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Monday, Jul 25 2016

I'm also taking the test in September! Personally I've found that I generally need to finish the first 15 questions in 15 minutes on the LR section. Then, I do my best to finish the remaining questions before hitting the 30 minute mark. Only after 30 minutes is announced do I bubble in my answers, leaving me several minutes to go over questions that I was unsure of. One thing I've noticed for myself in the LR sections is that it's much better for me to only send a little bit of extra time on questions that I'm unsure of, and then go back to them at the end of the section after bubbling. This way, I can do the problem with fresh eyes, and usually I'll catch something that I missed the first time around. I also don't risk completely running out of time for the section using this method since I only come back to them at the end. I usually get -0 to -2 on my LR sections.

Of course this works best if you only tend to have a few questions you're unsure of each section; if you have more than a few then it's best to review the lessons and maybe do some drills!

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Monday, Jul 25 2016

I'm in a similar situation to you in terms of diagnostic (also 162) but I've managed to break past the low 170's and am scoring in the high 170's now in my PT's. I definitely didn't do much drilling at all during my studying, but I've been doing PT's nearly every morning, and it's definitely helped. After every PT I look over answers I'm unsure of or got wrong in the LR and RC sections in the Manhattan forums, and watch 7Sage videos for Logic Games answers.

Unless you've taken a ton of PT's already I don't think you need to worry about burning through them. I've taken 8 PT's so far and I have more than enough to take one almost every day until the September test.

Also, take a look at the difficulty of the LR/RC passages in the tests that you do if you haven't already. You might have done well on your diagnostic relative to other tests because the passage difficulty happened to be lower. It also matters if you're taking an older or a newer test (newer tests tend to have more difficult LR/RC sections).

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ Haha I'm glad you guys found it helpful, let me know if you have any more questions!

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ @ @ @ @ Thank you all!! :D

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ Thank you!! I read a lot of these posts by high-scorers while I was studying, so I hoped this would be helpful for other people in the same position!

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ Thanks! :D

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

I'm on #teamproductionbrewery

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@.A Hey Abster, I studied very intensely for 1.5 to 2 months (it was over the summer, so I would study for most of the day), then for the last month before the LSAT I did 4 to 5 preptests a week. For most people obviously I would recommend not doing what I did and spreading it out more, but knowing my own personality I have a much better chance sticking to my study schedule if I concentrate it in a short period. For LR and RC, I highly recommend the LSAT Trainer, the Manhattan LSAT Forums for explanations on answers you get wrong, and also check out my advice in my reply to dennisgerrard. Best of luck on your LSAT journey!

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

@ thank you so much, not the answer I wanted but at least I know now! Pretty sure I got that one wrong :(

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ @ Thank you!!

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ I don't have any special advice, but I did follow the advice of people from TLS and 7sage forums!

For LR, definitely do blind review, and try to explain why each wrong answer choice is 100% wrong. I honestly didn't BR as much as I should have, but the few times I did do it, it helped immensely. Also, get really good at knowing when answer choices are irrelevant; it will save you tons of time. Finally, timing: I tried to do the first 15 questions in 15 minutes, and eventually I could do the first 20 in 20 minutes, while marking questions I was unsure about. You have to find a good pace for yourself so you have enough time to return to hard questions at the end of the section, while not messing up on the easy questions.

For RC, as you read, make sure you understand most of what you're reading. I always underlined and circled the passages as I read, not because the markings did anything, but just to make sure I was actually logically processing every sentence. As JY put it, get a "low-res" version of the passage at the minimum, and understand every major argument, but aim for "hi-res", where you retain some of the details too. But my BEST advice that helped me the most on RC is to get really good at eliminating answer choices. What got me to -0 to -1 on RC is to get into the habit of identifying the most dubious part of every answer choice. For example, words like "none" or "all", definitive language like "will" or "is", or really strong adjectives. Usually the least dubious/least out of scope choice is your best bet!

Sorry this was so long, hope it helps though!

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

Thanks @ !!

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

@ @

I had the same setup! I definitely had the same section 1 and section 5 LR, but I'm pretty sure I had a different section 3. I think that was the experimental one.

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

Does anyone who had 2 LR sections remember a question about a school taking a survey with students who wanted to change to a new dining service? I had 3 LR sections and really want to know if that one was experimental.

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

I feel really good about LG too. RC felt OK; like an average RC section to me, with one or two questions I wasn't sure on, but that's typical for me. I had three LR sections too. There wasn't a single section I felt 100% confident on. There were one or two questions in each section that I just felt like I didn't do right. Fingers crossed that my mistakes were concentrated in the experimental section...the wait is the real struggle :(

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@ @ @.rizeq Thank you!! :D

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Wednesday, Jan 04 2017

@.E.D Thanks!! I definitely think the LSAC is trying to re-introduce less predictable LG games now, starting with the Virus Game. I found most of the PT's in the 60's and 70's before that point very easy by comparison. Personally, I think the early LG's are still the most unusual (PT 1-40). The December LSAT LG was a breeze for me because I had taken so many of those early LG's, and became used to being surprised. Practicing early LG's is my best advice for tackling unusual games. Also, JY had some great advice; usually you mess up in these games because you panic. The games aren't actually more difficult, they're just more unusual. So if you stay calm and just do what you always do, going through the rules and making inferences, you'll be fine.

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

This post was much needed. Going to celebrate by doing nothing tonight, then time to get cracking on those apps.

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Sunday, Dec 04 2016

My advice: do the LG sections in the old tests; all of them! PT 1-40, especially. That's how I started learning LG, and every section I would get something bizarre. All of the tests in the 60's and 70's were a breeze in comparison (including the December LG section I just took this morning :D)

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Tuesday, Jan 03 2017

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177, thank you 7sage!

This was my first LSAT, my goal was 175, I ended up getting 177, and I am beyond happy! I couldn't have done it without 7sage's LG guides.

For people who are curious, my diagnostic was somewhere around 162-166, timed. My worst section at first by far was LG.

I studied intensely around 1.5 to 2 months, took a 1 month break, then spent 1 month doing a few practice tests a week. Prior to the test, my PT score average was around 175.

To study, I used the LSAT Trainer and 7sage for LG. I later also bought ACE The LSAT Logic Games book for practice (I didn't use the techniques, I just did the games for warmup and practice). I started with the LSAT Trainer techniques, then changed my LG techniques to 7sage's after.

Also, the Blind Review sessions hosted by JY are invaluable. Make sure you go to those for at least one practice test; I went to almost all the sessions for PT 78, and it helped so much even though it was right before the actual test date. I didn't realize how little I understood about each answer choice until I had to explain it to other people.

Thanks again 7sage, you guys are the best, and you probably helped me get into my dream law school!

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