I just took PT 88, did my blind review, now I want to foolproof the logic games using the digital tester. I don't see how to do that -- all I see is reviewing answers on the test, or creating a PDF of it.
#help
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Takeaways for today:
I took my test in Boston with many Harvard and Brown students -- very intimidating.
the stylus completely sucked. it was useless and i stopped using it after one question. using your finger isn't very accurate either. also using the eraser on the tablet doesn't work at all. this was all VERY frustrating. don't count on highlighting key words/sentences in RC. the precision of the stylus was awful.
my test center was highly unorganized. I arrived 2 hours early. the test didnt begin until at least one hour after "check in". the bathroom break was a nightmare- one bathroom to accommodate about 100+ others. arrived at 10am....left at 530pm.
I wasn't able to get more scrap paper. use it "judiciously"
instructed to tilt tablets at no more than a 30 degree angle. this sucked. by the end of the day my neck was killing me. also lots of glare.
be prepared for compulsive coughers/sneezers/people who are hard pencilers and erasers. it was extremely distracting.
I had lr, lr, lg, lr, rc. thankful there wasn't 2 lgs, although last lg was extremely hard.
I know it's too late, but presumably you might take again, so a few tips from someone who's taken twice:
sorry, no good tips here. stylus is trash and don't use it. (perhaps try a few pt's with zero highlighting?)
that sucks. always be last person in the check in line, and hit the bathroom shortly before you get to the front -- minimize your chances of needing it during first 3 sections.
do all your PT's and all your LG's with homemade scratch paper booklets: buy a ream of 11" x 17" paper for $15, take out a stack of 4 sheets, fold it in the middle, put in a couple staples in the spine (at slightly wonky angles because the stapler's not long enough). just use the 14 pages in the middle (on the real thing, the front and back covers have a bunch of printing on them). makes 125 scratch booklets.
plan your space usage for worst case scenario (an experimental LG section), and practice accordingly.
yeah, this sucks. what the hell -- LSAC announced they were getting rid of this rule in early Oct, then continued to enforce it in Oct and Nov sitting.
take your PT's somewhere loud, or with the 7sage proctor with the noises set way up. then get used to sticking your fingers in your ears while reading RC passages and LR stims.
if you feel like a weirdo sticking your fingers in your ears, it's easy to do it surreptitiously with your thumbs: support your head like this guy by putting your elbows on the table and the tips of your fingers on your forehead and your thumbs on your cheeks, then move the flat of your thumbs onto your earholes and press hard. it's really very effective.
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Go to Resources, then Problem Sets/QBank. Create a problem set using PT 88 LG. If you want to take the section multiple times just click on the section in your problem sets and hit the "+" icon in the bottom left once it pops up.
Thanks, that worked!
I had tried that earlier, but PT88 wasn't showing up. Turns out I had to switch the filter from "Unlocked LSATs" to "All LSATs". A bit odd, because I bought PT 88 yesterday and took the test, but for whatever reason the questions weren't showing up in my unlocked LSATs.
I just took PT 88, did my blind review, now I want to foolproof the logic games using the digital tester. I don't see how to do that -- all I see is reviewing answers on the test, or creating a PDF of it.
#help
I've been studying for the LSAT for about 3 weeks, mostly on logic games, probably put in about 80 hours so far. My very first look at any of these games, I went through a PT and got 19 or 20 right... but I did it without a time limit and spent 3 hours on the games.
After my practicing/studying, I've got it to where I'd guess I can go -1/-2 on the LG in a PT in about 60 minutes.
Obviously, 60 minutes doesn't cut it. Under real test conditions & timing, I'm looking at more like a -9 on the LG. I did have one PT where I got -5, but there was a lot of luck involved (I didn't have time for 6 or 7, and guessed A and got like 3 or 4 of these blind guesses correct).
Any thoughts on what's realistic to hope for in terms of improvement before the October test? I don't have time to foolproof hundreds (or even dozens) of games. It's been a while since a game stumped me, but I'm still not necessarily making the right calls on when to split & try to draw out tons of inferences vs when to forge ahead with what I've got and let it play out in the questions. And even when I do make the right call, I'm still probably taking 25% to 50% too long on everything.
I have a head for logic; on my last PT under test conditions I went -1 on RC and LR combined. But speed has just never been my thing.
Thanks.
