer choice A we are told that Ted's statement is wholly truthful (the conclusion) and we are also told that Ted was not trying to deceive the investigator (the premise). So P(remise) -> C(onclusion) would result in /ID -> WT which is not a valid conclusion that can be drawn according to the stimuli.

In English rather than lawgic, my thought process is that to be able to conclude what constitutes a wholly truthful statement, the statement must be both true and made without deception. Compare this with answer choice A which tells me that Ted's statement is wholly truthful because its made without deception. But the answer choice is missing the other requirement of being "true". Because Ted's statement fails to meet both necessary conditions provided by the stimulus then it cannot be concluded that Ted's statement is "wholly truthful".

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LSAT · PT1.S4.Q21 - a society in which there are many crimes
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Apr 22 2017

I don't believe this to be a double negative situation. Here we have two separate thoughts. No laws is the first idea, the second idea no crimes. A negation as we know it or a contrapositive in LSAT splits two worlds in half, so a society with no laws versus a society with laws, then a society with no crimes versus a society with crimes.

A double negative is when two negative elements of a sentence are pushed to make a positive element. For example: (1) You cannot not go to the store meaning you can go to the store or (2) There is not nothing to worry about; meaning there is something to worry about.

Anyway, I put this into an If-then statement. If a society has no laws then a society has no crimes. /L -> /C; contrapositive C -> L which translated back to English would be If a society has crimes then a society has laws.

Answer Choice

(A) L->C; incorrect we cannot prove this according to the stimulus

(B) /C->/L; incorrect; cannot prove this either.

(A) and (B) are logical equivalents to each other but have the sufficient and necessary reversed from the stimulus.

(C) many L -> many C; incorrect again this has the sufficient and necessary confused according to the stimulus.

(D) some C -> some L; correct; this must be true according to the contrapositive and that the word some is vague which is easier to prove with some being equivalent to at least one. So if there is at least one crime then there must be at least one law.

(E) many C -> many L; incorrect; The contrapositive from the stimulus states that If a society has crimes then a society has laws. The answer choice is stating a many relationship. So thinking in numbers, how many crimes must there be to how many laws are needed for those crimes. We can't prove this because we don't know from the stimulus. There could be many crimes for only one law, therefore it does not have to be true.

I really struggled with answer choice (E) because of the some implying many rule; at first glance they both appeared to be the same answer until i started thinking numbers. Not sure if this was the correct approach. Perhaps they'll be some other feedback to clarify this.

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General · Is 7sage missing a question type in logical reasoning? Evaluate the Argument Questions
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Aug 20 2016

I could be wrong but i believe 7Sage has an example of one in the Miscellaneous Question Types of the curriculum, see PT19.4.5. It's my understanding that Evaluate the Argument Questions are very rare, something like .05%.

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General · Gray Day Sept 2016 (Predictions)
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bethflanders40
Wednesday, Oct 19 2016

Got the email, i think i was wishing it was different from seeing the score beforehand. Definitely no error there. Congrats to everyone who reached their goal!

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General · Gray Day Sept 2016 (Predictions)
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bethflanders40
Wednesday, Oct 19 2016

@ you can log into your LSAC account, click on the tab at the top labeled LSAT, on the pull down menu select LSAT status.

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General · Gray Day Sept 2016 (Predictions)
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bethflanders40
Wednesday, Oct 19 2016

i haven't received an email yet, but i logged into LSAC and i was able to retrieve the pdf docs. Looks like its back to the grind :(

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Is it possible to obtain a complete list of PrepTests needed for the Problem Sets that are used for the 7Sage Ultimate Course? It would save me some time because when I get to a Problem Set, I spend time checking to see if I've purchased the PT already, only to find out that I haven't. I've been using the silent videos but I would prefer to have a hard copy and I'm just realizing that the Problem Sets appear to be from PT's earlier than 36. So rather than me jumping ahead to the lessons to accumulate the PT's needed, I figured I would ask if a list is available. If not, then I would like to suggest that perhaps 7Sage consider making a list.

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General · Preptest with or without writing section?
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bethflanders40
Wednesday, May 10 2017

Speaking from experience, I never practiced the writing section and I did not finish in time. Quite embarrassing and good thing i'm retaking. I think what happened is I didn't have the stamina for another 35 minutes, a tough lesson learned. I've practiced three of them now and will continue to do so, now and then, as I refine my process. It takes me a good 5-10 mins just to get my thoughts together on which choice to support, how to support it with the information provided and then write up an outline. Then 10-15 minutes of actual writing. Any remainder of time I spend on proof reading.

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General · Is it crazy to take the exam without having done any studying in 2 months? And quick life advice...?
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bethflanders40
Saturday, Feb 06 2016

ditto to all the comments above but I must add that 30+ is definitely not too old, not even close to being too old. I started studying for the LSAT back in 2012 at age 48. In between life's twists and turns, I had to put it on the back burner -- for two years. I was finally able to make the commitment to studying for the LSAT toward the end of 2014 and again another life surprise and other commitments. So here I am at age 52 now, four years later, withdrew from last June and Oct and didn't bother attempting tomorrow because I'm not ready. I'm hoping to sit for June but if i'm not ready I have no problem waiting until I am. Basically what's the rush.

I think what keeps me going, beside the challenge of tackling this exam and knowing the importance of it, is an Uncle of mine who at age 78 graduated from Fordham Univ with a Masters in Psychology. He went ahead and open his own business as a psychologist after graduating, so age 81, and he is still going strong today. His advice to me on this endeavor and so simply stated, was do it!

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General · Idea/Request for the site.
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bethflanders40
Friday, Feb 05 2016

@ the export button can be found under the Resources - LSAT Analytics' menu. Then click on the Questions Table Tab and scroll to the very bottom of the screen. You can then copy and paste into excel.

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