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If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.

If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.

If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.

I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.

Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.

So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.

Ya and to piggyback off that for those of us who haven't taken a test yet - do you think a high GRE score will have the same "saving" effect as a high LSAT score? Like you know how a super high LSAT can trump your GPA significantly ... that's the effect I'm wondering about

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Wow, this is the school I am aiming for. Now my question is, the LSAT score determines potential scholarship money, will the GRE score determine that as well? ?

Yeah, there definitely seems to be a lot of question marks as of now. I assume that such scores will be considered in terms of percentile. But I also came across an article that quoted an admissions consultant, who reported that schools may not have to report GRE scores over a 3.87 GPA threshold under current guidelines.

https://gre.economist.com/gre-advice/graduate-school-admissions/which-exam-take/gre-vs-lsat-which-exam-should-you-apply-harvard-law

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If you take the LSAT under current rules, it's the score that must be reported to the ABA.

If you have a GRE and an LSAT only the LSAT is considered.

If you only have a GRE and No LSAT they take the GRE score.

I asked for clarification on this yesterday with Dave K and taking the GRE if youn already have an LSAT will do nothing for you.

Also see that a few of the schools saying they take the GRE have conditions beyond the no LSAT. Some require that you're applying to a Dual Enrollment program.

So if you haven't taken the LSAT, you could try to take the GRE first and see how you perform, correct? I'm wondering if since you can make a decision on whether or not to report your GRE score, that route might be ideal for individuals who are not too deep into LSAT prep yet. Whereas if you had taken the LSAT first, that score is automatically considered.

I've read a little bit about the GRE Score Choice policy, which allows candidates to select which schools to report their scores to. Thus, wouldn't individuals who have yet to sit for either the GRE or the LSAT, be able to take a GRE, see what they score, and then decide whether or not to even report it? Or, would these schools openly stating that they will consider all GRE/LSAT scores taken over the previous five years holistically, mean that students will be forced to report every score?

https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/about/scoreselect/

I'd love to be kept in the loop about this group if at all possible.

When would you like to begin our study group meetings? I'm good to start in November.

What day(s) of the week/time(s) work best for you? (Please include your time zone)

I can meet all week after October 20th in US Central time zone. However, starting in January, I'll be moving to Southeast Asia for ten months so will adjust my studies accordingly.

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Tough call. Like Alex said, it seems like you're really smart and the sky is the limit for you. I think you could and should shoot for 170+ on the LSAT, and that will probably take several months. I would probably start studying at a sustainable pace and see if you can find a way to take the June test.

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With that LSAT score you should be aiming for a top school such as Harvard, Stanford, Yale, or a top T6 school with $$$. A Fulbright is an incredibly prestigious soft that will help for admissions.

All that to say, you don't want to waste such an amazing GPA/soft by rushing to take the LSAT.

It's nearly impossible to predict how fast someone will improve since everyone improves as different speeds. My advice would be to work on completing the core curriculum and then take a PT once you've finished and evaluate where you are. I've seen people improve 10 points in 2 months while others take 6 months for the same improvement.

The good news is that 7Sage and The LSAT Trainer are great study resources and if you put in the time, you'll be certain to see improvements.

Good luck!

Thank you both so much for the help! I guess I was just torn because I didn't know if it'd be worth it to try to get a 160+ score down in December and then retake later on. But I guess I really shouldn't rush into it. I was starting to get so stressed thinking about how many practice tests I would've had to do leading up to December.

My other concern was also having to pick it up again with some time off and whether or not I would've been wasting this past month or so of work I've put in. But I guess it's different with a skills-based test like this.