Mine matched my calculation exactly. School doesn't calculate a GPA, but all the necessary detail isb right there.
Come on. Never?
Have you let yourself taste the fruits of your labors?
Like if you've foolproofed a ton of games as one-offs, but it's been a while since you last did a full section under exam conditions (35 minutes, no extra time), I think you'd be pleased at your progress. You might be slow on some but make up time on one, and your accuracy may have increased so even if you're guessing it's just on a few.
So that's my recommendation -- take a couple sets under true exam conditions, and then evaluate your progress. You can then foolproof them later. And don't work about saving too many for pure, full PT experiences.
You should definitely take the three digital PTs that LSAC has made available. Presumably, the controls mimic the ones used in the actual test, but I haven't taken an actual to confirm.
https://familiar.lsac.org/
I just noticed that PowerScore is selling digital versions of every PT for $12 a pop, but I haven't tried one yet so I don't know if their interface matches LSAC's. They have the June 2007 up for free.
https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/publications/digital-tests/tests.cfm
For mimicking exam conditions, I'm using a touch screen device, and have worked out how I'll position the screen relative to my scratch paper (screen up and to the right of the scratch paper; pen in my left hand, tapping/scrolling with my right hand).
I read that the exam scratch paper comes in a bound booklet, so I've been doing all my LG training in that format. I bought a ream of 8-1/2" x 17" paper, and kludged up booklets by taking a stack of 4 sheets, folding it in half and putting two staples* in along the fold. So from each stack I get a booklet with 16 pages of 8-1/2" x 11" size paper. I made up a big pile of em, and a nice side effect is that it keeps my PTs and LG attempts kind of organized.
I've determined my best approach for LG scratch work is to flip to an interior page of my scratch booklet, so I have a full two-page spread for each problem. It means I never have to flip between pages, even on questions where I've been very inefficient on my use of space. I start my work on the right-hand page, since that's closest to where I keep my screen, and only use the left-hand page if need extra space.
And I do all my scratch work with a pen, because I've heard that they give you a pen-stylus and you're not allowed to use pencils (but I'm not sure the latter part is true). I only use crappy pens, and I switch them up, because I have no idea what the LSAC-provided one is going to be like.
*The stapling doesn't work well, because of the physical constraints involved. I got so far as looking up special long-arm staplers on Amazon before I realized I was being overly obsessive and decided that slightly janky stapling on my homemade scratch paper booklets was just fine.
When the access is shut off, will we just lose the videos, or will we lose access to the entire explanation page (e.g. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-3-game-3/ ).
In particular, it would be cool if we could still at least see JY's recommended target time for each set.
Also, it would be super cool if someone would go through each video and transcribe JY's opening thoughts (e.g. "this is an easy one", "this is the hardest game in the set", etc.), and add that to the text of the page that we'll retain access to once the videos are locked down. But that's probably pretty labor intensive.
I listened to JY's BR call on this question ( https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/21699 ).
I don't get why he was so dismissive of answer choice C -- I would say it weakens the argument. An alternative explanation as to why the artist's face showed up in the painting (other than him painting it himself) serves to weaken the argument that painter of the painting has been determined. And that's what C provides -- his face may be there because the actual painter used him as a live model. I mean, he's an artist, completely reasonable that he would be in the milieu of artists in the area, and was asked by a friend to pose as a live model.
I agree that D more strongly weakens, but disagree with (what seemed to be) JY's position that C doesn't weaken at all.
Admin note: edited title mildly; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [brief description]"
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The Starter course includes all video explanations (including LG) for PTs 36-44, so you'll have those.
For LG videos from other PTs, they will not be included.
If I purchase a PT (e.g., PT87), will I have access to the video explanation for the LG on that PT?
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I had tried that earlier, but PT88 wasn't showing up. Turns out I had to switch the filter from "Unlocked LSATs" to "All LSATs". A bit odd, because I bought PT 88 yesterday and took the test, but for whatever reason the questions weren't showing up in my unlocked LSATs.
Thanks for giving us that extra info! I brought it to the team and turns out that was a bug - it should have shown up under "Unlocked." We have gone ahead and implemented a fix, which is live now. Please let me know if you still have this problem! Note: You may have to log in/log out and force refresh to "pick up" the fix.
Thanks Elaine! Your bug fix worked -- it's now showing up under my "Unlocked LSATs".
Best,
Joe